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Former Mozilla CTO: "Chrome won."

Occam

Member
By the way, if you are on Android and don't wish to give Google direct access to your brain, Dolphin seems to work quite well. I have it as a secondary browser besides Firefox, in case a website doesn't properly function for some reason.
 

Kerensky

Banned
LynxGAF reporting in!!

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brainslug

Member
I used Firefox for many years, until last winter I finally switched to Chrome. Main reason for that was that Twitch freezed a lot with Firefox. No issues with Chrome.

On my phone, I've always used Chrome.
 
Edge is pretty decent, it's mostly lightweight and so far hasn't shown any signs of slowing down and crashing like FF and Chrome do on the regular.

I still use FF as my main browser though, I feel I owe it to them for freeing me from the IE shackles all those years ago. It'll be a sad day when FF isn't around any more, but they haven't exactly been doing great work recently either. The memory leaks in FF are fucking annoying.
 

Everdred

Member
I saw this thread so I thought "Hey, I'll try FireFox again!". Installed it and trying it right now... I've been browsing for about an hour and it's proving to be quite a resource hog. It's using 1.2gb for one tab on NeoGAF, pretty pathetic. No add-ons installed.

I jumped ship when Chrome included Flash in the browser. It was nice not having to install flash separately and having it ask to be updated all the time.
 

Harmen

Member
Edge is pretty decent, it's mostly lightweight and so far hasn't shown any signs of slowing down and crashing like FF and Chrome do on the regular.

I still use FF as my main browser though, I feel I owe it to them for freeing me from the IE shackles all those years ago. It'll be a sad day when FF isn't around any more, but they haven't exactly been doing great work recently either. The memory leaks in FF are fucking annoying.

Hmmn, for me Edge is always becoming terribly slow after longer sessions, whereas I never have that problem with Chrome or Firefox (I have all of them installed on the same laptop). Furthermore, I sometimes get bugs in Edge where I am rendered incapable of uploading a file or some crucial aspect of a site just refuses to load. So I am just about done checking Edge out myself.
 
I saw this thread so I thought "Hey, I'll try FireFox again!". Installed it and trying it right now... I've been browsing for about an hour and it's proving to be quite a resource hog. It's using 1.2gb for one tab on NeoGAF, pretty pathetic. No add-ons installed.

I jumped ship when Chrome included Flash in the browser. It was nice not having to install flash separately and having it ask to be updated all the time.

I have 4 tabs open 2 Youtube, Neogaf, and ESPN, Firefox only using 246megs....I am on Windows 10, I found Firefox on Windows 7 to be a memory hog..

5 Addons install...
 
As much as I love Firefox and don't plan on switching, for some reason Netflix won't work on my Firefox. I have Chrome installed on my PC just so I can watch Netlfix. A coworker of mine has the exact same problem.

I did some looking around for a solution but it was just easier to download Chrome.

Also I didn't even realize Firefox had a mobile browser. Never crossed my mind.
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
Google.com, if it sees you're not using Chrome it asks you to download Chrome.
no it does not
Yes it does. Every time I've visited Google on Internet Explorer for the past five years or so there's been a popup telling me to install Chrome.
Yep. Does on Safari too. And it doesn't stop appearing even if you dismiss it.

Fortunately I rarely ever go to google.com. It's 2017. That's what the address bar is for.
 
didnt know firefox was doing that bad. im still happy with it. (though to be honest, it freezes alot)

id switch to opera if i ever switch though, chrome seems very dumbed down to me
 

Arkanius

Member
Firefox has much better performance for me but Chrome has so much better compatibility with the whole Internet because WebKit nowadays is the de fact standard.

I'm perpetuating the problem, and I know. I prefer Mozilla's vision of the web...
 

Coreda

Member
Google.com, if it sees you're not using Chrome it asks you to download Chrome.

It has done this for me even when using Chromium (the non-Google-laced version). Some people overlook the force Google pushed Chrome from day one. It was pushed on Youtube, Google.com, Gmail, etc, and even some physical advertisements IIRC. They generated buzz from it all and it reached record 24-hour downloads the day of release.

