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The Surge |OT| Live Die Repeat
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comshoplesce
Member
Where to farm mark 3 parts?
NaturalHigh
Member
Very minor loot spoilers:
For armor: Beginning of area 4, the hazard gear (flame thrower dudes) is Mark 3. You'll also get good tech scrap, so wear the xp boost implants if you got any.
For weapon: At the end of that same area the silver guys (proteus).
For weapon: At the end of that same area the silver guys (proteus).
BakedTanooki
Member
These little laser shooting robots are kind of assholes. I'm an hour in and they've killed me more times than I want to admit.
I always kill them with a dash / jump attack. So, dash forward and press attack after.
You can move super fast in the game. It's pretty easy to dodge their laser shots with a dash.
InsaneTiger
Member
I made it to R&D, fuck this place.
Whoa, head back to R&D after getting to Nucleus and kill Barret and cut off his arm. He drops a Proteus weapon twin-rigged weapon called Code Named Valkyrie that has high scaling. Nifty for people running light builds!
Use liquidator gear man (dropped by most enemies in R&D). With the buff it just got it makes R&D a cakewalk
Use liquidator gear man (dropped by most enemies in R&D). With the buff it just got it makes R&D a cakewalk
Meccs
Member
Just finished the game. One of the worst level designs I have encountered in recent years. All those lifts and their copy and paste "crawl spaces" were a pain in the ass.
The last boss was actually ok, especially the
. Very reminiscent of the Bloodborne fights against the Hunters. I loved those. I'll give it a 4/10. 6/10 if it weren't for that absolutely retarded areas that all look the same and have no real logic to it. Combat was solid though, bad hit boxes from time to time but all in all it felt good.
The last boss was actually ok, especially the
second part
comshoplesce
Member
Blitzrules240
Banned
Just remember Rome wasn't built in a day.
Don't know why everyone is expecting the atmosphere to be repaired so quickly. It only took 2 centuries to get to this
BakedTanooki
Member
Looks like I fucked up twice.
No sunglasses and no Equalizer for me.
Did the Jo Quest-line and got a trophy for giving her all the scrap metal. Now went to her room but there isn't anything.
Seems like you only get the sunglasses if you DO NOT do her quest. Damn.
No sunglasses and no Equalizer for me.
Did the Jo Quest-line and got a trophy for giving her all the scrap metal. Now went to her room but there isn't anything.
Seems like you only get the sunglasses if you DO NOT do her quest. Damn.
H3rTz DoNuT
Member
I think so, as I missed the quest completely and I found the sunglasses.
NaturalHigh
Member
You get the sunglasses if you don't take the Equalizer the first time you go there (according to the Wiki). I gave her scrap twice and gave her the weapon back the last time, and there are no sunglasses. Also,
now she's dead and the Equalizer was just laying outside of ops.
BakedTanooki
Member
I finished her quest and now got the weapon in the same way (she being dead).
And yeah, I think the wiki entry is wrong. I didn't took the weapon and still no sunglasses. According to people, you can get them only if you don't do her scrap metal quest
And yeah, I think the wiki entry is wrong. I didn't took the weapon and still no sunglasses. According to people, you can get them only if you don't do her scrap metal quest
I felt bad but i had to search my path online after in area 3 you talk to the dr, she tells you to go to executive floors and
this could had been way better explained.
Also, feel free to spoil me, is there a way to
i had no idea you had to take the train back to area 2
Also, feel free to spoil me, is there a way to
dont get toxic? I want to defeat the big machine in area 3 but i keep dying with toxic
Easy way if you're still there is to kill the dudes with the flamethrowers and grab their gear. It nullifies gas and poison dmg. R&d becomes much more manigable if you pick up said gear. Called the liquidator set.
If you're already at r&d then there's a toxic nullifier implant laying around you can find.
BakedTanooki
Member
Thank you, i have the full liquidator set but i still get damage? Its just less damage?
Easily agree.I think I'm at the last boss and whoever said that the game get's worse was lying
The maze like consolidated area design reminds me so much of classic rpgs like ultima underworld and wizardry. It's awesome to see a game these days remember how to make a great maze to get lost in. Bad level design my fucking ass, I'll easily take more of this stuff (which contrary to popular opinion, was in fact featured in a souls game--demons souls) than the more horizontal and linear levels of recent souls games. Intricate design should be applauded, not brow beaten for not being enough like dark souls. Dark souls isn't the be all end all of design, not every game has to be exactly like it.
@jingo: are you on console? The set got a buff to nullify dmg completely on PC beta branch according to the patch notes. I haven't tried it yet though because I just use the rebreather implant lol >.>
bati
Member
A thousand times this. I love it when games take me out of my comfort zone, but in a good way, through genius design. The last game where I literally got lost was UnderRail (which also doesn't have a map!) but after playing both games a lot I've started to see the patterns in how the levels flow and once you reach that point when you can tell where you are just by looking at various landmarks it is goddamn amazing.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Yay! got the full 1000! Wonderful game. Hope there's some dlc. Working my way through ng++.
According to the patch notes, the devs agree with a lot of us that the last level has some bullshit.
I think I'm at the last boss and whoever said that the game get's worse was lying
According to the patch notes, the devs agree with a lot of us that the last level has some bullshit.
I wish they did a little more with the mechanic of
in the last area, there wasn't much of a puzzle to it, as is. I'm sure most people have already covered this, but the only thing I really didn't care for in that final zone were the
enemy types, they were just super hard to read, especially their one-shot kill projectile.
moving your ops center up and down levels for an optimal shortcut
Phalanx(?)
