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Spring Anime 2017 |OT| Don't be a SukaSuka for Gacha

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Jarmel said:
Well my understanding was that the show was the splitting point between Old and New Gainax (not current nu-Gainax) resulting in a lot of the old guard eventually leaving to found Khara.
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Hideaki Anno was considered a proper staff member until late 2007 and, in words of Mr. Takeda from The Notenki Memoirs, he was finally promoted to the studio's board of directors in 2002 (long after his involvement with His and Her Circumstances). Additionally, there is also Hiroyuki Yamaga's comments (if you want to believe him) via Carl Horn about Mr. Anno wanting to tackle the production of Rebuild of Evangelion within the structure of GAiNAX at first. Most of his absence time since his last series until RoE could simply be traced to him being fed-up with some aspects of the Japanese animation industry, and patently more interested in making more progress on live-action film projects.
 
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I've loved all of Anno's Live Action endeavours, although I have still yet to see Shin Godzilla :( I imported the live action Anno BD set as soon I found out about it, Shiki-Jitsu is *mwuah* bravissimo! Looks incredible on BD! Stars my man Shunji Iwai!
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A quote from Anno back in 2000 regarding his work on Shiki-Jitsu (Ritual):

Anno: "I felt my career as an animation director had gone as far as it could, and decided I would like to try a new creative media. I am not complaining about the animation industry, but I felt I couldn't get any more satisfaction from making animation and I needed to try something new to stimulate my creativity. I knew Ayako Fujitani and I loved her book when I read it. So I decide to try and make it into film."

The style of Ritual is not dissimilar to your animated work?

Anno: "Yes, there is some similarity in the two, but it isn't direct copy. Though I used some special-effects, I was trying to make the images in the film look painterly. It's odd that when I used to do animation, I would try hard to realise the characters as if they were in a live-action movie, but when I did Ritual I put a lot of effort in making the image more graphic!"

Why you choose Shunji Iwai to act in the film?

Anno: "Two reasons. First, the profession of the main character in Ritual is a director, so it seemed ideal to get a "real" director to do it. Secondly, I think Shunji Iwai is really cool, so I thought he could capture the quality of the main character."
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Another from 2001 during the release of Spirited Away:
Anno: "However, if I was to speak just of anime as an artform, I believe it is rapidly declining. I find the anime of twenty or thirty years ago to be overwhelmingly better [than today's]. [...] Of course, even now, although we have skillful people, I feel we have a ways to go before we match the movement of the older anime."

What is the cause of that?

Anno: "It's a problem of the quality of the Japanese people themselves. To express it in the style of Shiba Ryotaro, the voltage of Japan is decreasing. It's not just anime; novels, films, manga, no matter the kind of culture, they are all surely declining, I believe. It's not simply a matter of the old times being good. We[, my generation,] and those after are already a "copy culture", so there's nothing else we can do. As copy piles upon copy, they quickly become distorted and diluted. [...] In this situation, things can hardly be improved. It's difficult, I think. From here, Japan will probably rapidly reach an impasse. Perhaps years from now, or perhaps longer, someone will figure out something, and perhaps things will just keep declining. In Japan as a country, culture has already become "blocked." Korea, China, and South Asia have been able to produce exemplary works, and the day may arrive when they do away with Japanese things. I believe the intention to break down this "blockage" is essential."
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Crimson_Echidna

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Shokugeki no Soma Episodes 17 & 18 - Sorry Soma, but I have to call shenanigans on you being able to revitalized a rundown Shopping District in the manner of two days.
 
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Sibersk Esto

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I remember an old site/forum whatever that went through the first few episodes of EVA shot by shot and that really helped me to appreciate its storyboarding and direction.

Anyone here know what I'm talking about? I saw through the wayback machine.
 
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TrueBlue

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Been out of the gane for pretty much the entirety of the season, DB Super nonwithstanding, so now I'm ready to binge.

What say you GAF? What's been the best of this season? That SukaSuka thing seems to be getting some love here.