The IE brand was already tarnished so I doubt MS could have pulled something similar, but they're about the only ones who could have. Add the enormous mobile segment and there's your recipe.

LynxGAF reporting in!!

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This is sweet. Did you have to apply custom tweaks to the layout?
 

Caayn

Member
no it does not
Yes it does, and it does so on every Google site. Google advertises Chrome very aggressively with their market share from other products.

For example in Edge: (Notice how the "Ja" (Yes) action is the only action that's made to look like a button as your average Joe would expect it to.

Translation in order of appearance:
1) Google recommends Chrome. Give it a try?
2) Download Google Chrome. Try a fast and safe browser with automatic updates.
3) Read every website automatically in your own language. Chrome is a fast and safe browser with built-in* updates.
4) Watch Youtube videos with Chrome. Yes, download Chrome now.

*What the fuck does built-in updates even mean
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
Dang. I used to use nothing but Firefox, but it eventually just became too slow and cumbersome.
 

Coreda

Member
Yeah it sucks. I'll keep using firefox until Chrome lets me customize my downloads bar.

I doubt Chrome will ever allow for much customization in that regard. Though even Firefox will take a step back come November when it will be removing XUL addon support entirely in favor of Chrome-compatible addons.

Dang. I used to use nothing but Firefox, but it eventually just became too slow and cumbersome.

Testing on a fresh Firefox profile can tell you whether it's Firefox or the profile itself that's causing the slowdown. A new profile on my system edges out Chromium for the things I've been testing.
 
Yes it does, and it does so on every Google site. Google advertises Chrome very aggressively with their market share from other products.

For example in Edge: (Notice how the "Ja" (Yes) action is the only action that's made to look like a button as your average Joe would expect it to.


Translation in order of appearance:
1) Google recommends Chrome. Give it a try?
2) Download Google Chrome. Try a fast and safe browser with automatic updates.
3) Read every website automatically in your own language. Chrome is a fast and safe browser with built-in* updates.
4) Watch Youtube videos with Chrome. Yes, download Chrome now.

*What the fuck does built-in updates even mean

I'd argue that it amounts to anticompetitive behaviour. Leveraging a monopoly in one area to further your lead in another area.

Google is not a 'friendly' company. They are 90s Microsoft.
 

PnCIa

Member
Yes it does, and it does so on every Google site. Google advertises Chrome very aggressively with their market share from other products.

For example in Edge: (Notice how the "Ja" (Yes) action is the only action that's made to look like a button as your average Joe would expect it to.


Translation in order of appearance:
1) Google recommends Chrome. Give it a try?
2) Download Google Chrome. Try a fast and safe browser with automatic updates.
3) Read every website automatically in your own language. Chrome is a fast and safe browser with built-in* updates.
4) Watch Youtube videos with Chrome. Yes, download Chrome now.

*What the fuck does built-in updates even mean
I see this shit on my mums PC all the time, i wonder why the EU does not try to do something about this abuse of power by Google (rethoric question :p).
 

XBP

Member
My only problem with chrome is that it gets really slow when watching videos while playing a game at the same time. Vivaldi is a lot better but it doesn't happen in firefox for me with multi process enabled.
 
I saw this thread so I thought "Hey, I'll try FireFox again!". Installed it and trying it right now... I've been browsing for about an hour and it's proving to be quite a resource hog. It's using 1.2gb for one tab on NeoGAF, pretty pathetic. No add-ons installed.

I love it when there's clearly something wrong with someone's configuration and settings and yet they blame the browser instead of maybe trying to figure out why they're having abnormal performance.
 

Tecnniqe

Banned
I'd argue that it amounts to anticompetitive behaviour. Leveraging a monopoly in one area to further your lead in another area.

Google is not a 'friendly' company. They are 90s Microsoft.

US never cared about monopoly behavior. People will cheer you in the streets if you manage to make a monopoly and leverage it.



Personally I like my Google Botnet.
 

Randdalf

Member
I use Firefox Nightly because I like to be on the edge

But seriously, the reason why I use Firefox is because its autocomplete for typing URLs is so much better than Chrome.
 

