Camel Master
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You're missing the point. It's about adding diversity, not taking away from already limited representations.
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How would you react to a Metroid reboot w/ a black Samus
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You're missing the point. It's about adding diversity, not taking away from already limited representations.
DeceptiveAlarm
Gold Member
I would look at this like Spiderman. I have no problem with Miles being Spiderman but don't make Peter Parker black.
The Horror the horror
Banned
Another "keep it separate but equal" proposal.
Milly Osworth
Member
Changing the ethnicity of an existing character makes 0 sense.
RowdyReverb
Member
Keep her in the suit. She can be whatever race the player imagines she is.
LordKasual
Banned
The Metroid Universe has so much space for new character possibilities that trying to string the character to Samus Aran herself is just a massive waste IMO.
Chances are, a character that isn't Samus won't even be able to do the same things that Samus can, without the Chozo blood or Varia Suit. But that's fine, because Hunters / Prime 3 was full of extremely capable hunters on nearly equal footing with Samus.
The Prime series was so great because it was able to introduce completely new things and still feel like you were playing Metroid. Metroid has not even come close to reaching the point where it needs to start rebooting itself. It can just branch out in a different way.
You don't have any clue what that phrase means, do you. You cant just use phrases like that completely out of context and expect it to keep its meaning.
Even entertaining this nonsense, how on earth would a "Metroid" game featuring a black protagonist be considered separate?
I have zero idea how you can come to that conclusion from that post.
As for the op, preferably a new character leading would be interesting to see.
Maybe you can have it be set in the far future where samus is seen as more of an undying legend whose name gets passed down or used by people around the cosmos or something.
Just altering a character in a reboot feels lazy to me. A sort of soft reboot idea works better in my mind.
ShironRedshift
Member
Indifferent. It would certainly be great to have more black characters, and in particular black women. But at the same time, it doesn't mean too much if she'll just be stuck in the Power Suit regardless. But I definitely wouldn't mind at all.
Bloodporne
Member
Ultimately, this thread makes me want to drop every other game I'm playing currently and run through every glorious Metroid game I own for the tenth time.
Ruud_Luiten
Member
Make her purple with six legs I don't care🖕🏿. Just retain the gameplay....
If people want to change the gameplay... just ask for a new IP, ok? Making boxes based on skin color is the most racist thing I ever heard. It's all about gameplay; color won't change anything.
If people want to change the gameplay... just ask for a new IP, ok? Making boxes based on skin color is the most racist thing I ever heard. It's all about gameplay; color won't change anything.
Do you think a skin tone swap of a character who spends 99% of the game alone and inside a metal suit really tackles the issues of representation in games?
allenpergallon
Member
Just wait for the Sylux reveal.
Ultimately, this thread makes me want to drop every other game I'm playing currently and run through every glorious Metroid game I own for the tenth time.
lol same here.
Unnecessary reboots and redesigns already annoy me enough as it is, and the idea of race-swapping Metroid's most iconic character for the sake of shoehorning in diversity sounds even less appealing. Representation in games doesn't need to come at the expense of changing characters that people already like the way they are. I'm not the kind of guy who's particularly interested in seeing my skin color represented in games anyway, but if given the choice I'd much rather see Nintendo introduce more black/biracial characters into their games than just slap some brown skin on Mario and call it a day.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
I feel like, you see so little of Samus' face that I honestly couldn't identify with her any more than you told me she was black.
At the same time, for that same reason I feel like if you care if they changed her race you've got some issues with non-white folks.
So yeah, make her black if you want.
At the same time, for that same reason I feel like if you care if they changed her race you've got some issues with non-white folks.
So yeah, make her black if you want.
RowdyReverb
Member
If they did make her black, they should wait until you beat the game to reveal it. Like when you find out she's a woman after you complete the first game
That shit would get spoiled so hard though
That shit would get spoiled so hard though
Coinspinner
Member
What time did I get and what was my item percentage?
This matters a LOT in terms of what my reaction would be.
This matters a LOT in terms of what my reaction would be.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I see no point.
