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Brooklyn council hopeful calls Arab foe a "radical cleric." He's a Lutheran pastor.

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Bob Capano is one of so many GOP apparatchiks who thinks he deserves a city council seat because he's spent his life greasing the right palms. When confronted with a widely-respected community organizer running for the same office, Capano attacked Khader el-Yateem on his Arab heritage, slamming him as a "radical cleric". Nevermind that the guy is actually a Christian preacher.

Interesting that even when Arab Americans are as non-Muslim as can be, the right treats all of them like avowed Al-Qaeda supporters. Reverent el-Yateem is as Christian as somebody can possibly be, yet he still suffers from Islamophobic hate-mongering. Especially interesting when you consider that Republicans have been using the legitimate plight of Arab Christians to justify Islamophobia for over a decade. But whatever, they're brown and that's what counts.
 
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demosthenes

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Can't be Christian with brown skin in america.

Can't even just be Muslim. You're automatically radical and every other stupid fucking buzz word they can think of.
 
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joe2187

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It's been proven to work for them.

Their base will eat it up, ignore the facts and just scream about "Sharia Law" or some shit, and secret muslims.

Are you asking for integrity and honesty in politics? We aint never had it.
 
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Heshinsi

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demosthenes said:
Can't be Christian with brown skin in america.

Can't even just be Muslim. You're automatically radical and every other stupid fucking buzz word they can think of.
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Oh you can be Muslim...so long as you are white and don't wear anything publically to show that you are Muslim. I personally have never heard of a white Muslim being the victim of random Islamophobia, but I sure as hell seen and heard Sikhs and Hindus be victims of it. So it seems like being brown is the threshold.
 
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Miles Quaritch said:
They know, they refuse to accept or acknowledge it because it provides some convenient cover for their views.
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It was always just a convenient and acceptable cover for a lot of racists. The idea that people are being restricted from criticizing Muslims was always bullshit.
 
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NYCmetsfan

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Wag said:
Is there a source for this or is it something you found on your own?
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Its been in the Brooklyn news

http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2017/6/16/el-yateem’s-socialist-endorsement-rankles-capano

El-Yateem’s socialist endorsement rankles Capano
A candidate for Bay Ridge’s City Council seat who blasted a fellow candidate for accepting the endorsement of the Democratic Socialists of America was on the receiving end of criticism himself from the leader of the left-leaning political organization.

Days after Republican Bob Capano called on Democratic candidates to repudiate the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for endorsing Democrat Rev. Khader El-Yateem, Zelig Stern, chairman of DSA’s New York chapter, had sharp words for Capano.

“These comments, in a district that democratic socialist Bernie Sanders won in 2016, show just how out of touch [Donald] Trump’s Republicans are with the residents of South Brooklyn. Capano should turn off Fox News and step into the real world. Anyone who thinks that the status quo is working is delusional. While Republicans gut health care and victimize the weakest in our society, Democratic Socialists are continuing the political revolution to put power in the hands of working people,” Stern said in a strongly worded statement.
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Hoping to build on the excitement surrounding the Sanders campaign in 2016, DSA is planning to mobilize its 2,000 members to win a ground war to get El-Yateem elected, leaders said. Sanders, an independent senator from Vermont, generated a great deal of excitement across the country with his presidential campaign last year before losing the Democratic nomination to Hillary Clinton.

More than 100 volunteers turned out for a DSA rally for E-Yateem at the An Noor Center in Bay Ridge on June 10.

El-Yateem, a DSA member, has raised more than $90,000, according to the New York City Campaign Finance Board.

If elected, El-Yateem would be the first Arab-American to ever serve on the New York City Council.

Bob Capano recently called upon the Democratic candidates running for the Council seat to denounce DSA’s endorsement of El-Yateem. Capano also charged that the endorsement is “a clear signal that El-Yateem’s political views are out of touch with Brooklyn and the nation.”

El-Yateem said he is grateful for DSA’s endorsement. “I am proud to be endorsed by DSA, and I am proud to be a member. Together, we will fight to end inequality, and work to ensure that everyone in this city is treated with dignity and respect,” he said in a statement.
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If I still lived in Park Slope I'd probably help this guy out (El-Yateem)
 
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GoldenEye 007

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joe2187 said:
It's been proven to work for them.

Their base will eat it up, ignore the facts and just scream about "Sharia Law" or some shit, and secret muslims.

Are you asking for integrity and honesty in politics? We aint never had it.
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That and just in general I don't think people have the attention span to even begin to hear the actual truth or anyone refuting this type of stuff.
 
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Dyle

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El-Yhateem has a better logo so he deserves to win.

It's interesting how Capano has managed to the fear of Socialism and Middle Eastern religious figures into a frothy concoction of xenophobic hate. El-Yhateem should win, right? Won't all the Brooklyn hipsters love him?
 
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Zvonimir Boban said:
Yeah, that's why he called the guy a radical cleric and not a radical pastor?

Come on son.
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cleric and pastor can be used interchangeably though, and it was a direct response to the endorsement from a socialist group. I guess I just don't see how it makes a difference between cleric and pastor.
 