Coreda

Member
I love it when there's clearly something wrong with someone's configuration and settings and yet they blame the browser instead of maybe trying to figure out why they're having abnormal performance.

They tried at least, can't blame them for that ʅ(❛ -❛ )ʃ My long-time FF profile is running at 800MB with 27 tabs open, three from GAF.
 

Upinsmoke

Member
Chrome and Firefox are kind of interchangeable to me to be honest. It won because you can't win against the might of Google.

Used to be an Opera user ages ago. It unfortunately turned to shit. It doesn't even have bookmarks anymore. I don't know why it even exists still.


It's got a built in vpn, came in handy the other day actually, not used it since though
 

Jonnax

Member
Mobile. Chrome is far better than Firefox on Android and with password/bookmark/history syncing it pulls users into the whole ecosystem.

Firefox has really improved on Android.

Add-on's are great as well.
Gotta get a user agent spoofer for when websites block non chrome browsers.
And ublock is available on it as well.
 
Never cared for FF till i noticed how great it ran compared to chrome at my job. Now they blocked it for some reason and it really sucks.

At home nearly every video i watch other then Netflix has screen tearing. Drives me fucking nuts. That's when i dust off IE and it runs perfectly.
 

Zoggy

Member
FF was da best when IE ruled everything. which was 1990 to 2009.

I was a FF user.

then chrome came and took over, now chrome is bloated and dickish. FF is king agian.

but idc enough to switch again
 
You will have to pry Firefox from my cold dead hands.

Chrome is so fucking restrictive with it's UI customization and on what addons can do.
I've tried switching to it a million times and I could never tweak it to be as comfortable to use as my FF setup nor have all the extra addon features I want.
 

PillarEN

Member
Firefox is my default on PC. Chrome is my backup or when I'm signed in on YouTube in Firefox and need to check my gmail. My grand old YouTube account was made way before gmail. And google won't let multiple accounts be signed in at once on one browser.

So on YouTube I'm signed in on one account and if I were to sign in to gmail it kicks the other account for the time being because YouTube is a google product.

Netflix also limits FF/Chrome to 720p unlike IE11.

Oh that's interesting. I don't have Netflix but I guess it's good I still have IE as my 3rd browser waiting in the dark when chrome or FF are an issue.
 
Everything is tied into Google. I wouldn't even view Chrome as simply a browser, but another extension of the Google ecosystem. Once they have you roped in, they make it very hard to leave given the number of conveniences they offer.

Mozilla never had a chance in that regard. They can make a fine browser, but that is only a small part of the equation.

Everywhere I go and everything I do is tracked by Google in some way. I buy stuff online, and suddenly my phone has the shipping information. Park my car, Google remembers my parking location. Not all of this is Chrome, but it helps remember your password words, credit card information, etc and once you get sucked into the Google ecosystem it all starts to blur together. I guess that's what makes Chrome so effective.
 

Hyun Sai

Member
Even if I prefer Firefox interface, I got too many problems with it. I switched to Chrome and had none.

So yes, Chrome won.
 
Sad to hear about firefox but IE/Edge can go and die in a fire.
Why? Edge is a fine browser, nothing wrong with it.

The IE hate really got mainstream some time back. Don't know how Microsoft can ever undo that. But it is getting a bit old, since their efforts have been solid over the past years. This idea people still have from it is from IE6/7. And it actually seems the hate from regular people only got started after they already released new versions.
 
Internet Explorer will never, ever die, too many companies are still using locked down XP/7 installs and the IT departments refuse to install a better browser. The only way to finally put a bullet in that insecure lumbering dinosaur is for a number of big companies like Google to block access if you're on a very old IE version.

I used to use Firefox like most other people, but it just got so slow and bloated around the point that Chrome added extension support that I switched off and never looked back.
 

Caayn

Member
Why? Edge is a fine browser, nothing wrong with it.

The IE hate really got mainstream some time back. Don't know how Microsoft can ever undo that. But it is getting a bit old, since their efforts have been solid over the past years. This idea people still have from it is from IE6/7. And it actually seems the hate from regular people only got started after they already released new versions.
The blind hatred towards IE, and for some reason Edge, is still alive it seems.
 
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