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First Spider-Man: Homecoming reactions

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Servbot24

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LionPride said:
Nah, they aren't poorly filmed movies, neither of em. I'd give both 6/10s tbh

I can watch TASM and not want to switch it to something else just because of how much I enjoy Garfield and Stone

And like, I genuinely want people to think, is BvS or MoS REALLY one of the worst films you've ever seen? Or are you unable to not be hyperbolic to get your point across since you can't give any actual reason? Because that's most people on this site and I don't even like BvS
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They're 3 or 4 out of 10 type movies. Most people go out of their way to avoid a movie of that quality, so it's not too surprising it would automatically be one of the worst movies they've ever seen. Occasionally a franchise name just forces you to watch something.
 
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itwasTuesday

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The Kree said:
Spider-Man got some positive critical reactions, prompting everyone on this forum to start an arms race for the dumbest possible opinion on tangenitially related things.

In other words, it's Saturday night on NeoGAF.
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Neat. I love me a good hot-take thread.

I want to add one. Okay.
I thought Garfield was incredible in The Social Network and was rooting for him the entire way. Amazing 1&2 let me down. Best scene though... that's when Peter was typing and the keyboard keys stuck to his fingers. haha

Also, don't forget that the best promises are the ones you break... or something like that.
 
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LionPride

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Servbot24 said:
They're 3 or 4 out of 10 type movies. Most people go out of their way to avoid a movie of that quality, so it's not too surprising it would automatically be one of the worst movies they've ever seen. Occasionally a franchise name just forces you to watch something.
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No the fuck they aren't the acting isn't bad, the editing is meh, the action scenes are fine, the cinematography is okay.

That ain't a 3 or 4 outta 10 unless every movie you have ever seen is a consistent good to phenomenal movie. In that case sure
 
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Chained Prometheus

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Prompto said:
Hot take: Citizen Kane is great
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It's a technical masterpiece of filmmaking and basically a perfect example of all sorts of different aspects of cinematic storytelling, but alas I'm personally not all that big a fan of its story. I absolutely get its importance and historical context- it's just that Charles Foster Kane does not resonate for me as a character. It's a personal thing. But its importance in cinema should not be questioned.

Having said all of that, I side more with Orson Welles on this one- his best film is probably Chimes at Midnight. For any of its technical flaws, it's almost definitely the most sorrowful film I've ever seen. It also has the single greatest acting Welles ever gave in a scene in his whole career imo.
 
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Haines

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Prompto said:
Top 10 movies starring Batman.

Unless we count animated movies then maybe it doesn't make the cut
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BvS doesn't make any cut. It's an incredibly poorly made movie.

Starring those 2 characters fighting and being that bad takes it to it's meme internet fame.
 
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brandonh83

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Don't get the hate for Amazing 1 at all and while 2 has things about it that don't work too well and a stuffed script courtesy of Kurtzman and Orci, I don't think it's nearly as bad as some let on. I like a lot of what's there and I thought the climax was fantastic.

Negativity is pretty hyperbolic IMO but it usually​ is. Transformers 5 is a real actual piece of shit, both Amazing movies are absolutely lightyears beyond shit like that (and that's still not saying much lol)
 
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HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Chained Prometheus said:
It's a technical masterpiece of filmmaking and basically a perfect example of all sorts of different aspects of cinematic storytelling, but alas I'm personally not all that big a fan of its story. I absolutely get its importance and historical context- it's just that Charles Foster Kane does not resonate for me as a character. It's a personal thing. But its importance in cinema should not be questioned.

Having said all of that, I side more with Orson Welles on this one- his best film is probably Chimes at Midnight. For any of its technical flaws, it's almost definitely the most sorrowful film I've ever seen. It also has the single greatest acting Welles ever gave in a scene in his whole career imo.
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Gimme a break. Unicron was his greatest performance and the one for the ages.
 
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MugiwaraCole

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LionPride said:
No the fuck they aren't the acting isn't bad, the editing is meh, the action scenes are fine, the cinematography is okay.

That ain't a 3 or 4 outta 10 unless every movie you have ever seen is a consistent good to phenomenal movie. In that case sure
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You kinda forgot plot here.
 
MisterHero

MisterHero

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Thunder Monkey said:
One of the better Petey moments.

Listen... it's not like every moment is bad. But there's a lot of very stilted and unnatural acting, particularly from Maguire and Dunst, that they become the weak links. But when you've got Simmons, Molina, and Dafoe, stealing scenes and setting the standard, it's easy to become the weakest link.

Like I love Rosemary Harris as Aunt May, she's another scene stealer, but the scene in which Goblin attacks her, and directly after are overacted on a Shatnerian scale.

Probably a writing and directing issue. The second definitely has the highest highs for Maguire and Dunst. But even still... a lot of it has to do with the cast around them. Weakest links. But with that cast... just about anyone young was going to be the most likely to screw up.

My initial point was... Spidey 2 was my bar for best Spidey, all the issues I have with the portrayals by Dunst and Maguire, legit terrific movie. But... with as little as we've seen with him... I like Holland SpideyPete, better than Maguire PeteySpider.

Calling Dunst and Maguire "terrible" was hyperbole. They were the weakest links, and the stars that were overshadowed at every turn.