Unless it's sarcastic love. I can never quite tell :lol
 
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Line_HTX said:
Is Anonymous Noise a good watch?
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It is if you like a drama filled shoujo. It's very shoujo..


TrueBlue said:
Been out of the gane for pretty much the entirety of the season, DB Super nonwithstanding, so now I'm ready to binge.

What say you GAF? What's been the best of this season? That SukaSuka thing seems to be getting some love here.

Unless it's sarcastic love. I can never quite tell :lol
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Sukasuka
Grimoire of Zero
My Hero Academia S2
Sword of Oratoria


I just can't recomnend Eromanga sensei and Tsugumomo, Bastard Sensei or Armed Girl Mach without serious reservations and/or warnings.
 
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TrueBlue said:
Been out of the gane for pretty much the entirety of the season, DB Super nonwithstanding, so now I'm ready to binge.

What say you GAF? What's been the best of this season? That SukaSuka thing seems to be getting some love here.

Unless it's sarcastic love. I can never quite tell :lol
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The King's Avatar. It has different production looks than most anime, and it's all on Youtube.
 
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JulianImp

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Qurupeke said:
On top of the hot weather, no Owari till August. Summer sucks.
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Same here, only replacing "hot" with "cold" and "summer" with "winter".

I was really looking forward to more Monogatari soon, but I guess it's fine if it means we don't get SHAFTed with rushed broadcast episodes that get fixed up for the later BD release.

Cornbread78 said:
The timeline is such a mess and all those mixed moments in the timeline in Koyo really screwed things up.

SO we will or will not see what happens right after that final episode of Koyo?
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I've read through most of the book already, so...

Short answer:
_______________________________________________________yes_______________________________________________________

Long answer:
yes, Mayoi Hell is the next arc, which covers what happens to Koyomi right after Gaen kills him at the end of Koyomimonogatari.
 
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Sibersk Esto said:
I remember an old site/forum whatever that went through the first few episodes of EVA shot by shot and that really helped me to appreciate its storyboarding and direction.
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Do you refer to The NGE Fan-Geeks Commentary Project? Still easily accessible:

FGC:Main - The Evangelion Commentary Project - EvaGeeks.org
https://wiki.evageeks.org/FGC:Main

Although, as I mentioned, it lacks some specific material from the original website that was mighty interesting.
 
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e_i

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Watched me some Hyouka last night. The characters walking toward the camera and then off camera thing that happens during the series is jarring.
 
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zulux21 said:
I enjoyed karekano but I don't think it makes the top 5 for me...

not when
Rurouni Kenshin: Meiji Kenkaku Romantan - Tsuioku-hen (yes this is a romance series :p)
Ouran Koukou Host Club
Skip Beat!
School Rumble (ok this might actually be a stretch for a romance series despite all the romance in it lol)
Full Moon wo Sagashite
Nana
Hachimitsu to Clover
Kodomo no Omocha
Nodame Cantabile
Romeo x Juliet
Lovely★Complex
Ookami to Koushinryou (aka spice and wolf)
Kimi ni Todoke
Cross Game
Sakamichi no Apollon (okay more of a bromance but still)
Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun
Ore Monogatari!!
ReLIFE
Yuri!!! on ICE
Hana yori Dango
Fruits Basket
Tsubasa Chronicle
Paradise Kiss
Marmalade Boy
Maison Ikkoku
Oh! Edo Rocket (okay this is more of a gag than a romance but I like including it when I can because most people haven't watched this great show :p)
Toradora!
Kaichou wa Maid-sama!
Bakuman (again quite debatable on romance front but it is a main story to the story)
Kami nomi zo Shiru Sekai
Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai
exist.

