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Brooklyn council hopeful calls Arab foe a "radical cleric." He's a Lutheran pastor.

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NEO0MJ

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jfkgoblue said:
Ok.

I'm done here, I posted some of the results that popped up for me in a google news search and already said it also refers to Muslim religious leaders. But obviously some media do refer to pastors as cleric because, well there are articles.
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Maybe you're heart was in the right place, but as shown above cleric is overwhelming used to describe Muslim preachers so it's hard to give the man the benefit of the doubt, especially based on the organization he belongs to.
 
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wandering

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Essentially every single time the phrase "radical cleric" has been used in the past several years it has been in reference to Islam, so it's impossible to divorce that context from its use here when the man targeted is Arab.

It's like when people called Obama a thug. You really gonna reach for that defense that it's used on white people sometimes?
 
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Codeblue

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I'd like to add that even the word "Radical" is typically reserved for non-whites.

Even Westboro is referred to as "controversial", "conservative", or at best "hateful" by media.
 
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radios shipping overview

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Arab identity and Muslim identity are not the same thing, but they're often conflated in the west, especially by racists, except when it's convenient for them to talk about Christian Arabs. In this case, the fact that the Arab is Christian is not so convenient.

Codeblue said:
I'd like to add that even the word "Radical" is typically reserved for non-whites.

Even Westboro is referred to as "controversial", "conservative", or at best "hateful" by media.
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Yeah, it's apparently become too judgmental to even call out fundamentalism in Christian sects.
 
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Gentleman Jack

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jfkgoblue said:
Ok.

I'm done here, I posted some of the results that popped up for me in a google news search and already said it also refers to Muslim religious leaders. But obviously some media do refer to pastors as cleric because, well there are articles.
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Semantic arguing over the religious mindshare of the word 'cleric' is also going to look like you're caping for an obvious racist in the context of this news, in case you were unclear on why you're getting the reaction you got.
 
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Gattsu25

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jfkgoblue said:
Ok.

I'm done here, I posted some of the results that popped up for me in a google news search and already said it also refers to Muslim religious leaders. But obviously some media do refer to pastors as cleric because, well there are articles.
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Miles Quaritch said:
I'll back you up a bit because a search through mobile does show a couple of Christian references, but you're being disingenuous in trying to claim they are interchangeable between Islam and Christianity in the mainstream.

It's much more closely associated with Muslims and Islam. I feel you know this but you made a silly mistake and now you're reaching at obscure sites to try and validate your original post.

It's okay to admit you were wrong.
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http://lmgtfy.com/?t=i&q="radical+cleric"

How far down did you guys have to scroll before you found your examples?
 
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Jackpot

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Are people really denying that applying "radical cleric" to an arab isn't a dogwhistle? What sheltered life must you lead to be this "colourblind"?
 
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