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Wkd BO 05•26-28•17 - Rock in bay can't stop Pirates or Guardians, Alien sinks tho

Kart94

Banned
3 hours of Michael Bay explosions?

I'm ready.

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Schlorgan

Member
Return of the King was 200 minutes. It just depends on what you do with those 200 minutes I guess.

That said, the 251 minute extended cut of RotK is torture on repeated viewings.

My family used to try and marathon the extended trilogy during holidays, and we'd start drifting out half way through TTT.
I've done that. I also did Fast and Furious 1-6 (11.5 hours) to get ready for Furious 7 (which I feel was almost more exhausting).
 

Kart94

Banned
I've done that. I also did Fast and Furious 1-6 (11.5 hours) to get ready for Furious 7 (which I feel was almost more exhausting).

How do you Marathon? When i marathon, i usually just do one movie a day or maybe two. Can't imagine doing every movie back to back. And i don't like to skip movies so yeah.

Also i feel bad for the poor guy who wants to Marathon all the MCU films for the new Avengers: Infinity War film.
 
Since we're on the topic of runtimes, The Mummy is 108 minutes long. And Total Film seems to have confirmed Dunkirk will be under 2 hours.

edit: Spider-Man Homecoming is 130 minutes.
 

J_Viper

Member
Pirates 5 was a bit underestimated, it seems: https://twitter.com/GiteshPandya/status/869571980579794944



I was thinking about this yesterday: while Pirates 5 is certainly a disappointing performer in the US, if the trends of the last two summers hold, it could still conceivably be in the 5th highest grossing film of the summer if it grosses $165-175M.

Oh boy, critics had their venom & knives ready 😂. Fans LOVE the movie. Huge positive scores. Big disconnect w/ critics & people. #Pirates #2Depp4U🔥
 
I'm just trying to save face with my top 5 domestic prediction in that one thread. :p

If the rumored runtime of 182 minutes for TF5 is true, I'm going to give it no chance of grossing more than Pirates.

Are you shitting me?! AoE's bloated runtime was easily one of the worst things about that film.

If that is TLK's runtime I'll likely just pass it by. Would had given it an ironic chance since it's Bay's last film and the bizarre nonsense he's putting into it (and I've liked the odd-numbered Bay films more than the even ones). But not if it means sitting through three hours of dreck...

EDIT: Bah, forgot about Bay's Pearl Harbor with its similar runtime. Really disliked that movie as well.
 
well, at that runtime, at least the Kermode review is going to be something to behold. If I had to guess how that will end up: Probably the best two hour snore he had in a half-hour movie where nothing happened.
 
http://deadline.com/2017/05/wonder-...ng-worldwide-projection-gal-gadot-1202104439/

How that breaks down: The DC comics movie is looking at $65M-$75M stateside at 4,100 locations, which on the low end compares to the Marvel superhero openings of Thor and Captain America: The First Avenger. Wonder Woman‘s estimate has the power to go much higher, perhaps north of $80M, that is if she can maintain a strong Rotten Tomatoes Score.
Abroad, Diana Prince's alter-ego flies into 55 markets with a range between $92M-$118M, though $100m is the comfortable projection currently. Wonder Woman will leap into such major markets as China, the UK, Russia, Korea and Brazil, to plant a foot in about 72% of the world outside North America. Other key plays, like France, Germany and Japan, come later.
Captain Underpants is estimated to open with at least $20M at 3,400 locations, and in 3D. Memorial Day openers Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales will ease 55% from its 3-day of $62.98M for $28.4M, while Paramount's Baywatch will sink 60% from its three-day of $18.5M for $7.4M.

Pretty much the same numbers as LA Times reported. I haven't had the time to give Wonder Woman's overseas opening much thought, but $100M would be a solid result.
 

Kusagari

Member
Jesus. The runtime is easily the worst thing about Bayformers. The movies all feel like never ending slogs and now this one is somehow even longer?
 
Jesus. The runtime is easily the worst thing about Bayformers. The movies all feel like never ending slogs and now this one is somehow even longer?

It's most ridiculous, too, because the Transformers stories tend to be absolute shit anyway. I get making a film 3 hours in order to flesh out a deep, intricate story, but not for a film that no one is going to watch for story to begin with.
 
I don't get it. Michael Bay is pretty self aware. He knows his movies are big, dumb action spectacles for young adults. Why would he make them 3 hours long?
 
Have you seen the trailers?

You know how much convoluted crap is in there that they're gonna explain?

challenge accepted!



