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Wkd BO 06•30-07•02•17 - Audiences want the D3, don't put Baby in corner but 2nd,

So this is when the revolution starts?

THAT'S WHAT THE DRIVER WAS FOR

The revolution is not to be televised. Or tweeted. Oh wait, they still got their mobile connections. ABORT!

Also, I don't really like Jahns or even the setup used by What The Flick, that I'm currently checking as per recommendation. Something about that voice pattern is really grating to me. I'll stick with the cynical misanthropes, I guess.
 

Toa TAK

Banned
I'm going to give Toa TAK's post an










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#blessed

That must be a good score based on the wiki.
 

kswiston

Member
THAT'S WHAT THE DRIVER WAS FOR

The revolution is not to be televised. Or tweeted. Oh wait, they still got their mobile connections. ABORT!

The revolution was short lived. My connection was back up a half hour after I posted my complaining. It's like when you take your car into the mechanic, and the issue it was having for weeks magically disappears when they start it up.
 

Sulik2

Member
I mean, lets be perfectly clear

The underlying truth of all my criticisms of YouTube personalities is that they stem from a burning white-hot (un)professional envy of their success, and outreach, and their bountiful harvesting of an easily entertained, easily fed audience of rubes who can't wait to be parted from $5-10 bucks a month in patreon money to support my "work."

That I dress this shameful haterism up in respectable clothes and present it as impartial analysis does nothing to hide the roiling ocean of jealousy that is always less than a centimeter away from backing up my entire digestive system from the gall-bladder to my tonsils.

I'd back your patreon.
 
Wow at that drop for Despicable Me 3. I guess Minions weak reception and franchise fatique actually hurt, more then I was even expecting.

Also lol at that Transformers drop. Paramount will still try to go through with that Bumblebee spinoff though, since they're desperate.
 

pixelation

Member
Are the transformers done for the time being?, i hope they are and that they finally kick Bay out. And please re-design them... for the good.
 

pixelation

Member
I'd say 3-4 years in they'll be back. Maybe a reboot. Maybe continuing the current story line

I hope it's a reboot and that no one from the current movies is involved, same with the turtles! (please re-design the turtles, they are atrocious looking in the new ones).
 

Busty

Banned
Yes $400M is in play. This is the most unexpected superhero run since Spider-Man 1.

Wow, if only someone had called it perfectly.

Oh wait, someone did.

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It's still good!!!!! :p

The Promise easily wins. $8M domestic on a $90M budget.

Runners up include King Arthur and Ghost in the Shell.

Somewhere
Geostorm
is stroking a white cat by a window that overlooks the Hollywood Hills and is smiling.

"Soon", it says under it's breath, "sooooooon".
 

Shaanyboi

Banned
It really helps that he puts almost all of his focus on the film, and the content of the film, and not a whole bunch of time/energy focusing on and feeding into really dumb & uninformed narratives about how movies get made for the sake of promoting and reinforcing cynical horseshit that only exists to pat the audience on the back for being "too cool & smart" to get chewed up by the "obvious" machinations of the powers that be, all of which doesn't actually do anything so far as educating the audience, or enlightening them, but instead seems to do not much more than build insular cliques of self-congratulatory meme-traders that will buy overpriced shitty T-shirts as a means to express their collective individuality

*slow clap*
 

kswiston

Member
Japan still like the Pirates franchise. Pirates 5 opened big there, and may end up pretty close to the 4th film in local currency. Pirates 4 would have made $80M in Japan with today's rates.

Even if legs aren't as good, Pirates 5 is probably looking at $775M+ for its worldwide finish.

EDIT: Pirates 4 would have been under $850M with current exchange rates, so this result is actually quite good overseas.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
Did the RLM guys have anything to say in regards to WW? I remember that being included in the endlesstrash.gif that got spammed for a few months in every BO thread.

The only video review guys I follow is Double Toasted. I dig the fact that they aren't monolithic in their reviews and will often disagree vehemently even amongst each other.

Their review was pretty positive.

While they liked it, they also (once again) demonstrate that they view things through a very narrow, white dude from the midwest standpoint. They go on an extended digression about how dumb it is for anyone to look up to Wonder Woman, of any age, and simply don't demonstrate any understanding at all about why it's important to have a strong female superhero film at last. They don't think representation in film matters. They've been catered to hand over fist and are totally blind to it and are ignorant to why WW matters so much.
 

kswiston

Member
Last chance to get your Spider-Man Homecoming predictions in. Later in this thread, I'll go back and round up the predictions for some of the recent films to see how people did.
 