Yep, how this game isnt a hit here ln gaf with all the souls fans, ita a mystery for me, im sure anyone who plays it will like it, the combat system is so good.
Thats because all the true fans boycott this game like the plebs they are.
I haven't had much time to put into the game but I'm a bit baffled by those putting down the level design and mind you I'm not talking about the art design of the levels but the actual level lay outs, the really clever and varied shortcuts back to a central area and the maze like set up. I love games where I can get lost in the levels and have to figure them out so that plays a part but I'd be willing to make the bold point that I think its more well done than some of the Souls games, 2 and 3 especially.
Herr Schwarz
Banned
This game is Game of the Year for me, or at least makes the list. Love the art style, love the social commentary, love the fact that I'm fighting what looks like a car assembly plant boss.
Also, for those who knows, I really want to go back to the first part of the game again and reclear everything I didn't clear before. Is there going to be an unlock in the future, where I can get back to the start? Like a teleport? I see the trainstation, but it only moves laterally once, didn't seem like I could just say "go to the start".
I'm at the research labs, the unmapped zone etc, is there a way to get back to the start without massive effort?
Now that I play this game a lot, I also wish that Dead Space had gone in this direction, and not whatever the fuck Dead Space sunk to.
Also, for those who knows, I really want to go back to the first part of the game again and reclear everything I didn't clear before. Is there going to be an unlock in the future, where I can get back to the start? Like a teleport? I see the trainstation, but it only moves laterally once, didn't seem like I could just say "go to the start".
I'm at the research labs, the unmapped zone etc, is there a way to get back to the start without massive effort?
Now that I play this game a lot, I also wish that Dead Space had gone in this direction, and not whatever the fuck Dead Space sunk to.
Coriolanus
Banned
Hmm, game only registering near 50k units sold in steamspy so far. A bit sad.
Then again, that's twice what styx 2 managed so far >__>
Then again, that's twice what styx 2 managed so far >__>
If you get back on the train it'll take you back to the first area.
Herr Schwarz
Banned
I got on a train once and it only took me back to that biome biological area and to the connecting spot. It only moved between those two...
I'll try finding the next station I guess, I didn't see any kind of option or Map to select which station I wanted to go to.
There are two trains in the second area. The one needed to go back to the first area is just outside the med bay. Head out, move forward past the three legged robot thing, turn left and voila.
Yeah wrong train. You need to backtrack to the start of the area to find the train you came in on.
Herr Schwarz
Banned
Well I'm not there now, I'm at the R&D place, fighting those guys that get back up after u do em in. So I'll look for whatever train station there and it'll be able to get me back to the first place?
Like, I won't ever need to exit the train just ride that rail straight back to the first spot? Seems like I'm never going back, if it's too much hassle.
The exit in the R&D area is in the main hub where the med bay is. Once an NPC triggers an alarm and the security guys turn up, you can exit the place. From the med bay, you have to run through two security guards and there will be a large shutter with an switch on the left side. That will lead you to back to the second area.
After that, refer to my previous post.
Coriolanus
Banned
do feel that the train design would've been a bit better if you simply unlocked the permissions to travel to each station, and then always had to backtrack to the same central train station.
You already have to do the backtracking, since they all connect to area 2, but then gotta also move to one of the several train stations in that area. That station downstairs in area 2 would be quite perfect for this.
There are three.
You already have to do the backtracking, since they all connect to area 2, but then gotta also move to one of the several train stations in that area. That station downstairs in area 2 would be quite perfect for this.
There are three.
NaturalHigh
Member
It adds elemental resistance. There is an implant you can get in R&D that completely nullifies gas damage. Location video
That leads to
Nucleus
Coriolanus
Banned
yarp. im saying that the train there should always be there and able to take you to any station, and they'd just show up in a destination selection menu as you unlocked them.
I'm a bit lost on where to go. There's a guy saying (over a pa?) that he's waiting for me, blah blah, big red exit sign or something, but I can't for the life of me figure out where to go. There was a room that extends a bridge and moves the smelting machines, but I have no idea what to do.
BakedTanooki
Member
The game is already one of those "underrated gems" to me.
The game is WAY better than expected, after reading some Gaf impressions on day 1.
The fighting / gameplay is awesome and never gets old to me. Love the atmosphere and setting. Even with it's flaws, I have as much fun with the surge, as I had with any other Souls-like game.
The game is WAY better than expected, after reading some Gaf impressions on day 1.
The fighting / gameplay is awesome and never gets old to me. Love the atmosphere and setting. Even with it's flaws, I have as much fun with the surge, as I had with any other Souls-like game.
There should be an elevator in that room that will take you down into Recycling. It'll be next to a machine that refills you injectables
Edit: Speaking of Smelters, there is supposed to be two in Recycling right? I'm on NG+ and both times I've gone there the coin was just sitting in the middle of the room and there was only one Smelter
BakedTanooki
Member
Yeah, I also prepared for 2 smelters, but there was only 1 of them + the other coin.
Coriolanus
Banned
if you use the console to tell one smelter to fuck off, the one left should drop two.
Was the case for me, anyway.
comshoplesce
Member
that is low
i hope consoles doing better.probably steam doing bad because it's pirated
InsaneTiger
Member
Agreed, the combat is fast like BB, if a bit faster.
I did that, but couldn't figured where to go from there. Am I supposed to separate the smelters and fight them?