If she was black at the start, then cool with me.
I don't have any problem with cultural variety in games as it's only a good thing but this sounds forced.
I don't think that's the point at all of art if you consider games to be artistic vision.
If she was black at the start, then cool with me.
I don't have any problem with cultural variety in games as it's only a good thing but this sounds forced.
I don't think that's the point at all of art if you consider games to be artistic vision.
gioGAF
Member
I don't get this question. Samus is an established character, if you want a character with a different background / ethnicity in a future game, why don't you just call them by their own name and be done with it?
This is a trend in comic books which I think is lame and is done solely for retaining the "name brand" to keep peddling their junk. The latest guy is not Spider-Man, he is a new version, why doesn't he have his own identity?
I don't have a problem with different backgrounds for characters, just call them by their own name.
This is a trend in comic books which I think is lame and is done solely for retaining the "name brand" to keep peddling their junk. The latest guy is not Spider-Man, he is a new version, why doesn't he have his own identity?
I don't have a problem with different backgrounds for characters, just call them by their own name.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
I'd feel no different to how I do now?
I hate to be that guy but:
Vs everyone else:
Nintendo should definitely start creating more characters of different races/ color, and it seems like there starting to do that with ARMS and Splatoon, but it's not like they aren't diverse. Nintendo characters and IP's are like the definition of video games.
Ans it still makes no sense in the op
AdventureRacing
Member
The colour of her skin has nothing to do with what makes the games fun so I don't really care. At the same time I'd probably just rather they create new characters for diversity than alter old ones.
ScientificPizza
Banned
They have a bunch of white people and then animals and monsters and shit. that's not the kind of diversity people are talking about
A black samus would be cool, idk. It'd be fun just to see people try to bend over backwards to try and argue why she *needs* to be white even though she absolutely doesn't at all
tf did that Jigglypuff art come from?
LegendofLex
Member
At the same time, if the Metroid brand decided to reintroduce itself, what would be wrong with the Samus character (defined by the suit + being a female heroine + her core personality and backstory) remaining intact, just with a new look under the suit?
I'd like Samus and the skillset/armor suit that comes with her to remain as-is in future Metroid games, but I don't see why Nintendo couldn't reboot the character to not be Bounty Hunter Barbie.
omgwtfbentime
Member
I'd be thrilled, Nintendo needs more character diversity (say that as a huge Nintendo fan) and they've kind of dropped the ball with characterizing Samus outside of the Prime games so assuming they were going for a slightly more "character focused" Metroid I think it'd be best to detach players from that original series
Doubt they'll do it and it'd be met with tons of backlash tho because gaming culture fucking sucks.
Doubt they'll do it and it'd be met with tons of backlash tho because gaming culture fucking sucks.
OR...! What if YOU are the character. You can spend hours on a character customization screen just to see it parts of your character at the very end!
An unnecessary change that I feel messes with the characters identity. Samus has had changes to her design in the past, like so with Other M, and was received poorly, so another, far more drastic change is not something that would sit well with me.
Samus IS a white, blonde-haired woman, whether you think that design is necessarily appealing, or original or whatever.
Like has been suggested quite repeatedly, if you want a black lead, or any other race, make a new character. It leaves the original character and design alone, while also satisfying those that are looking for some diversity.
Also the thought that someone would be introduced a new black Samus, maybe go look into the history of this really cool character and find that she was originally derived from an Iconic white character, that doesn't leave a good taste in my mouth.
Samus IS a white, blonde-haired woman, whether you think that design is necessarily appealing, or original or whatever.
Like has been suggested quite repeatedly, if you want a black lead, or any other race, make a new character. It leaves the original character and design alone, while also satisfying those that are looking for some diversity.
Also the thought that someone would be introduced a new black Samus, maybe go look into the history of this really cool character and find that she was originally derived from an Iconic white character, that doesn't leave a good taste in my mouth.
Im torn on this. I have always imagined MasterCheif looking like Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson and no amount of cannon Microsoft art that looks like a poor man's Mark Vanderloo is going to change that.
