xrnzaaas
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You can be unhygienic while wearing speedos as well. This entire board is silly. No smoking, no dogs and for the rest just rely that people will behave.
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New swimming park in France: forbidden to dogs and hijabies.
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Yeah but you generally don't sweat in your speedos all day.You can be unhygienic while wearing speedos as well. This entire board is silly. No smoking, no dogs and for the rest just rely that people will behave.
DiipuSurotu
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Many European people are fine with swim trunks in the pools because they are fit in the first place.
I love my dog but she does not belong on a public beach. Despite your dog, or what you think about your dog, they do piss and shit in sand.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
So pick it up? Like don't get me wrong, if there is a beach with a "no dog" rule that's totally cool and I'm obviously not going to bring the dog.
Otherwise? Hell yeah I'll bring the pup.
Canada and Australia agree with America on this subject. You freaky weirdo Europeans can keep your gross banana hammocks.
Arkage
Banned
The anti-hijab/burqa argument is that the government is trying to mandate public areas as a safe space for liberal leaning Muslim women who don't want to wear traditional garb but are forced to by community or family pressures. Because the government bans it, the community anger is then directed toward the government instead of the individual Muslim women who then enjoy the freedom of not wearing it.
The pro-hijab/burqa argument is that if a community demands their women to wear traditional garb or face ostracization or punishment, and the government bans that garb from public places, the women will then simply be banned from going to those public places altogether. In which case the only end result is further antagonizing the Muslim community.
In the end I think the pro-hijab/burqa argument is most rational. Western nations need to maintain their liberal values of freedom of expression and religion, even if it can be argued there's a kind of stockholm syndrome going on with garb (particularly burqas) that was objectively created to desexualize and subjugate women.
The pro-hijab/burqa argument is that if a community demands their women to wear traditional garb or face ostracization or punishment, and the government bans that garb from public places, the women will then simply be banned from going to those public places altogether. In which case the only end result is further antagonizing the Muslim community.
In the end I think the pro-hijab/burqa argument is most rational. Western nations need to maintain their liberal values of freedom of expression and religion, even if it can be argued there's a kind of stockholm syndrome going on with garb (particularly burqas) that was objectively created to desexualize and subjugate women.
UnemployedVillain
Member
Sorry, we're the land of the free
choice of male swimwear at pools
xrnzaaas
Member
Despite being a dog owner I approve banning dogs from public places. Most dog owners simply can't take care of them properly. Like on the beach they don't mind if the dog poops in the sand, because it's going to get covered anyway lol. Or don't they see a problem that some people might be afraid of dogs or that they may do something (especially the kids) that will trigger a hostile reaction from the dog.
Souldriver
Member
Isn't this a 'no excess of fabric allowed' kind of rule that has existed for basically ever in French swimming pools?
People like to come in their swimming shorts so a specific mention of that clothing is needed. And now also hijabies because people also like to come in the pool wearing that?
People like to come in their swimming shorts so a specific mention of that clothing is needed. And now also hijabies because people also like to come in the pool wearing that?
Always-honest
Banned
Eh.. no. Beards are like the mullets of the 80's. Everybody has one, it seems.
Gotta have clientele.
No dogs is a great rule, by the way.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Swimming shorts are great, you don't have to be from the US to like them
Psychoward
Banned
The hijab ban is dumb but as a dog owner and lover, how are dogs being banned from a swimming pool noteworthy?
NoblesseOblige
Banned
I think it's drawing attention that wearing a Hijab is on the same list as banging your dog to the pool.
BarringGaffner
Member
I was actually approached by a woman in a hijab at a beach in Vancouver, while sitting on a park bench with my wife, and she told us not to hug/touch in public (we were holding hands).
moral of the story: everyone should be allowed on the beach, but also please don't talk to me.
moral of the story: everyone should be allowed on the beach, but also please don't talk to me.
andythinkpad
Member
Putting the hijibes ban in a simplified icon like you see in a map legend is some icing on the cake.