Random Human

They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
While they liked it, they also (once again) demonstrate that they view things through a very narrow, white dude from the midwest standpoint. They go on an extended digression about how dumb it is for anyone to look up to Wonder Woman, of any age, and simply don't demonstrate any understanding at all about why it's important to have a strong female superhero film at last. They don't think representation in film matters. They've been catered to hand over fist and are totally blind to it and are ignorant to why WW matters so much.
That's disappointing to hear. I guess their Ghostbusters review wasn't a one-off.
 
The Apatow entourage and Ex-mid 2000's SNLer Hollywood comedy coalition, sorority.. whatever you want to call it.. needs to be broken up.

Let someone else do a fucking comedy for gods sakes. Audiences have caught on and nobody finds these guys shticks funny anymore.

Dildo light saber battles with a celebrity may have been funny in 2006 but this shit is old as fuck. Stop remaking Pinapple Express every year. That movie was barely even good nearly a decade ago and they continue to just push out comedy after comedy that's a variation of that, the 40 Year Old Virgin, or the Hang Over. Every single year.

Do something new and let new people who actually have ideas of what constitutes as good comedy beyond getting whatever washed up famous person you can get to sign karaoke in the middle of a cocain bust or something.
 
That's disappointing to hear. I guess their Ghostbusters review wasn't a one-off.

Their Force Awakens review suggested that kids don't give a shit about representation so the concern about increasing it is a false one.

They 100% believe that inclusivity in genre filmmaking is a fabricated, trendy, fad being pursued for no other reason than it might increase corporate margins, and as such, pursuing it can only do damage to the purity of whatever story is fighting to get through the machine and into your waiting, loving arms.

(basically, their status as failed independent filmmakers in the View Askew vein pretty much colors the large majority of their views & commentary on the business side, which instead of ignoring or minimizing in their critiques, is now almost entirely the standpoint from which they launch almost all of their criticisms)

They don't really review movies as much as they watch movies as a means to reinforce their myopic/cynical views on how the industry works. The films succeed not for how they do what they do, but for how the people who made them managed to defeat the studio process.

It turns watching movies into fantasy football, basically.

Do something new and let new people who actually have ideas of what constitutes as good comedy beyond getting whatever washed up famous person you can get to sign karaoke in the middle of a cocain bust or something.

I feel like comedy might be the genre that is most being hurt by "Peak TV" or whatever, because there is so much inventive, interesting, incisive, and flat-out-fucking-hilarious shit showing up there that it almost seems redundant & unnecessary to try and replicate it on the big screen.

Like, when you have stuff like Master of None, Fleabag, Chewing Gum, You're the Worst, Broad City... why would you watch a stretched out, watered down lesser version of the goods at 12 bucks a whack?
 
I just moved all my furniture into my apartment and you guys are spouting off way too many numbers stop it helpsdlspdlax;sdkfsdsjflask
 
I mean, I'm not the only person to never read a review anymore yet actively seek Double Toasted, Gremlinproduction (cinemasnob), RLM, and even Angry Joe videos on 'just how bad is it' after 2016 thought us all to never trust reviews of movies ever again.

I'd much, much rather read a good writer talking about a movie than listen to a middling at best (and honestly usually shitty) Youtuber talk about one. I was lucky to live in a town that had Siskel and Ebert as the newspaper reviewers for most of my formative years, so I actually got to consistently read/enjoy good movie reviews.
 

AndyVirus

Member
I'm looking forward to the Wonder Woman vs Pirates 5 late game.

Last chance to get your Spider-Man Homecoming predictions in. Later in this thread, I'll go back and round up the predictions for some of the recent films to see how people did.

Opening weekend DOM: 111m
Total DOM: 303m

Total WW: 888m
 

Ridley327

Member
I'd much, much rather read a good writer talking about a movie than listen to a middling at best (and honestly usually shitty) Youtuber talk about one. I was lucky to live in a town that had Siskel and Ebert as the newspaper reviewers for most of my formative years, so I actually got to consistently read/enjoy good movie reviews.

I do wonder how either of them would react to where internet criticism has gone. Siskel died just before the internet really took off as a major public forum, but Ebert hung around long enough to actually be something of a pioneer for online-only reviews as his condition worsened, along with trying to move At the Movies to being the first big review show for online audiences.
 