I'm also open to race changing for properties when i think it would add something interesting to the story. Ie make Peter Parker Asian American or Superman/Supergirl Black.
Yet with Samus, i would like to keep her the same. I think this is because i have always felt Nintendo's big 3 IP (Mario, Link and Samus are basically Nintendo's version of Superman, Batman and Wonderwoman) have a reasonable amount of diversity inbuilt. Mario is Medeteranian Italian and they typical have Olive Skin. Link is Fantasy Japanese and Samus is caucasian. If Nintendo is going to focus on becoming more diverse they have better options.
For instance why not make an Impa (typically presented as dark skinned) action game, or further promote Elma an awesome scifi action hero who just happens to be a dark skinned woman. Additionally Nintendo could make a new IP built from the ground up with a great dark skinned protagonist of either gender. (although topping Elma will be tough)
Nintendo games have more dark skinned female representation then male representation as of right now. So if making a new IP either gender would be on the table.
I'm also open to race changing for properties when i think it would add something interesting to the story. Ie make Peter Parker Asian American or Superman/Supergirl Black.
Yet with Samus, i would like to keep her the same. I think this is because i have always felt Nintendo's big 3 IP (Mario, Link and Samus are basically Nintendo's version of Superman, Batman and Wonderwoman) have a reasonable amount of diversity inbuilt. Mario is Medeteranian Italian and they typical have Olive Skin. Link is Fantasy Japanese and Samus is caucasian. If Nintendo is going to focus on becoming more diverse they have better options.
For instance why not make an Impa (typically presented as dark skinned) action game, or further promote Elma an awesome scifi action hero who just happens to be a dark skinned woman. Additionally Nintendo could make a new IP built from the ground up with a great dark skinned protagonist of either gender. (although topping Elma will be tough)
Nintendo games have more dark skinned female representation then male representation as of right now. So if making a new IP either gender would be on the table.
PixelatedBookake
Junior Member
I feel if Samus handed off her title/suit to a black woman ala Dread Pirate Roberts I would fuck with that.
LegendofLex
Member
I mean... Samus is a player-character in a videogame, most recognized by a suit that masks not only her race but her gender as well.
If Nintendo decided to reboot the series, it wouldn't be out of character for Samus to not look the way people expected her to because this is how the character's identity as female was established in the first place.
gioGAF
Member
Nothing really, I am just partial to having a character I enjoy remain the character I am familiar with. I don't have a problem with a new character taking over the game, I would just prefer that character to be its own thing, rather than a palette swap of the already established character for the sake of "diversity".
Chuck Norris
Banned
How old is that second image now?
I don't think it really reflects the current state of diversity
NoblesseOblige
Banned
Would think it pretty neato and I'd revel in the meltdown from thousands of angry adult-children.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
why not? could be nothing, could be cool. open either way.
ronaldthump
Member
why would they reboot it with a black character instead of introducing a new one?
Kageshinzo
Member
Why make Samus black? Why not create a totally new black character and then have her get into the suit? Hell, they can change the story so that Samus retires from bounty hunting and names the black character her successor and gives her the original suit. That'd make the Metroid mythos much more interesting.
If people really want to promote diversity, make an original character and build them into iconic ones. Look at Miles Morales (Spider-Man) and Jaime Reyes (Blue Beetle). They've become popular characters in their own right and they managed to get out of the shadow of the costumes their predecessors made.
Making Samus black is just like saying, "We don't have the confidence to really create a compelling minority character. So here's Samus, except we made her black. Yay diversity!"
If people really want to promote diversity, make an original character and build them into iconic ones. Look at Miles Morales (Spider-Man) and Jaime Reyes (Blue Beetle). They've become popular characters in their own right and they managed to get out of the shadow of the costumes their predecessors made.
Making Samus black is just like saying, "We don't have the confidence to really create a compelling minority character. So here's Samus, except we made her black. Yay diversity!"
I know. It's not like all there IP's are the generic badass white guy that everyone else seems to do. Nintendo seems to be getting better. We just got these this year:
It's a step in the right direction.