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Media Create Sales: Week 20, 2017 (May 15 - May 21)

ggx2ac

Member
The whole Capcom/Sony MH deal seems so bizarre. Quite frankly, it benefits no one. I don't think it would grow the franchise in the west very much, and folks in Japan would likely just stick with the revived Portable series. So why even bother? It just doesn't seem necessary in any way, especially if Sony's goal is just to keep the popular installments off of Nintendo systems (which, based on the rumor, would be their goal in securing MH5 - which is silly).

But, like others have said, it's hard to entirely write this off because it's just stupid enough to be possible from Capcom.

I'm trying to remember other times Capcom has done something like this.

I'm guessing everyone is just referencing the Capcom Five for GameCube which ended up being a pointless deal for Nintendo.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
The whole Capcom/Sony MH deal seems so bizarre. Quite frankly, it benefits no one. I don't think it would grow the franchise in the west very much, and folks in Japan would likely just stick with the revived Portable series. So why even bother? It just doesn't seem necessary in any way, especially if Sony's goal is just to keep the popular installments off of Nintendo systems (which, based on the rumor, would be their goal in securing MH5 - which is silly).

But, like others have said, it's hard to entirely write this off because it's just stupid enough to be possible from Capcom.

Plus Sony is so desperate in Japan that they...released the console last over there and barely made or even promoted any games targeted at that region, instead focusing all of their development on projects that would sell well globally.
 

Cerium

Member
I'm trying to remember other times Capcom has done something like this.

I'm guessing everyone is just referencing the Capcom Five for GameCube which ended up being a pointless deal for Nintendo.

It was precisely because of that deal that Resident Evil: Code Veronica is not called Resident Evil 4.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Sony isnt desperate about Japan at all - its just isnt their focus since they sell much more consoles and games in other markets.
 

Passose

Banned
I'm trying to remember other times Capcom has done something like this.

I'm guessing everyone is just referencing the Capcom Five for GameCube which ended up being a pointless deal for Nintendo.
Capcom should do another Capcom 5 for the switch


lol
 

Kanann

Member
Maybe heads in Square when they realized there is no way the lost Japanese sales to be replenished from elsewhere.

or they just want the game to sell more than 2 million :p

No. It seems like someone actually had some business sense over at Squenix and saved DQXI from flopping at retail.

Assumption event:
Final Quest 10
----------------------------[200x]----------------------------
Horii "Woohoo! we do MMO!!!"
Fujisawa (...Oh shit, this is bad.............)
Miyake "On what?"
Horii "What is the most popular console that involve kids?" ..... "Wii? okay~ we do it on Wii!"
Fujisawa (...This is really really bad............)
Wada (Sit there having no idea at all) "Here, money, take this crystal tools with you too."
Miyake "Now we have money, who can do online game? FFXI team?"
Saito "No! it's me! I have team, Orca is my b*tch"
YoshiP "Count me in too! I'm cool"
Fujisawa "Please no, Wii ok but no MMO"
YoshiP "F*ck off!"
Horii "MMO!"
Saito "(laugh)"
Fujisawa "........................I hate you all"
----------------------------[201*]----------------------------
YoshiP "OK, I'm done" (next station > FFXIV ARR)
Fujisawa "W.T.F."
Saito "Keep doing"
Miyake "Seem like we print a lot of money, good job Saito"
Horii "Woohoo!"
Saito "Woohoo! now do NieR or I quit"
Miyake "!!!"
Fujisawa "I quit"
Saito "K, bye"

Final Quest 11
----------------------------[20**]----------------------------
Horii "Woohoo! we do big screen!!!"
Miyake "How?"
Saito "Leave it to me, Orca is my b*tch"
Horii "PS4 only!"
Saito "WRYYYYYY"
Matsuda "STOP!!!"
Miyake "Staffs need to eat, you old hag!"
Horii "................k......"