From the trailers or whatever. Also some names from the community thread, so if you give a shit about these movies (WHY?): ACTUAL POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD (Or at least some characters. Just so nobody will bitch about it )
- Optimus in space: gets blown the fuck up and has to make a deal with quintessons in the form of one -oh goody, another Lilith archetype- Quintessa, getting turned into not-Galvatron in the process.
- artifact can bring back life to Cybertron, so that's basically Unicron (I think they showed a horn in one of the trailers), and you know, planet showing up in the world's worst flat shot 'oh yeah we have this in the movie' ever to attack Earth. So yeah, that's Unicron in Bay-vision. Wanna bet?
- artifact is held by humans (epic backstory, bro! Also featuring British Person as Immortal Merlin, presumably by the power of said artifact ), waste an hour trying to 'resolve' how not-Galvy Optimus gets artifact.
- turns Cybertron into shitty grassmold (ooh, Beast Machines, that show nobody watched but me- oh), grassy-not-unicron goes ID4-2 copy-paste on Earth
- waste another fucking hour on fights that happen in this context, featuring everyone's favorite shitty character: Wheely! (fuck that guy! Me Grimlock smash shitty character! I wish that would happen) But this time as a retarded old-timer bike, because you know, Bay.
- finale of half an hour where Hot rod and Rodimus somehow get involved into the plot (apparently they're in it), blowing mossplanet the fuck up while saving Earth again with no consequences at all. "what about half the planet being sucked dry" NO CONSEQUENCES AT ALL.
- actual plot progression of ten minutes (like every single other Bay movie): Not-Galvy breaks free of control, violently murders Megatron again because why not, goes off to fuck off into space again. Who kills Quintessa? A HUMAN! What a twist!
- oh, and I think that picture with like three dragon heads is literally what Bay would think of when hearing the name Trypticon, but that image is surprisingly absent from the trailers, so they probably ditched it because too expensive. Because then they would need Metroplex too ( G1 rule: one guy shows up, the other guy shows up too. No exceptions) , which would lead to Bay going 'but hooooow', so that's not happening.
oh right, and depending on human "character" filler this stretches the actual plot from roughly 60 minutes tops to three fucking hours. Maybe you'll get lucky and someone will get a sink in the face while yelling 'Martha!' but that's not gonna happen.

Also, watch the movie be a lot dumber than the somewhat (okay barely) sensible plot events I described.
 
You know what's funny is, the last 3 posts in this thread now have me thinking... if the film is actually "only" 150 minutes, it's going to be incredibly rushed. :p
 
Since we're on the topic of runtimes, The Mummy is 108 minutes long. And Total Film seems to have confirmed Dunkirk will be under 2 hours.

edit: Spider-Man Homecoming is 130 minutes.

If The Mummy is only 108 min. then I'm afraid we've seen the entire movie already. That's worrying. I think the Dunkirk runtime is why we haven't gotten much from the trailers. I have a feeling it's going to be a short but thrilling ride, kinda like Gravity. Hell, it's got a ticking timer as the score, haha. King Nolan won't disappoint.

Perfect runtime for Homecoming but that Transformers runtime is fucking hilarious. Extinction already felt like running a marathon. Plus, I think I'd rather slit my wrists than listen to Mark Walburg and robot dinosaurs make noises for 3 hours straight. At least you got some Hopkins and fireworks to try to snap you back from the brink of insanity.
 

duckroll

Member
If the rumored runtime of 182 minutes for TF5 is true, I'm going to give it no chance of grossing more than Pirates.

Hahahaha what? You're just trolling me on purpose now right? :(

I remember watching Pearl Harbor in theatres. "What? The movie isn't over? Huh?"

I caught a midnight screening of Pearl Harbor while totally drunk after a birthday party at a friend's place, a bunch of us just took a cab into the city on a whim and we missed like the first 10-20 mins. It still felt like a 3 hour movie.
 
I caught a midnight screening of Pearl Harbor while totally drunk after a birthday party at a friend's place, a bunch of us just took a cab into the city on a whim and we missed like the first 10-20 mins. It still felt like a 3 hour movie.

I've only ever fallen asleep twice in a movie theater: Godzilla '98 and Pearl Harbor.
 
Does anyone know how much North Africa and the gulf countries contribute to World wide sales? Cause we're not getting either Pirates or WW any time soon.
 

kswiston

Member
Does anyone know how much North Africa and the gulf countries contribute to World wide sales? Cause we're not getting either Pirates or WW any time soon.

Next to nothing in the larger scheme of things. UAE is the only territory likely to crack $2M.

What's wrong with Pirates?
 

Penguin

Member
It could be an audience thing, but the ads for The Mummy during SmackDown looks like moving the focus away from the mummy/mystery of what happens to Cruise into the focus on the action/adventure element of the film.
 

duckroll

Member
What child would even be able to sit through a three-hour Transformers movie?

As someone who watches every single Bayformers film multiple times in the cinema, I can safely say that I have seen (and heard... *argh*) more kids at an Interstellar IMAX screening than in any of the TF films. (I'm defining kids here as actual young children, not teenagers.)
 
The last hour of all transformers movie always end up just being an assault on your eyes and ears
Makes me think of Ebert's amazing review for Revenge of the Fallen.
Roger Ebert said:
"Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" is a horrible experience of unbearable length, briefly punctuated by three or four amusing moments. One of these involves a dog-like robot humping the leg of the heroine. Such are the meager joys. If you want to save yourself the ticket price, go into the kitchen, cue up a male choir singing the music of hell, and get a kid to start banging pots and pans together. Then close your eyes and use your imagination.
 

3N16MA

Banned
As someone who watches every single Bayformers film multiple times in the cinema, I can safely say that I have seen (and heard... *argh*) more kids at an Interstellar IMAX screening than in any of the TF films. (I'm defining kids here as actual young children, not teenagers.)

This confirms that, Bay creates his TF films for sophisticated adults.
 
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