France is very good at offending people.
France is very good at offending people.
MotionBlue
Member
But it also shows scuba gear and sports equipment is banned too. Requiring women to hide themselves is repressive as fuck, so I'm kinda split on the subject.
I'm quoting this because it is a good post.
andythinkpad
Member
I remember seeing other similar news and they were also in France.
Unfortunately it looks like regulations like this will become a common recurrence there
Unfortunately it looks like regulations like this will become a common recurrence there
Not in finland they aren't.
Monochromaticx
Member
> more anti hijab rules from France
> Gulf countries continue spending billions in France anyway
> Gulf countries continue spending billions in France anyway
MistakenMobius
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On GAF the world goes from Seattle to Miami.
IrishNinja
Member
i don't know man, rest of the world seems fine - but there's also the hijab rule so clearly the door's open on adding more dumb policies
i mean christ here's another one
Hey swimming shorts would be the norm in Ireland - probably the UK as well. European is pretty big and varied.
Don't they force people to take naked showers while someone watches in swimming pools there? Or was that Sweden?
Also you dont get the high aground about what women wear being policed by policing what women wear.
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Transhuman
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No drinking wine? In france?
Alx
Member
Despite some clichés and unlike Americans, the French exclusively drink wine during meals.
Well, unless when it's beaujolais season, I guess.
That would be Iceland.
NoblesseOblige
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So is telling women what they can't wear.
Not really, because men are told what they can't wear all the time too. Hiding yourself is reserved just for women. That's what makes it repressive.
You do realise that there are probably millions of muslim women that wear hijabs and other coverings of their own free will, right?
Frankfurter
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Miles Quaritch
Member
People just sweat in them for a couple of hours and the throw them in the drawer until next time because they don't seem 'dirty'
I washed them while I was in the pool...
ClosingADoor
Member
More like not taking bottles and glass with you there I think, to prevent people leaving it there and other stepping on it and such.
is this a common occurrence in public swimming pools?
Ah France swimming pools and parks.
Reminds me of the time I had a huge argument because I couldn't wear my usual shorts style trunks and had to buy a pair of speedos I didn't want before they'd let me in.
The French are really fussed about what's allowed in a swimming pool in my experience on holiday there - so much so last time I spent a week in summer I just found a nice lake and swam in that instead.
That said this sounds fucked if they're restricting the women just in the park itself vs the pool itself.
Reminds me of the time I had a huge argument because I couldn't wear my usual shorts style trunks and had to buy a pair of speedos I didn't want before they'd let me in.
The French are really fussed about what's allowed in a swimming pool in my experience on holiday there - so much so last time I spent a week in summer I just found a nice lake and swam in that instead.
That said this sounds fucked if they're restricting the women just in the park itself vs the pool itself.
-Plasma Reus-
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If wonder why those people hate their country so much, that they are recruited to attack innocents, this is why. The root of all of this is segregation.
Laughing Banana
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Kinda feels like the other article of clothing are just there for camouflage to obscure the real intention of banning evil Muslims terrorists wannabe(tm) from joining on the pool.
-Plasma Reus-
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My fiance wears a hijab, she wears it for herself, despite my protesting, and despite her parents protesting. Your idea of what makes a woman free is incredibly deeply myopic. It is no different than how men view women in the middle East. Why can't you let a woman decide what she wants to wear for herself? Why do we all feel the need to talk about what women should or shouldn't wear?
Alx
Member
Nah banning shorts is the standard rule in most swimming pools of the country (for hygiene reasons, as mentioned earlier). Technically the same rule should exclude de facto all sorts of non-specialized clothings like regular veils I guess (or hats, capes, scarves, ... whatever isn't swimwear) ; but making a specific icon against that is just trying to piss people off.
soundscream
Member
First of all LOL
Second there is mesh netting on the inside to prevent anything like that happening.