Chamber

love on your sleeve
Are the transformers done for the time being?, i hope they are and that they finally kick Bay out. And please re-design them... for the good.

They aren't giving up on Transformers after 1 disappointment. What else is Paramount going to rely on, Star Trek?
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Last chance to get your Spider-Man Homecoming predictions in. Later in this thread, I'll go back and round up the predictions for some of the recent films to see how people did.

$117m OW
$322m DOM
$875m WW
 
I feel like comedy might be the genre that is most being hurt by "Peak TV" or whatever, because there is so much inventive, interesting, incisive, and flat-out-fucking-hilarious shit showing up there that it almost seems redundant & unnecessary to try and replicate it on the big screen.

Like, when you have stuff like Master of None, Fleabag, Chewing Gum, You're the Worst, Broad City... why would you watch a stretched out, watered down lesser version of the goods at 12 bucks a whack?
Yeah that's true. TV is great now but I think it is made redundant by Hollywood trying to somewhat emulate the long running character driven style comedy that works for comedy shows right now more so than the one off zany concepts that worked better in the 80s, 90s, early 2000s etc

Like TV is nailing it now because so many shows are good at developing the cast over time and it seems to me like this is what they are basically attempting by putting the same people in basically every movie. Even if the characters aren't the same they are hoping it somehow excites people to see the same dudes in different situations

Problem is I don't think any of the regulars who feature have a fraction of the charisma or likability factor that Jim Carrey, Chris Farely and other big Hollywood comedy stars used to have. I think Will Farrell had some of that special magic at one point but he's long since lost it.

I think if they are going to keep pushing the same formula they need to come up with people who are actually funny and likable and can make something out of nothing just with their screen presence
 
I do wonder how either of them would react to where internet criticism has gone. Siskel died just before the internet really took off as a major public forum, but Ebert hung around long enough to actually be something of a pioneer for online-only reviews as his condition worsened, along with trying to move At the Movies to being the first big review show for online audiences.

I feel like Ebert definitely would have adapted, as he was pretty much already doing so before he passed. Like, I could see Ebert starting up a film podcast and getting basically everyone you would ever want to talk about movies with him. Hell, I could see him doing one with Rob Schneider just for the fun of it. Which reminds me that I haven't actually gone to his site in a while, which is sad because the few times I've been I've still liked the writing there.
 
Yeah that's true. TV is great now but I think it is made redundant by Hollywood trying to somewhat emulate the long running character driven style comedy that works for comedy shows right now more so than the one off zany concepts that worked better in the 80s, 90s, early 2000s etc

Like TV is nailing it now because so many shows are good at developing the cast over time and it seems to me like this is what they are basically attempting by putting the same people in basically every movie. Even if the characters aren't the same they are hoping it somehow excites people to see the same dudes in different situations

Problem is I don't think any of the regulars who feature have a fraction of the charisma or likability factor that Jim Carrey, Chris Farely and other big Hollywood comedy stars used to have. I think Will Farrell had some of that special magic at one point but he's long since lost it.

I think if they are going to keep pushing the same formula they need to come up with people who are actually funny and likable and can make something out of nothing just with their screen presence

Kevin Hart seems to do all right.
 
Their Force Awakens review suggested that kids don't give a shit about representation so the concern about increasing it is a false one.

I can't remember the specifics about their Ghostbusters review, but it was the only one of theirs I watched and I remember leaving the video feeling like it wasn't so much of a critique of the film, but rather a critique of everything that surrounded them. As someone who didn't care for the film as much as I wanted to due to comedy reasons, I remember their review still leaving a sour taste in my mouth.

A buddy of mine who watches them echoed some critique that they (I think it was them) had about the mummy in The Mummy being female and I remember thinking how absurd of a critique that felt in a film that probably has dozens of legitimate things to be worthy of criticizing already.
 

Shaanyboi

Banned
Their Force Awakens review suggested that kids don't give a shit about representation so the concern about increasing it is a false one.
I mean they made a similar remark in their AOTC review about the inclusion of Samuel L Jackson and how it was really some pandering attempt or something...

Either way, their suspicious gaze towards the spotlighting of any non-white dude always comes off pretty poorly. Even their Alien Covenant review had to be sprinkled with an awkward "Well I guess Ripley isn't special anymore since another woman is the center of this movie." Like... there's plenty to knock Covenant for. Is that really the shot you wanna make?
 
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