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joe2187

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jfkgoblue said:
I honestly don't think it is about race judging from quotes above, socialism is considered radical in the US.
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Obama had nothing to do with islam yet Trump led a very succesful and widely accepted and endorsed campaign about Obama being a secret socialist muslim from whatever the fuck else he pulled out of his ass.

It later helped him launch his presidential campaign.
 
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Gattsu25

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jfkgoblue said:
I honestly don't think it is about race judging from quotes above, socialism is considered radical in the US.
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Ahem:
Htown said:
Racism is weird. Everybody knows it totally exists, but when you look at any specific situation, racism is never involved. You can know that it exists, but when you look for it, it turns into something else.

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Racism is quantum locked. It doesn't exist when it's being observed. The moment it is seen by any living creature, it freezes into a coincidence.
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jfkgoblue said:
cleric and pastor can be used interchangeably though, and it was a direct response to the endorsement from a socialist group. I guess I just don't see how it makes a difference between cleric and pastor.
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Yes, let us recall all those times a pastor has been referred to as a cleric in the news and media. Hmmmmm.
 
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jfkgoblue said:
cleric and pastor can be used interchangeably though, and it was a direct response to the endorsement from a socialist group. I guess I just don't see how it makes a difference between cleric and pastor.
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Google "Radical cleric"

Look at the results.

Now Google "Radical Pastor"

Look at the results.

See the difference?

If you still don't get it then you're being deliberately obtuse and there's no point engaging with you further.
 
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jfkgoblue

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Zvonimir Boban said:
Google "Radical cleric"

Look at the results.

Now Google "Radical Pastor"

Look at the results.

See the difference?

If you still don't get it then you're being deliberately obtuse and there's no point engaging with you further.
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Yeah, we typically think of radical pastors as white dudes calling to murder LGBT community members, idk how that would be better though. Radical cleric literally just brings up the same British Muslim man over and over.
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Yes, let us recall all those times a pastor has been referred to as a cleric in the news and media. Hmmmmm.
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Umm it's used for both Muslim and Christian religious leaders often in the media.
 
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People will believe the Republican and see a brown man. They're going to assume he's a terrorist and vote the Repub in
 
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jfkgoblue said:
Yeah, we typically think of radical pastors as white dudes calling to murder LGBT community members, idk how that would be better though. Radical cleric literally just brings up the same British Muslim man over and over.

Umm it's used for both Muslim and Christian religious leaders often in the media.
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Examples?
 
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jfkgoblue

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Zvonimir Boban said:
Sooooooooooooooooo...



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Just because we automatically assume radical pastors are white conservatives, doesn't mean this was a dog whistle for racism.

Cleric is frequently used to refer to Christian religious leaders. A quick google news search of "cleric" bears this out.
 
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jfkgoblue said:
Umm it's used for both Muslim and Christian religious leaders often in the media.
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LOL no it isn't.

jfkgoblue said:
Just because we automatically assume radical pastors are white conservatives, doesn't mean this was a dog whistle for racism.

Cleric is frequently used to refer to Christian religious leaders. A quick google news search of "cleric" bears this out.
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A quick Google search of 'cleric' comes back with Dungeons and Dragons references.

A quick Google search of 'cleric' filtered to news literally gives you endless links to articles about ISIS.

Source: I just did this 40 seconds ago.
 
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jfkgoblue said:
Just because we automatically assume radical pastors are white conservatives, doesn't mean this was a dog whistle for racism.

Cleric is frequently used to refer to Christian religious leaders. A quick google news search of "cleric" bears this out.
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A quick Google News search for "cleric" shows the exact opposite, actually.

Take the L.
 
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Fuchsdh

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I wish that statement about this guy being out of touch with Brooklyn were true, but South Brooklyn (along with Staten Island writ large) went for Trump. A lot of old guys hanging on down there.
 
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jfkgoblue said:
Just because we automatically assume radical pastors are white conservatives, doesn't mean this was a dog whistle for racism.

Cleric is frequently used to refer to Christian religious leaders. A quick google news search of "cleric" bears this out.
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While we're google searching, here's a political rival from 2015 that he tried to tar with 'extremist' labels.

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I wonder if there is a basic pattern being followed here when he demonizes opposition in this way. I just can't put my finger on it. Nope, it must be a coincidence, it can't possibly be anything else...
 
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BlueTsunami said:
Hes using the special version of google that subverts reality to confirm his argument
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Ok.

I'm done here, I posted some of the results that popped up for me in a google news search and already said it also refers to Muslim religious leaders. But obviously some media do refer to pastors as cleric because, well there are articles.
 
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Miles Quaritch

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jfkgoblue said:
Idk I am on mobile and just went to news and googled cleric. There were both Muslim and Christian references.
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I'll back you up a bit because a search through mobile does show a couple of Christian references, but you're being disingenuous in trying to claim they are interchangeable between Islam and Christianity in the mainstream.

It's much more closely associated with Muslims and Islam. I feel you know this but you made a silly mistake and now you're reaching at obscure sites to try and validate your original post.

It's okay to admit you were wrong.
 
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