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New swimming park in France: forbidden to dogs and hijabies.

Honestly expected somewhere more to the south when I clicked the link. Reading up on the place and its mayor, yeah he's been at it for ages.

Pretty sure it won't hold anyway.
 

Hyun Sai

Member
About the Short VS Speedos, it's more to force the majority of users to change clothes before going into the pool instead of them hopping in with what they wore all day / week / month without washing them.

It may look silly, but it's been effective so far in term of hygiene. And even if the user short is clean, they can't make exceptions for obvious reasons.
 

Vagabundo

Member
About the Short VS Speedos, it's more to force the majority of users to change clothes before going into the pool instead of them hopping in with what they wore all day / week / month without washing them.

It may look silly, but it's been effective so far in term of hygiene. And even if the user short is clean, they can't make exceptions for obvious reasons.

If these guys are jumping in with manky shorts on I doubt their bodies are all that clean to begin with. No such silly restrictions in my pool and I haven't noticed a huge amount of floating pubes.
 
What the fuck are you actually allowed to bring?

No balls, no flippers, no shorts, no speakers, no swimming rings, nothing to drink?

Even though complete freedom does bring out shitheads, I do enjoy living in Bulgaria where you could've brought 10 beers into the swimming park.
 

Clockwork

Member
I think the rule is because of the pubic hair that can get out of loose shorts.

I suppose so. It is the French after all...

In all seriousness though this is ridiculous. This doesn't appear to be a problem anywhere else in the world. I wasn't aware of any pubes in the pool epidemic or something. What about other body hair?
 

CDX

Member
I had no idea places in France actually required the speedo for men.

...I guess ...at least France is consistent for both genders. Excess fabric forbidden for all. No modesty for anyone while swimming.

What strange requirements.
 
About the Short VS Speedos, it's more to force the majority of users to change clothes before going into the pool instead of them hopping in with what they wore all day / week / month without washing them.

It may look silly, but it's been effective so far in term of hygiene. And even if the user short is clean, they can't make exceptions for obvious reasons.

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Goddamn at that sign, you can't do shit at that pool but sit there and look pretty in your speedo. I'm surprised they don't force everyone into two pieces.
 

Elandyll

Banned
French don't care. I literally showed the attendant the mesh inside my swimming trunks. Non was the answer. Speedos or no entry.
Already said many times, but it's not about pubes, or "genitals being in direct contact with water", or about "keeping the pee inside" (that one made me lol hard).

It's about keeping debris and dirt out in case you were treating your swim trunks like casual clothing all day.
 

Purkake4

Banned
Already said many times, but it's not about pubes, or "genitals being in direct contact with water", or about "keeping the pee inside" (that one made me lol hard).

It's about keeping debris and dirt out in case you were treating your swim trunks like casual clothing all day.
Also about not being weird prudes about it.
 

Ishan

Junior Member
title is misleading. Its a sign showing all things not allowed.

plus doesnt france have an ultra secular outlook where they ban almost all ostentatious religious clothing in public. I remember sikhs having issues with their turbans in some french high schools or something.

I dont consider this utterly disgusting unlike others as long as its flows over to any christian hindu etc religious symbols also. there should be equality of the ban. Having said that im unsure if this is the correct path. But definitely not some utter disgust of it.
 
I had no idea places in France actually required the speedo for men.

...I guess ...at least France is consistent for both genders. Excess fabric forbidden for all. No modesty for anyone while swimming.

What strange requirements.

You don't have to wear a speedo. You can wear boxer-brief type swimwear like Daniel Craig in Casino Royale.
 

Zaph

Member
Nobody should have to be subjected to the sight of me in a speedo. I don't know if I'd ever have the opportunity to go to a pool in France, but now I'll know to avoid it.

Try swim briefs, they're a good middle-ground.


Can't speak for this particular pool, but a private pool near me doesn't want excessive clothing in the pool (anything you could feasibly wear outside) as they like to keep the chemical levels lower for a more comfortable swim.
 

mantidor

Member
Also about not being weird prudes about it.

This is my conclusion here as well, I didn't know Americans were so body self-conscious.