----------------------------[2***]----------------------------
Saito "We do NX too" (Didn't know spec, didn't have devkit yet)
**devkit arrival**
Horii "What the f*ck is this shit?"
Miyake "SAITOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"
 
Or because CV was always a spinoff designed to keep a promise to Sega.
CV was considered RE3 internally at Capcom, but they had a deal with Sony for numbered titles being on PS1. RE3 Nemesis was internally called RE1.9 or something, and was called RE Gaiden at one point.

So are we supposed to be expecting a Monster Hunter 5 this year at E3?
I'm going to guess not E3, but maybe before TGS. August 25th is also the date when P3rd HD got released and the MH3G/MH4 megaton was announced September 12th the same year.
 
I believe it's fair to say, if you want to play future MH games, you should buy a Switch. Really don't see a console/pc release of MH5. If there was cross-play, sure, but there won't be, so no.
 

Passose

Banned
Assumption event:
Final Quest 10
----------------------------[200x]----------------------------
Horii "Woohoo! we do MMO!!!"
Fujisawa (...Oh shit, this is bad.............)
Miyake "On what?"
Horii "What is the most popular console that involve kids?" ..... "Wii? okay~ we do it on Wii!"
Fujisawa (...This is really really bad............)
Wada (Sit there having no idea at all) "Here, money, take this crystal tools with you too."
Miyake "Now we have money, who can do online game? FFXI team?"
Saito "No! it's me! I have team, Orca is my b*tch"
YoshiP "Count me in too! I'm cool"
Fujisawa "Please no, Wii ok but no MMO"
YoshiP "F*ck off!"
Horii "MMO!"
Saito "(laugh)"
Fujisawa "........................I hate you all"
----------------------------[201*]----------------------------
YoshiP "OK, I'm done" (next station > FFXIV ARR)
Fujisawa "W.T.F."
Saito "Keep doing"
Miyake "Seem like we print a lot of money, good job Saito"
Horii "Woohoo!"
Saito "Woohoo! now do NieR or I quit"
Miyake "!!!"
Fujisawa "I quit"
Saito "K, bye"

Final Quest 11
----------------------------[20**]----------------------------
Horii "Woohoo! we do big screen!!!"
Miyake "How?"
Saito "Leave it to me, Orca is my b*tch"
Horii "PS4 only!"
Saito "WRYYYYYY"
Matsuda "STOP!!!"
Miyake "Staffs need to eat, you old hag!"
Horii "................k......"

----------------------------[2***]----------------------------
Saito "We do NX too" (Didn't know spec, didn't have devkit yet)
**devkit arrival**
Horii "What the f*ck is this shit?"
Miyake "SAITOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"
....................
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
So, will Monster Hunter XX be a worldwide release?

Exactly what I was thinking: the just-released USFII was a worldwide simultaneous release as well with Nintendo doing the publishing duties in Europe, so treated "like" a Nintendo's own release on Switch.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Assumption event:

Imagining Horii saying something like this....
Horii "What the f*ck is this shit?"

LOL
Exactly what I was thinking: the just-released USFII was a worldwide simultaneous release as well with Nintendo doing the publishing duties in Europe, so treated "like" a Nintendo's own release on Switch.

This would also explain why we havent seen much from Capcom in terms of announcements. If those are worldwide releases that Nintendo is publishing they would wanna keep the 2nd half of the year announcements until e3.

The move for now and Japan makes sense - so that people feel okay about investing in MHXX 3DS knowing that they can upgrade or play with Switch owners down the line.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Japanese Famitsu digital sales for April (Nintendo-only for now), from JapaneseNintendo

01. Issho ni Chokitto Snippers (Switch) - 58,078* (*+10,094 download cards)
02. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Switch) - 26,997
03. Monster Hunter XX (3DS) - 18,222
04. Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia (3DS) - 13,710
05. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch) - 8,197
06. Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X (3DS) - 3,544
07. 1-2 Switch (Switch) - 3,022
08. Mario Sports Superstars (3DS) - 2,892
09. Pro Yakyuu Famista Climax (3DS) - 2,216
10. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Wii U) 1,863
11. Pokémon Sun Moon (3DS) - 1,817
12. Super Bomberman R (Switch) - 1,565
13. Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS (3DS) - 834

P.S. Did Capcom annunce when MHXX preorders officially start?
 

