Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
UE4 is no UE3, that's for sure.
It is much more flexible and allows for many genres. Half the UE4 games out there I couldn't tell unless you told me.
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Unreal Engine 4.16 released, support for Switch now fully-featured, XB1 now on DX12
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UE4 is no UE3, that's for sure.
It is much more flexible and allows for many genres. Half the UE4 games out there I couldn't tell unless you told me.
Patrick S.
Banned
Could this mean better performance on Xbone?
freeofgreed
Member
Yeah no doubt. I was just confused why he said Fighting games and UE4 don't mix when arguably the 2 biggest fighting game franchises are using it.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Yup, If you told me Tekken 7 was using the same engine as Nier Automata, Kingdom Hearts 3, Final Fantasy VII remake AND Snake Pass I would have laughed and walked away because they look so different.
The fact that DX12 is the default renderer should be a nice indication that it's mature enough on Xbox to deliver nice performance (better than DX11.3)... I don't think it makes a whole lot of difference but for sure some small "%" improvements will be there...
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
What's the benefit of DX12 on the Xbox? Shouldnt it be using a low level API already being a console. I guess it can make PC coding and porting back and forth even easier?
Shifty
Member
I've not done enough testing to comment on size yet, but I'm 90% sure that they bevelled the edges a bit.
The Real Napsta
Member
What
Thats not how porting or devoleping works
copelandmaster
Member
Nier:A uses Platinum Games's in-house engine.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Zombiegoast may be referring to the longer-than-usual loading times of SFV (though lessened to a degree for online matches as of the CFN update) & supposedly Tekken 7 (can't pass final judgement on this until the game launches).
Sectorseven
Member
Do UE4 games currently in development automatically get updated and take advantage of the new features?
That's what I thought. It's got that "I'm evolved From Bayonetta" look and feel.
Engine support means that the compiler or more simply, as the words state, that the engine on it can run, this has on the first base nothing to do with games
You also dont need be technological about it, its common sense. If your logic worked, you basicly saying something like this: My patato PC can run Unreal Engine 4 Games, for example The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, which is a (very good) walking simulator, so it must also run eve valkyrie with more then 10 fps (sadly it cant). A Engine does not magicly change processing power
So no this has nothing to do with "excuses" of third partys, which are still legit when it comes to porting.
but still its nice that its supported tho, more oppurtintys and less hassle for devs
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Good explanation, you don't need to be an ASSHOLE about it. You could explain without being a rude ass jerk.
No. In my experience upgrades tend to go smoothly but it still takes effort.
LizardKing
Member
They are using it in house.
https://www.polygon.com/2017/2/7/14533324/nintendo-switch-unreal-engine-miyamoto
Computer architecture and multiplatform software is a complex topic. Showing how your logic was inaccurate is a far easier way to show you why it doesn't work like you think it does than trying to explain the ins and outs. Maybe you should stop the name-calling and appreciate that someone bothered to attempt to explain to you at all.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
Does it mean that any game built under Unreal Engine 4 can actually run on the Switch with the proper downgrades in place?
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
You can explain without being rude, this forum was considered the best because we can have discussion without being jerks to each other.
Times are a changing, I will see myself out of this thread.
Fixed
Also you guys are biting that troll post from the previous page, gotta stop falling for that lol.
do you know how game engines work...
Both engines are flexible and "allow for many genres." What do you think an engine does, exactly?
ChrisInCali
Member
I sure hope so. Also, enjoy being flamed for mistaking "indie" games as "mobile" games.
Nights Owl
Member
The person was perfectly polite. Simply saying "If your logic worked" doesn't make someone condescending, they're providing you with an example of why your thought process is incorrect. There's no reason to throw a fit and call someone an asshole because you didn't understand something and they took the time to explain it to you.
They didn't insult you at all.
The only person being rude in this instance is you.
Lol what a post...
So you jump into a thread about a highly technical topic, ignorantly posts about potential greed/laziness/incompetence of developers, then gets a well formulated lesson on how things really are; and then you spout in caps about HIM/HER being an asshole? Jesus man.
You can see the effects of first-class engine support in the sheer number of indie games that got Wii U and Vita versions. Heck, even Windows Phone still gets a random game once in a while because it takes so little work if you already have a mobile Unity game.
Cutting down graphics and effects is much more palatable than having to port an entire game engine to a different platform. It also allows developers to quickly evaluate if a port is viable or not with relatively little effort.
Anyway, UE4 games nearing release are most likely still using old UE4 versions (Epic themselves does not recommend updating projects in advanced development unless absolutely necessary), so it will take a while until we see UE 4.16 games on Switch. Probably not that much, because Sony is going to start requiring PS4 SDK 4.5 pretty soon and UE 4.15 only supports SDK 4.0.
Dark Cloud
Member
"Mistaking" indie for mobiles. I guess you're two peas in the same pod lol.
James Scott
Banned
I imagine any game can run on Switch with the proper downgrades...just depends if the investment needed for those downgrades would be worth it
thesaucetastic
Unconfirmed Member
Unreal is shaping up to be the most accessible engine.
Really can't wait for this.
Literally the only person rude here is you. There was no need to call the poor dude an asshole for pointing out a flaw in your logic?
It means that the engine the game is built in is not itself a blocker for releasing the game on the Switch. Any middleware the game uses, and all of the game-specific work could be easy or hard or impossible to port, it entirely depends on the game.
Skittzo0413
Member
Extensive testing is currently underway:
This gif sums up some of the Japanese third parties fairly nicely.
LordBaztion
Member
Nice, I hope developers now can take more advantages from DX12.
James Scott
Banned
Snake Pass is probably a good look at how Switch UE4 ports will fair. A fairly quick port out in the first month of the system without fully featured UE4 support came out pretty well even if the resolution is sub 720p.
Also Switch likely came out at a good time since UE4 had a lot of support from devs but games didn't start coming out until last year or so.
Also Switch likely came out at a good time since UE4 had a lot of support from devs but games didn't start coming out until last year or so.
Zombegoast
Member
Outside of the character models, the environments and npc aren't up to standard when you look at MKX, IJ2 and Killer Instinct.
Plus the netcode bottlenecks the cpu.
Don't the new Guilty Gear run on UE4?
3.5
James Scott
Banned
Street Fighter 4 and Tekken are both UE4, no?
It's not automatic, and the ease of updating depends entirely on the project.
I for example can update my little game project by just running the project on the new version and everything works. It's probably not quite so simple for bigger devs.
It's a beautiful engine, but in the two months I've worked with it there have been already multiple times when I wanted to throw everything from the window, mainly because the documentation is a painful mess.
That said, it's probably the best choice right now and a reason to expect greatness from Switch.
That said, it's probably the best choice right now and a reason to expect greatness from Switch.