I hope the comparisons with Spidey 2 and Hughes are true. With a Spidey I actually like, and think can hold his own, this could be a great movie.
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Nah I get you, I was kinda commenting on thread avalanching from trashing a couple movies to trashing cinema itself. :p

I want Homecoming to be good. I think my being "not high school age" is getting in the way of that though. I'm already biased by having a supporting cast of adults replaced by kids.. Someday we may even get Holland Spidey out of college, something no other Spider-Man movie has delivered yet! :p
 
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Sanjuro

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If Homecoming had Tobey, then it might be an actually great film.

It doesn't. Therefore it is shit.

Also, Spider-Man 2 is garbage. Would have been better with Tom Holland.
 
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ryseing

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Discotheque said:
Yeah I forgot how much this place props up that Matthew Vaughn mediocrity just because of the impeccable casting of the leads (whose best xmen work isn't even in this movie) and the fact that they all have some yellow in their costumes

A million scusts to all who put this over x2 or dofp or Logan.

Best thing about these threads is the hot takes.
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I prop up that mediocrity because it's a fantastic period piece.
 
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MugiwaraCole

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brandonh83 said:
I think he's saying even if you don't personally care for the story the movies are at least pretty well done technically (apart from 2 having scripting issues) and ratings that low are over the top. It's basically blowing things out of reason.
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Nah.

BvS and SS are legit two very very bad movies. To me. To ME.

On the subject of First Class, while I agree that it's a bad movie, it's ironically also probably the closest an X-Men movie comes to being a damn X-Men movie.

I hate that Fox (and Sony with the Amazing films) can't do both things well.
 
Shambala

Shambala

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Primethius said:
BvS isn't a bad movie.

It's a fucking garbage movie and one of the worst super-hero flicks. God bless Wonder Woman for not being another shitty DCEU flick.

Homecoming sounds good. Hopefully the rumored spoilers are true.
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This made me burst out with laughter. N it's true tho😂😂
 
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George Oscar Bluth II

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This fuckin' thread.
 
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Stinkles

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mjc said:
Had a film professor who made us watch Ishtar, then proceed to tell us it's the most underrated movie of all time.
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I mean if it's watchable and bland the most underrated claim actually holds water. Because it's often dismissed as literally the worst ever by folks conflating bad with too expensive
 
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IndoAssassin

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Suicide Squad and Spider-man 3 and BvS are the best comic book movies ever made.

The theatrical versions are far superior to the Director's cut versions. I'm being serious.

Also X-Men Origins is the best Wolverine movie out of the 6 movies. He actually ends up killing the bad dude himself rather than his partner doing it.

DoFP doesn't count it was more Prof X and Magneto movie than Wolverine movie.
 
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broncobuster

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brandonh83 said:
I think he's saying even if you don't personally care for the story the movies are at least pretty well done technically (apart from 2 having scripting issues) and ratings that low are over the top. It's basically blowing things out of reason.
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You're not wrong, but it's asking people not to indulge in hyperbole here, which is only amplified by topics around fictional characters they have borderline religious affections for. Asking them to look beyond themselves. Kind of a lost cause.

And it ain't like you or me or anyone participating in these thread ain't guilty of it. Lord help any thread when the merits of Avatar are brought up.
 
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Bronx-Man

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I honestly regret bringing up ASM2. We need to forget it. Bury it deep deep in the bowels of some location unknown to the rest of mankind, Ark of the Covenant style.
 
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brandonh83

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MugiwaraCole said:
Nah.

BvS and SS are legit two very very bad movies. To me. To ME.
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Oh I thought we were talking about the two ASM movies :p

Agreed about Suicide Squad, it's fuckin horrid. BVS is in this limbo state with me where I don't really dislike it and find much about it to be well done but never feel like actually sitting through it again.
 
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LionPride

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Bronx-Man said:
Hot take: both Guardians movies are better than 6/8s of the Star Wars franchise.

You know I'm right.
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Most of the Star Wars movies aren't like...the best of movies

Empire and Awakens are honestly the best actual movies taking away from any Star Wars aura
 
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Syphon Filter

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Bronx-Man said:
I honestly regret bringing up ASM2. We need to forget it. Bury it deep deep in the bowels of some location unknown to the rest of mankind, Ark of the Covenant style.
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I honestly forgot this movie existed lol. I never bothered with any ASM movie, they looked bad. I think the last decent spiderman movie was spiderman 3 and yea i know it was disappointing compared to the first two.
 
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brandonh83

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I would rather watch Amazing 2 while my house burns down around me than watch Spiderman 3 again.

How's that for hyperbole!
Minus the house fire part it's true tho
 
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brandonh83

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kswiston said:
Amazing Spider-Man 2 was a film with no clear identity. The tone was all over the place.
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It needed more focus but I still cannot understand why they got Orci and Kurtzman to write it. The first ASM had Steve Kloves and I think the guy that wrote Spiderman 2. Talk about a downgrade.

Bronx-Man said:
Quick: what's the moral/message of Amazing Spider-Man 2?
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I don't think every movie has/needs a "message." Ask me the same about Guardians of the Galaxy and I couldn't answer that.
 
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