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Pokémon Go |OT 3| "No Officer, I'm a Passenger"
- Thread starter spyroflame0487
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It's hard to be too heart-broken considering that there really isn't much to do with your awesome mons once you have them.
Hopefully there is more extensive battling/gym/raid stuff incoming.
Good, i said they should do it ages ago.
Hope it's individual per Pokemon. So like only 1 max Blissey, but like 3 max Gyarados. etc. Good to have added either way
I would sweat too if I had 14 Gyarados. 😂
Icyflamez96
Member
Which will still suck if they don't balance stats when that update drops.
Doesn't seem like it since the new parameter is MAXSAMEPOKEMONATFORT, not any reference to specific Pokemon. But I could be wrong.
hahahaha.
LucidMomentum
Member
One Charmander away from a Charizard.
If I want a near perfect one it'll be another 30 or so candies but eh.
That leaves Nidoqueen and Dragonite for the Gen 1 dex...
If I want a near perfect one it'll be another 30 or so candies but eh.
That leaves Nidoqueen and Dragonite for the Gen 1 dex...
So instead of actually fixing the balance issues in the game, they are just banning the overpowered Pokemon from over-populating towers? That's such a lazy band-aid for poor game design.
If you want a greater variety of Pokemon on towers, how about giving us more than a dozen Pokemon that can go over 2500 CP? How about giving Blissey/Snorlax some actual kind of nerf or disadvantage? There's no reason they should have three times the HP of any other mon, and yet have no intrinsic weaknesses to offset the huge advantage they're given.
All that said, I am looking forward to fighting towers that aren't Snorlax x 4, Blissey x 3, Dragonite x 3. I have to image they'll at least allow 2 of the same species on a tower though, which means things will still be pretty rough. Snorlax and Blissey are basically the same Pokemon at this point......so limiting to anything other than 1 slot each would be too mcuh.
Newsflash: some pokemon are better than others
Newsflash: Nobody said they should all be equally good.
You can't have variety if there's only like 6-8 viable tower defenders. And if two of those defending types are massively better than all the rest, then that breaks things even further. Other pokemon need to be buffed up so they can be competitive.....or towers need to be structured in such a way that rewards more than pure CP.
Icyflamez96
Member
Or both.
Honestly just having the 2400-3000+ CP range be more easily accessible to more fully evolved mons would greatly increase gym variety with this current system. Though of course, more than just that needs editing for things to be much better.
A more rewarding interpreation of your idea that also brings in mechanics from mainline pokemon games is that different slots will have different weather conditions that boost/nerf attacks.
For example A slot could have sunny weather, which would result in a boost for fire attacks, weaken water attacks and increase the speed of solarbeam.
SirBukkake
Member
Apparently, there's also speculation on an Ingress mechanic that may apply to the Gym updatea Pokemon in a gym will "Degrade" over time; it's up to you and/or your teammates to "recharge" your pokemon via a berry. Y'all can speculate that would mean.
I really like Firemind's idea of feeding berries to stay up on the ladder though.
Just give us PvP with a Battle Rating and have that BR be a basis of how far up the ladder your pokemon will be in a gym.
I really like Firemind's idea of feeding berries to stay up on the ladder though.
Just give us PvP with a Battle Rating and have that BR be a basis of how far up the ladder your pokemon will be in a gym.
All that sounded so dumb and convoluted. I hate that Niantic has a financial incentive to make sure gyms are constantly being upended. I wish they would just remove Gold Coins as a reward for Gym memberships. The real reward is the dust anyway.
If they are intent on shaking things up, why not just have gyms automatically flip after a week or something?
Icyflamez96
Member
That's even worse.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
Fuck out of here with that lol. I sure as shit ain't buying all my Gold.
Well I don't know what the solution should be, but making people feed consumables to their gyms sounds like garbage. I would rather have gyms flip on predictable intervals than have to drive out to them every other day and give them items.
By removing gold as a reward for Gym players, you remove Niantic's financial incentive to make gyms unstable. I would rather collect 5000 dust everyday from stable gyms than I would want to bust ass to try and keep up with gyms that flip all the time. I like getting gold from gyms obviously, but not if that makes it more difficult for my team to hold down their gyms.
Icyflamez96
Member
Well it depends on how long the intervals are for both options. I'd rather gyms start decaying after a week (meaning you have to feed them to keep it strong) as opposed to a gym literally just "flipping" after a week.
At this point, I think you can assume that gyms will start flipping sooner rather than later. If it takes a week or two before they start to degrade, then nothing will ever flip. Niantic's goal is more frequent flips, so I imagine that degradation will set in pretty fast.