I am sure I am missing some great romance shows from my list as well.
that is also not to say that I consider all of those to be for sure better than karekano but those are the ones I saw that I had rated higher on MAL which while isn't perfect for me, is in general a good indication on how I feel about them compared to karekano. I have a feeling that if karekano got a new adaption with a proper budget that doesn't crap up the ending it would beat out some of those shows, but as it is that ending is just ugh....

again it isn't to say it is a bad show.
it's a good show and I would recommend anyone that enjoys romance anime to watch karekano, just that there are a ton of great romance shows out there lol.
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Cornbread78 said:
If I had the time, I would seriously deconstruct that list..... No Clannad; c'mon maaaan, lol
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zulux21 said:
I said I likely missed some stuff.
Clannad is not something I missed though :p

Clannad after story is though.

there is likely a number of shows on that list you haven't seen but would enjoy though corn lol.
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I was about to say. I was about to call you out too. Good thing Cornbread is on it. :D
 
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Cornbread78 said:
It is if you like a drama filled shoujo. It's very shoujo..





Sukasuka
Grimoire of Zero
My Hero Academia S2
Sword of Oratoria


I just can't recomnend Eromanga sensei and Tsugumomo, Bastard Sensei or Armed Girl Mach without serious reservations and/or warnings.
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Gotcha. I know the author or EMS did Oreimo (?), so yeah. I've seen some jokes aimed at Tsugumomo, but I'm not familiar with it or any of the others on the avoid list. I'll take your word for it!

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The King's Avatar. It has different production looks than most anime, and it's all on Youtube.
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Alrighty then, thanks!
 
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TrueBlue said:
Been out of the gane for pretty much the entirety of the season, DB Super nonwithstanding, so now I'm ready to binge.

What say you GAF? What's been the best of this season? That SukaSuka thing seems to be getting some love here.

Unless it's sarcastic love. I can never quite tell :lol
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If you want to binge something, it has to be Tiger Mask W.
 
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Watching Utena for the first time right now and I don't know what to think of this show right now...

It's very weird but very fun... Formulaic yet very sophisticated...

Man this director is really talented.
 
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PshycoNinja said:
I was about to say. I was about to call you out too. Good thing Cornbread is on it. :D
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:p
as I said to him, I made a note that I might have forgotten some.

and i mean hands down through the first 26 episodes karekano is better than clannad lol.

the last half of clannad is hands down better than karekano though.
 
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firehawk12 said:
The funny thing is that Genshiken came out around the same time and was a somewhat realistic look at being part of a nerd club in college and how you have to grow up...
Then a decade later, Genshiken Nidaime happens and it turns into the Madarame harem show. lol

Watamote is probably the closest thing to a critique of the culture that I've seen in recent years anyway.
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I tend to see Watamote as the point of divergence in an awkward geek's lifetime from where that person may learn to cope and go the Genshiken route, or not, and go the NHK route.
 
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The House in Fata Morgana

I cried. Mutliple times. Damn fine story. Highly recommended.

Death Parade - 1

I never did pick this series up and the first episode was certainly a trip back and forth over who deserved to be damned. Intriguing series, look forward to watching more.

Sabagebu - 2

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Get these girls in Spring Tiger W. Sonokawa is the perfect runt for this show.
 
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My Hero Academia 22

Bakugo too OP; nerf pls.

Seriously, it's annoying that Bakugo is so detestable while at the same time being one of the most powerful of the "hero" cast, in contrast to the detestable side characters such as pervy dude who are just jokes. I'm not saying it's a bad narrative decision - it creates some interesting possibilities in a series that is very aware of public perception of heroes - but it's really frustrating to watch when he keeps winning and I keep not wanting him to.
 
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hosannainexcelsis said:
My Hero Academia 22

Bakugo too OP; nerf pls.

Seriously, it's annoying that Bakugo is so detestable while at the same time being one of the most powerful of the "hero" cast, in contrast to the detestable side characters such as pervy dude who are just jokes. I'm not saying it's a bad narrative decision - it creates some interesting possibilities in a series that is very aware of public perception of heroes - but it's really frustrating to watch when he keeps winning and I keep not wanting him to.
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I've read further than where the anime is and the whole time I kept thinking "this series would be better if Bakugo was either not in it at all or a completely different less shitty character"
 
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Bahabahabaha (Virgin) Soul - Episode 12

This is a good show. I like watching this show. There isn't much to say about this show other than that.