And shorts are terrible for swimming anyway. Are there even actual swimming shorts? Like, made with the specific purpose of swimming and only swimming?
 

Piers

Member
Try swim briefs, they're a good middle-ground.



Can't speak for this particular pool, but a private pool near me doesn't want excessive clothing in the pool (anything you could feasibly wear outside) as they like to keep the chemical levels lower for a more comfortable swim.

This photo tells me that a six pack and tan is necessary to acceptably wear them.
 

Alucrid

Banned
This is my conclusion here as well, I didn't know Americans were so body self-conscious.

And shorts are terrible for swimming anyway. Are there even actual swimming shorts? Like, made with the specific purpose of swimming and only swimming?

i mean i wore speedos or jammers or whatever for swim teams. where drag actually matters. if you're already required to take a shower before entering the pool wouldn't rinsing off your swim shorts make this whole kerfuffle null?
 
No one gonna integrate covered in a burqa.

There is less than 1.000 women wearing niqab (burqa is inexistent) in France and there is a big proportion of convert. So if we speak about a cultural integration, how a french woman from french parents can "integrate" ? If we speak about social integration, everybody have the right to be weird and distinct/reclusive. Religion is not a culture, it dosen't need to integrate. If you can be a ultra-orthodox jewish person not touching electricity every saturday and dressing like a 19th century eastern-european, you can wear a niqab. The right to be weird should be a human right.

Also, the subject of the thread is the ban against hijab and not niqab, the niqab is already banned nationwide.
 

Ishan

Junior Member
There is less than 1.000 women wearing niqab (burqa is inexistent) in France and there is a big proportion of convert. So if we speak about a cultural integration, how a french woman from french parents can "integrate" ? If we speak about social integration, everybody have the right to be weird and distinct/reclusive.

Also, the subject of the thread is the ban against hijab and not niqab, the niqab is already banned nationwide.

stems from the notion of being "french" so others integrate into "french" culture. Anything this whole thing is a very slippery slope to what extent you want your society to change whats considered growing and adapting whats considered losing out your heritage etc etc. Complex issues.

I personally am not for imposing religion on ppl. However cultural things are more complex imo. difficult issue and very sensitive to many ppl
 
stems from the notion of being "french" so others integrate into "french" culture. Anything this whole thing is a very slippery slope to what extent you want your society to change whats considered growing and adapting whats considered losing out your heritage etc etc. Complex issues.

I personally am not for imposing religion on ppl. However cultural things are more complex imo. difficult issue and very sensitive to many ppl

The issue is that i lived 22 years in Paris and i never was able to distinguish something as "the french culture" per se. It's so cosmopolitan. The only time we heard about "the need to integrate" is when we speak about hijab/niqab.
 
No one gonna integrate covered in a burqa.
Burqa is banned though. Hijab is banned in schools and government functions in France as are other religious influences. But you should still be allowed to just wear it anywhere when not in government function, that is your own choice.

The whole beaches thing in France is a bit strange. The burkini ban, and now this. Although even muslim countries have some problems with it. I think some places in Morocco banned it also, and in Lebanon you can also deny people entry if they wear it. But those are private property I think, so dress codes can be maintained. Opinions about it are all over the place, so we'll probably see it pop up from time to time in the news.

This particular beach seems to be public, so they should be more open to all. If France wants to be strict about what to wear inside the pool, fine. But if you are just sitting next to it (for example visiting with your family) I don't see any reason to enforce a dress code for it.
 

Switch Back 9

a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
The illegal bylaw has now been removed.

Legal proceedings against the bylaw was therefore automatically dropped.

Several criminal lawsuits are still ongoing.

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https://www.francebleu.fr/infos/fai...tte-retire-son-arrete-anti-burkini-1498960310

Now patiently awaiting for 3 pages of comments on how French justice and secularism worked as exptected and intented :)

I'm still stuck on this no shorts thing. I've been wearing boardies my whole life, I ain't changing for nobody!

I'm going to bring my dog to the beach with my boardies on and if any Muslim ladies want to join they can wear whatever they want to.
 
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