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Final Fantasy Creator Hironobu Sakaguchi Comments on FFXV and Tabata's Future Project

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Night Hunter

Banned
Honestly, if they don't bring Ito out of retirement soon the man is actually gonna retire. He's been with Square since 1987, he hast to be at least 55 years old. The Gooch is 54 but dropped out of College.

Even if Ito is actually working on something right now, he has 2 games in him, at most. Unless he just ignores retirement ... afair weirder things have happened in Japan and the games industry in general.

BTW: Everyone in here saying it will be Toriyama on XVI, you are bad people and I hope you are ashamed of yourselves!
 
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DiipuSurotu

Banned
Night Hunter said:
Honestly, if they don't bring Ito out of retirement soon the man is actually gonna retire. He's been with Square since 1987, he hast to be at least 55 years old. The Gooch is 54 but dropped out of College.

Even if Ito is actually working on something right now, he has 2 games in him, at most. Unless he just ignores retirement ... afair weirder things have happened in Japan and the games industry in general.

BTW: Everyone in here saying it will be Toriyama on XVI, you are bad people and I hope you are ashamed of yourselves!
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Hiroyuki Ito was 37 years old in 2000, so 54 this year.

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Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Eh...i get that they are friends and he wants to defend him, but the less said about the result of FF15, the better IMO

Making a movie out of critical parts of the revised story were the worst thing
 
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Slater

Banned
Inuhanyou said:
Eh...i get that they are friends and he wants to defend him, but the less said about the result of FF15, the better IMO

Making a movie out of critical parts of the revised story were the worst thing
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Funny enough, none of this critical parts of the insomnia invasion are in this concept art either.....
 
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Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Slater said:
Funny enough, none of this critical parts of the insomnia invasion are in this concept art either.....
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Yeah. i wonder when the invasion got scrapped from development, definitely after the 2011 trailer showcasing it being playable...we even saw snippets of said invasion in 2013 and even 2014.
 
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HeelPower

Member
Will not buy any Tabata game on launch.

Crisis Core,Turd Birthday,Type-0, and FFXV.

Proof enough to me that this director's games are not for me.
 
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Bulby

Member
Ill give him credit for landing that flaming wreck with some finesse. It was a fun game all in all. But no where near a classic Final Fantasy.
 
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wmlk

Member
The final game had a lot of shortcomings. Yet, Tabata went from developing Type-0 to developing something with the gargantuan scope of Final Fantasy XV. You'd expect it to be rough, and people were wary of Tabata because of it (his past games weren't perfect either).

Yet, he's made a ton of ground with developing this one game with a broken engine. He and his team should be ready now to tackle a big AAA game with all the know-how from FFXV.

I want to have really high hopes for Tabata's next game. Maybe this time he doesn't have to handle an anime, two mobile games, a feature-length CG movie, with 10 years of baggage and can focus on making just the game great while addressing his past failures with FFXV.
 
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Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
HeelPower said:
Will not buy any Tabata game on launch.

Crisis Core,Turd Birthday,Type-0, and FFXV.

Proof enough to me that this director's games are not for me.
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To be fair, Crisis core was a good game IMO, Tabata did a great job there. Granted its one project, but it was handled well
 
ULTROS!

ULTROS!

People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Weren't 3rd Birthday and Type-0 initially mobile projects and both of them also took time to get released because they had boatloads of problems? I know Type-0 was almost cancelled at one point.
 
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Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
ULTROS! said:
Weren't 3rd Birthday and Type-0 initially mobile projects and both of them also took time to get released because they had boatloads of problems? I know Type-0 was almost cancelled at one point.
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they were, but that doesn't have any bearing on the outcome
 
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AlexFlame116

Member
I like Tabata, Nomura, Toriyama (when he's not in his Lightning phase), Ito, Matsuno, Nojima (except for his 2.5 thing), and YoshiP!

They all bring their quirks.

I feel like I forgot someone.
 
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Slater

Banned
AlexFlame116 said:
I like Tabata, Nomura, Toriyama (when he's not in his Lightning phase), Nojima (except for his 2.5 thing), and YoshiP!

They all bring their quirks.

I feel like I forgot someone.
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Ito quietly cleans the bathroom and Matsuno rocks back n forth in the psych office dealing with his director PTSD
 
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Wagram

Member
I'm definitely up for a spin off FF by Tabata, but I don't really think he has the chops to do a mainline entry again.
 
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Slater

Banned
Wagram said:
I'm definitely up for a spin off FF by Tabata, but I don't really think he has the chops to do a mainline entry again.
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I'm pretty convinced he always just wanted to work on "Type Next" and got roped into Versus/XV more or less against his will
 
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jb1234

Member
I gave the game a 7/10 right when I finished it but looking back on it, my memories mostly aren't fond. I think I overlooked a lot of the game's most egregious flaws because it's a FF and I'm a fanboy. The disappointing DLCs have just emphasized how shallow the cast is.

I think Sakaguchi says exactly what you'd expect him (or anyone) to say about a colleague's project where he knows he can't speak candidly. Very polite, very professional.
 
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Squire

Banned
JeffZero said:
Matsuno left Square like 11 years ago.
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He's freelance, but it seems like he's willing to work with them contractually. He loves XIV (which isn't surprising for a variety of reasons) and he's working on an Ivalice storyline for that, you might recall.