Kado - Episode 11

....why?
 
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Aki-at said:
Death Parade - 1

I never did pick this series up and the first episode was certainly a trip back and forth over who deserved to be damned. Intriguing series, look forward to watching more.

Sabagebu - 2

Get these girls in Spring Tiger W. Sonokawa is the perfect runt for this show.
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You just picked up two very awesome shows. Enjoy!

hosannainexcelsis said:
My Hero Academia 22

Bakugo too OP; nerf pls.

Seriously, it's annoying that Bakugo is so detestable while at the same time being one of the most powerful of the "hero" cast, in contrast to the detestable side characters such as pervy dude who are just jokes. I'm not saying it's a bad narrative decision - it creates some interesting possibilities in a series that is very aware of public perception of heroes - but it's really frustrating to watch when he keeps winning and I keep not wanting him to.
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As you said, I think it creates an interesting dynamic to the show and honestly makes me more invested in Midoriya's story and character development. Same with Bakugo. He's very clearly inspired by Vegeta in some ways.

Line_HTX said:
You rang?
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Lol.

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duckroll said:
Kado - Episode 11

....why?
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Why, indeed. Why are you still watching?
 
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ReCreators - 12

So government endorsed J Stars Victory Vs is the plan to save the world? I'm down for it.

Since Altar hinted to further creations apppearing, I think we can guess from the other characters that appear in the OP who they are.

Valdfellgar said:
God I loved Sabagebu.
I haven't posted in awhile, felt the need to interact in SOME way.
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It's definitely a revealation to me, so many good shows I skipped on in my "anime is dead" phase.

PshycoNinja said:
You just picked up two very awesome shows. Enjoy!
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Don't know if I can manage any more depression after Fata Morgana, I'll try and power on through.
 
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DNAbro

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Iron Blooded Orphans S1 Episode 21


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I have never seen a show so blatantly raise so many death flags for a character. Like damn man, way to make it incredibly obvious that someone was about to die. This show does make it pretty damn easy to tell when someone is about to go. Kind of ruins any shock of it. Earlier ones still felt more impactful than this. Still really enjoying it overall and a bit upset to see the character go.

Also glad they did brought back the first ending for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjgsE_blaOg
 
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MultiJhonny

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Since no one wants to pay for anime strike and they are taking the most anticipated shows for the most part (and Netflix) maybe they are going for the noble goal of destroying anime once and for all?

Fixing the terrible mistake.


I hope Fate/Apocrypha is good
 
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Crimson_Echidna

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DNAbro said:
Iron Blooded Orphans S1 Episode 21





I have never seen a show so blatantly raise so many death flags for a character. Like damn man, way to make it incredibly obvious that someone was about to die. This show does make it pretty damn easy to tell when someone is about to go. Kind of ruins any shock of it. Earlier ones still felt more impactful than this. Still really enjoying it overall and a bit upset to see the character go.

Also glad they did brought back the first ending for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjgsE_blaOg
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Season 2 continues to lay the foreshadow pretty thick. The death scenes are well shot though.
 
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LotusHD

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DNAbro said:
Iron Blooded Orphans S1 Episode 21





I have never seen a show so blatantly raise so many death flags for a character. Like damn man, way to make it incredibly obvious that someone was about to die. This show does make it pretty damn easy to tell when someone is about to go. Kind of ruins any shock of it. Earlier ones still felt more impactful than this. Still really enjoying it overall and a bit upset to see the character go.

Also glad they did brought back the first ending for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjgsE_blaOg
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Raise your death... FLAG!
 
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killer rin

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SukaSuka 12 - Final
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I'm literally bawling right now. I knew it was going to be sad, but not this sad.
Chtholly was hard enough, but Nephren too, she didn't deserve that. Why. WHY! :'(
 
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