Cerium

Member
But why we're assuming this is real now? I don't get it.
The reason it got attention in the first place is because it correctly called MHXX with that name a few hours before the announcement.

And another one of the things on the list just came true:

"mh cross-cross is being rushed to switch launch to set up for mhportable"
 

Calm Mind

Member
Assumption event:
Final Quest 10
----------------------------[200x]----------------------------
Horii "Woohoo! we do MMO!!!"
Fujisawa (...Oh shit, this is bad.............)
Miyake "On what?"
Horii "What is the most popular console that involve kids?" ..... "Wii? okay~ we do it on Wii!"
Fujisawa (...This is really really bad............)
Wada (Sit there having no idea at all) "Here, money, take this crystal tools with you too."
Miyake "Now we have money, who can do online game? FFXI team?"
Saito "No! it's me! I have team, Orca is my b*tch"
YoshiP "Count me in too! I'm cool"
Fujisawa "Please no, Wii ok but no MMO"
YoshiP "F*ck off!"
Horii "MMO!"
Saito "(laugh)"
Fujisawa "........................I hate you all"
----------------------------[201*]----------------------------
YoshiP "OK, I'm done" (next station > FFXIV ARR)
Fujisawa "W.T.F."
Saito "Keep doing"
Miyake "Seem like we print a lot of money, good job Saito"
Horii "Woohoo!"
Saito "Woohoo! now do NieR or I quit"
Miyake "!!!"
Fujisawa "I quit"
Saito "K, bye"

Final Quest 11
----------------------------[20**]----------------------------
Horii "Woohoo! we do big screen!!!"
Miyake "How?"
Saito "Leave it to me, Orca is my b*tch"
Horii "PS4 only!"
Saito "WRYYYYYY"
Matsuda "STOP!!!"
Miyake "Staffs need to eat, you old hag!"
Horii "................k......"

----------------------------[2***]----------------------------
Saito "We do NX too" (Didn't know spec, didn't have devkit yet)
**devkit arrival**
Horii "What the f*ck is this shit?"
Miyake "SAITOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"

You've brightened my day. Thank you!

Japan of Nintendo
 
The reason it got attention in the first place is because it correctly called MHXX with that name a few hours before the announcement.

And another one of the things on the list just came true:

"mh cross-cross is being rushed to switch launch to set up for mhportable"

I see, I still doubt MH 5 or whatever would be a PS4 exclusive.
 

Mr Swine

Banned
You know guys, wouldn't Capcom/Sony release a port of Monhun XX just to see how it sells in Japan or worldwide on the PS4?

I also expect Monhun XX on Switch to do at least 500k in Japan. This is a good first year for Switch if Nintendo manages to fix their stock issues :)
 

ggx2ac

Member
You know guys, wouldn't Capcom/Sony release a port of Monhun XX just to see how it sells in Japan or worldwide on the PS4?

I also expect Monhun XX on Switch to do at least 500k in Japan. This is a good first year for Switch if Nintendo manages to fix their stock issues :)

Because according to the rumour it's a Monster Hunter that is for western audiences to expand the IP.

Ergo, dumbed down controls and mechanics.

Edit: Shouldn't Toukiden and God Eater have been successful then? Oh well.
 

Passose

Banned
Because according to the rumour it's a Monster Hunter that is for western audiences to expand the IP.

Ergo, dumbed down controls and mechanics.

Edit: Shouldn't Toukiden and God Eater have been successful then? Oh well.
they failed because they didn't have the Monster Hunter brand name, Sony can use the Monster Hunter brand to sell lots of copies and consoles in Japan though
 

Cerium

Member
Assuming the rumor is real, a lot comes down to whether Portable 5 is announced before MH5 releases.

If Japan knows about MHP5, I don't see them getting very excited for MH5.
 

Shengar

Member
Assuming the rumor is real, a lot comes down to whether Portable 5 is announced before MH5 releases.

If Japan knows about MHP5, I don't see them getting very excited for MH5.

If they announce the latter earlier, they would get mad to even care about the former.