I don't see him directing an FF again, but they could certainly afford to consult him for the story, if nothing else.
 
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JeffZero

Purple Drazi
Slater said:
So did Nojima but we still have him NTR'ing Tidus and blowing him up with a Biltzball
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True.

The fact that this somehow gives me hope marks this as truly the darkest timeline.

jb1234 said:
I gave the game a 7/10 right when I finished it but looking back on it, my memories mostly aren't fond. I think I overlooked a lot of the game's most egregious flaws because it's a FF and I'm a fanboy. The disappointing DLCs have just emphasized how shallow the cast is.
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I understand, heh. I need to replay the game once all the DLCs are out before I'm comfortable assigning it a score, but right now, it doesn't look great.

Squire said:
He's freelance, but it seems like he's willing to work with them contractually. He loves XIV (which isn't surprising for a variety of reasons) and he's working on an Ivalice storyline for that, you might recall.

I don't see him directing an FF again, but they could certainly afford to consult him for the story, if nothing else.
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I'd love for that to happen. I'd also love more Ogre stuff, too.
 
mortal

mortal

Gold Member
Ahasverus said:
Tabata deserves to make XVI from the ground up. Versus XIII was unsalvageable.
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No thank you.

I don't think he's a very good director. It should take much more than being able to ship a title to be considered a good game director.
 
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AlexFlame116

Member
Slater said:
So did Nojima but we still have him NTR'ing Tidus and blowing him up with a Biltzball
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I don't think it was Tidus. It was some new person.
Somnium said:
No thank you.

I don't think he's a very good director. It should take much more than being able to ship a title to be considered a good game director.
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Gotta do what you gotta do when it comes to salvaging almost 7 years of content into one title only to have fans spit at you for not making Nomura's Versus.
 
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AmayaPapaya

Banned
The only final fantasy game I played before was 4 on the ds. As a kinda newcomer to the series, I like FF15 a lot! People I know irl liked it a lot too, so, outside the fans, I think it enjoyed a great word of mouth.

Characters were some of the best around, the gameplay was fun when it worked (which was ~80% of the time), and the story was serviceable, despite being totally disjointed. I really liked the ending.

I hope for a FFXV-2, as unlikely as it is (I'm not even sure where they could go). 15 was a beautiful mess. I would like to see a cohesive vision tied to it.
 
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Golnei

Member
AlexFlame116 said:
What if they all made a game together? Would it have an ending that was sad and emotional but also extremely confusing and won't be explained until the sequel (maybe) and then after the credits feature Lightning with some new armor holding a rose and reading Loveless approaching the main cast?
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So XIII-2 was always the culmination of the best S-E's finest creative minds have to offer?
 
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Bladenic

Member
I won't even get into overall quality of games, but Tabata's games all have the same issue regarding their storytelling and suffer immensely as a result in the story/plot/character department.

So whatever he does next, I won't expect anything to change regarding the storytelling methods, and as such, I'm sure the story will be pure shit.
 
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AlexFlame116

Member
Golnei said:
So XIII-2 was always the culmination of the best S-E's finest creative minds have to offer?
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Ah but did Lightning read Loveless?
Bladenic said:
I won't even get into overall quality of games, but Tabata's games all have the same issue regarding their storytelling and suffer immensely as a result in the story/plot/character department.

So whatever he does next, I won't expect anything to change regarding the storytelling methods, and as such, I'm sure the story will be pure shit.
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....no no I won't start. It's getting late so I better not.
 
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sora87

Member
The more I think about XV i realise the gameplay was fun, graphics good and the music for the most part was great but everything else was rubbish.
 
longdi

longdi

Banned
Tabata is a shit director, leaving all the wrong scenes in the cutting floor.

I get there is a call for less rigid narration and for more player's imagination, but Tabata has been exposed to be an absolute amateur at that.

Toriyama and Nojima sucks too.

Get back Ito/Matsuno, yes please.
 
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Mister Megative

Banned
I like Tabata. Seems like a really decent human being. I've played every single FF title ever made, and XV is my second favorite behind VI, so I'd be fine with him working on XVI. Be interesting to see where the battle system goes from here.
 
SoraNoKuni

SoraNoKuni

Member
Well his 2 most famous directed games are a mess.
I don't think I can really trust this guy but I will give him a chance to prove me wrong.
 
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theofficefan99

Junior Member
With any Tabata game, you can expect:

-Time skips at extremely inappropriate moments
-Tons of obviously questionable design decisions that prove that there really aren't any higher-ups that oversee projects and say "hmmm... sounds like a bad idea. Are you trying to actively sabotage your game?" Like the DMW, for instance. A universally panned mechanic.
-An obvious lack of care when it comes to writing
-A very short main story that feels very segmented that is inflated by trying to waste your time at any given opportunity


Seriously, you can find all of these flaws in every single Tabata game.


I have played and bought all 4 games he's directed at full price.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm pretty sure I'm done giving him a chance. He has given me numerous opportunities to prove to me how incompetent he is.
 
K

Kanann

Member
Arkeband said:
This is really on point, and I'd even add that Persona 5 proved that turn based mechanics aren't a thing of the past.

Hopefully DQ11 puts the last nail in that hot take's coffin.
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Ah, heard someone mention DQ11 :)

You'll be blow away by this game contents and story arcs ;)
 
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