SiegfriedFM
Member
Anyone else having problems logging in? PTC in Europe. It doesn't even look like it's trying.
Russian YouTuber convicted for playing Pokémon Go in church
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...er-convicted-playing-church-ruslan-sokolovsky
In Russia, Pokemon catch you.
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...er-convicted-playing-church-ruslan-sokolovsky
In Russia, Pokemon catch you.
LucidMomentum
Member
Part of me doesn't mind that much as Tyranitar and Blissey are the big Meta killers right now, but at the same time if I manage to get the extra 25 or so candies I need by the time I do my next evolve spree then yeah I'll evolve my slightly better IV Charmander up to Charizard instead of my Charmeleon.
With that being said, since I'm on the coast for work and am missing my usual PoGo walks with friends, I decided to check and see what is on the Silph Road Atlas for the area for the Charmander, Nidoran-F, and Dratini I need to finish the Gen I Dex.
Within a 45 minute drive there's a Charmander nest, a Nidoran-F nest, and apparently a DRAGONITE spawn nest as of the last migration.
The Dragonite one sounds suspect as hell but I spend two hours walking with friends on Thursday so what's a half hour drive to go check it out?
If I'm lucky I'll be able to finish the Dex today, sans legendaries and regional exclusives.
Icyflamez96
Member
Got mad lucky this morning and caught a high level, high IV Charmander
The 5000 dust you get on 10 gyms is the equivalent of catching 50 Pokemon, every single day. You're saving a pretty massive amount of time and effort.
The 100 gold coins you from gyms are never really enough to feed a steady habit of incubator use.....it's just a meager bonus (especially once you consider that like 80% of eggs hatched are absolute gargage duds). And you can always just buy some Gold if you need it. Stardust doesn't come from anywhere but gameplay, so being given that huge shortcut is arguably way more important.
Gold only seems valuable if you're one of those people that has a massive hangup about giving money to a F2P app. I've only bought Gold a few times for special events, and while the Gold I get from gyms is nice it's not really enough to do much of anything.
IXI FalcoN
Member
*Sees level 7 gym, checks the pokemon in it*
Snorlax, Blissey, Snorlax on bottom 3.
Don't be those guys.
Snorlax, Blissey, Snorlax on bottom 3.
Don't be those guys.
I definitely agree that they need to give out more coins in general, but to think that a once-a-day collection of a few thousand dust is more reliable than the almost limitless supply you can get from just catching Pokemon doesn't make much sense to me. Most people aren't going to realistically have 10 gyms every day, and if you do, you probably play the game enough that stardust isn't really a problem for you.
I have 11 gyms and have had them for quite some time. Not a lot of maintenance is necessary around here -- most teams have their territories and keep to them. Everyone has figured out the Prisoner's Dilemma.
The dust I get from gyms is important precisely because I don't want to spend my time catching gutter trash Pokémon just because I need dust. While I wouldn't say I have a problem with dust, I certainly need more than I have most of the time. I'd love to level all my best attackers everything to max, but t gets real expensive.
Conversely put, if the average player can't hold down more than a handful of gyms reliably, what good is the Gold they earn? Just for getting an incubator every 4 days?
Bedameister
Member
So what about the promo code window in the shop? That's new right?
Benzychenz
Member
Uhhh, yeah? Incubators are a hot commodity, and the best source of high IV Pokemon.
Anyway, just woke up and retook my turf before cashing in. Have 9 gyms currently.
Funnily, every gym was already back to Valor and I just had to power up a few.
SiegfriedFM
Member
Still can't login with PTC, and I can't even reach the site club.pokemon.com! Standard site works fine.
Incubators produce Pokemon with above-average IVs, but by and large they also turn out Pokemon that aren't really viable as tower defenders or attackers. Nobody really cares about hatching a Mantine with great IVs. Someone generating 50 Gold per day from gyms will get an extra 6-7 hatches per week depending how mow much they are willing to walk, but it doesn't really matter that much since most hatches are garbage.
I totally like and enjoy incubators, but to see any big advantage from them means you have to buy tons of them simultaneously. You need to be able to walk 2-5K and have the distance count towards hatching at least a half-dozen eggs. Being drip fed 50 Gold per day doesn't really allow you to do that.
Benzychenz
Member
I mean, you must walk a lot if 'an extra 6-7 hatches a week' is minor to you. I'd hatch 1-2 a week from my infinite incubator so the extras I get from gym coins are amazing to me.
And yeah, due to not playing much I generally can have a few incubators going at once.
(To be fair right now I'm only using my infinite as I'm working on hitting 1000 storage for items and Pokemon).
Like, the stardust from gyms in great and all, but you get stardust from other things, the coins you get from gyms are the only coins you get (without spending $$$).