P3 was a super late port, and MHO is just a Japan only MMO version of Monster Hunter

MHO is China only. You guys probably mean Monster Hunter Frontier series which is indeed released on console and developed by different team.
 

Mory Dunz

Member
To think we could have had meltdowns of epic proportions!!!

MH5 will cause that regardless of the systems. People who have never heard of MH will come out of the woodwork for that one with opinions.


Also, if FFVIIR comes to Xbox or Switch it's gonna be nasty.

One of "those" threads is gonna happen this year you feel.
 

Xbro

Member
Now that they've announced the remaining Amiibo's release dates (in June), there's really nothing pointing to a Smash port at all right? Honestly that one will take more time, and given how Smash likes having a hype cycle, if they want to introduce any new characters (let's say Ice Climbers), they'd need time to do that.

I think I recall an interview with Reggie about the switch where he was listing games and he listed Smash Bros

---


So Dragon Quest X got release dates for PS4 and Switch
 

zeromcd73

Member
lol the presentator actually asked about the Switch version of DQXI in the latest livestream. Saito said that due to "adult circumstances" they really can't talk about it at the moment, but when they can they will talk about it. Saito noted how Horii was being extra careful when asked which he usually isn't since he didn't say a single thing in reply to the question.
 

Oregano

Member
The reason it got attention in the first place is because it correctly called MHXX with that name a few hours before the announcement.

And another one of the things on the list just came true:

"mh cross-cross is being rushed to switch launch to set up for mhportable"

rushed to Switch launch but missed it by 5 months?

I don't think that supports that rumour very well.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
lol the presentator actually asked about the Switch version of DQXI in the latest livestream. Saito said that due to "adult circumstances" they really can't talk about it at the moment, but when they can they will talk about it. Saito noted how Horii was being extra careful when asked which he usually isn't since he didn't say a single thing in reply to the question.

What are "adult circumstances" ?
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
The reason it got attention in the first place is because it correctly called MHXX with that name a few hours before the announcement.

And another one of the things on the list just came true:

"mh cross-cross is being rushed to switch launch to set up for mhportable"
I still don't see where that part of the rumour is actually from. It's not actually what the dude said in the original leak or even in that thread. How are people sure it's even from the leaker and what's the source of it.
 

Mory Dunz

Member
Because according to the rumour it's a Monster Hunter that is for western audiences to expand the IP.

Ergo, dumbed down controls and mechanics.

Edit: Shouldn't Toukiden and God Eater have been successful then? Oh well.

Maybe we need some numbers for this discussion of expanding MH


What would be a good western performance to show the growth Capcom wants from MH?
I say 1 million LTD in NPD/NA would be the jumping off point.
 

test_account

XP-39C²
Because according to the rumour it's a Monster Hunter that is for western audiences to expand the IP.

Ergo, dumbed down controls and mechanics.

Edit: Shouldn't Toukiden and God Eater have been successful then? Oh well.
In what way would the controls and mechanics be dumbed down?
 

duckroll

Member
"adult circumstances" LOL

It's a pretty standard Japanese phrase which basically implies (business/politcal) things beyond the person's control. I suppose it's like the saying "That's above my pay grade" in English, but Japanese tends to be more indirect.
 

ggx2ac

Member
In what way would the controls and mechanics be dumbed down?

Just in reference to the rumour, it's listed there:

Well, this is the full trail from 'the same person', if you're interested.
mh5_ps4.jpg

mh5_ps4-2.jpg


I'm personally hoping for MH5 PS4 to be a character action game set during the Paul WS Anderson film developed by Ninja Theory.

Japan will buy whatever version of the game they feel like.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Company bigwigs telling them not to talk about it.

Ah okay...heh - yeah its obvious that they shouldnt talk/market the Switch version when they are trying to sell the 3DS/PS4 release. Especially since SE probably hopes alot of people to double dip depending on the release date.
 

Kanann

Member
It's a pretty standard Japanese phrase which basically implies (business/politcal) things beyond the person's control. I suppose it's like the saying "That's above my pay grade" in English, but Japanese tends to be more indirect.

I know I know, it's just funny to see Saito suffer.
 
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