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[PSqueak]

HR even mentioned that one time.

I forget why he's called HR.

It's a joke about him being a writer.

H. R. Wells.

Anyways! Season 3 does feel a bit underwhelming compared to S1 and S2, but not really too bad.

And about dirt bike: sadly this is a constant problem with Flash in any media, writers will always make him as fast, or slow, as the plot requires.

*cue that comic panel where fucking destroke impales the flash's leg*

 

[LotusHD]

I watched the first episode today and it seemed like cheap, cheesy garbage. Is it supposed to get better?

The CW is the CW (Outside of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, that show is weirdly legit) at the end of the day. If you're not already into superhero/comic book stuff, then don't bother.

 

[y2dvd]

"Can we talk?"

"I need to talk to you."

"I'll go talk to him."

"I'll go talk to her."

"Can I have a second?"

"Give us a minute."

"Can we talk in private?"

"You should talk to her!"

"You should talk to him!"

"I need to talk to you...alone."

 

[PSqueak]

"Can we talk?"

"Can we talk in private?"

"I need to talk to you...alone."

Mostly annoying in the sense that it's a series where characters keeping secrets from each other constantly screw them over and yet they keep making the mistake of keeping things secret.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

"Can we talk?"

"I need to talk to you."

"I'll go talk to him."

"I'll go talk to her."

"Can I have a second?"

"Give us a minute."

"Can we talk in private?"

"You should talk to her!"

"You should talk to him!"

"I need to talk to you...alone."

Once I noticed this, it became really hard to get through episodes. Sometimes they do it in scene back to back to back. This and the Barry gets knocked down by villain, they disappear, and he just lays there in awe before cutting to commercial break.

 

[LotusHD]

"Can we talk?"

"I need to talk to you."

"I'll go talk to him."

"I'll go talk to her."

"Can I have a second?"

"Give us a minute."

"Can we talk in private?"

"You should talk to her!"

"You should talk to him!"

"I need to talk to you...alone."

You forgot "I got this."

 

[Keym]

Mostly annoying in the sense that it's a series where characters keeping secrets from each other constantly screw them over and yet they keep making the mistake of keeping things secret.

They don't even talk about secrets or anything. I wish! It's always relationship stuff or someone's feelings or Barry being depressed because blah blah.

Bring back season 1's greatness, but without any more evil speedsters.

 

[Escape Goat]

So hard to balance a hero with super speed and keep things interesting. The show requires a lot of suspension of disbelief.

Barry could take out every bad guy without a problem. But he's got to stop and square off so the bad guy and talk cuz it's a TV show. If he had just super sped in, put hand cuffs on them before they even knew he was there he could get hone to nasturbate to his sister.

 

[Rooster12]

I watched all of season 1 and had a fun, if mostly forgettable, time with it. Made it a few episodes into season 2 and then it just fell completely out of my regular rotation and I haven't been back since. I think my biggest problem with all of these CW comic hero shows are the damn 23 episode seasons. You just can't maintain consistent quality and interest over that many episodes. There's gonna be alot of filler. I would much rather have 10 or 13 really solid episodes a season, but I'm sure I'm a minority there.

A show can be 23 episodes long if they just drop over-arching storylines and do short arcs instead, like in a comic book. From what I hear Agent of Shield is doing this.

If you reduce a Superhero show like the Flash down to 10 episodes a season, then it wouldn't be much of a superhero show. He has a rogues gallery, you want to see him fight those guys on the screen week to week, that's why it's a superhero show in the first place. It's just a matter of doing it well, give the villains proper development instead of the same old concept. One awful thing the show does is that they bring in new villains who has NOTHING to do with the Flash (King Shark, Rupture, Atom Smasher, Killer Frost, Hannibal Bates etc...), instead of wasting an episode on those guys, why not just use Flash's regular rogues and give them good character development instead and go from there.

For a show with crazy time traveling and dimensional hopping concepts, they still play it way too safe.

 

[jm89]

"Can we talk?"

"I need to talk to you."

"I'll go talk to him."

"I'll go talk to her."

"Can I have a second?"

"Give us a minute."

"Can we talk in private?"

"You should talk to her!"

"You should talk to him!"

"I need to talk to you...alone."

"You lied to me"

 

[Slayven]

A show can be 23 episodes long if they just drop over-arching storylines and do short arcs instead, like in a comic book. From what I hear Agent of Shield is doing this.

If you reduce a Superhero show like the Flash down to 10 episodes a season, then it wouldn't be much of a superhero show. He has a rogues gallery, you want to see him fight those guys on the screen week to week, that's why it's a superhero show in the first place. It's just a matter of doing it well, give the villains proper development instead of the same old concept. One awful thing the show does is that they bring in new villains who has NOTHING to do with the Flash (King Shark, Rupture, Atom Smasher, Killer Frost, Hannibal Bates etc...), instead of wasting an episode on those guys, why not just use Flash's regular rogues and give them good character development instead and go from there.

For a show with crazy time traveling and dimensional hopping concepts, they still play it way too safe.

Yep AoS peacing is perfect. Nothing over stays it welcome but it still manages to bring all the things that happen in the season together to pay off

 

[Unspeakable Evil]

I think Barry and Wally vs dude on motorcycle might be the most terribly written use of super speed.

 

[Stallion Dan]

Legends was the only CW superhero show that didn't suck latest season, and it was a short season.

Maybe spreading themselves too thin with too many shows and too many episodes.

 

[LotusHD]

Legends was the only CW superhero show that didn't suck latest season, and it was a short season.

Maybe spreading themselves too thin with too many shows and too many episodes.

Arrow didn't suck either. That said, it barely got away with its 23 episode season. The Arrowverse shows all really need to do multiple arcs.

 

[EYEL1NER]

S3 of Flash was definitely weak but I just marathoned all of Arrow in a very short timespan and am super-hyped for Flash, Legends, and now Arrow to start up again.

 

[Brannon]

Talk In the STAR Labs Hallway: Season 3 has some high points. You know.

Like the requisite musical episode to add a bit of joviality when things just got way too depressing (and then fuck all that the very next episode).

We should all be thankful for the good things!

Like Joe singing!

 

[abundant]

Yep AoS peacing is perfect. Nothing over stays it welcome but it still manages to bring all the things that happen in the season together to pay off

Yep. Gotham does the same thing, more or less, and it works. I wish the Arrowverse shows would adopt a similar style.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

I haven't watched it but one thing I'll give The Flash (from what I've seen from gifs) over Agents of SHIELD is that the camera work is much more interesting.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

My favorite part is a guy who can run faster than lightning is too slow to stop people from firing their guns.

It's kind of dumb.

Plus 20+ episodes is obviously stretching the writer's imagination.

Give these shows to Netflix or Starz or HBO.

 

[GravityInsanity]

Yep. Gotham does the same thing, more or less, and it works. I wish the Arrowverse shows would adopt a similar style.

I still watch Gotham but only on Netflix. Still waiting on season 3 to make its way there.

 

[Permanently A]

Name me like five flash episodes to watch. I'll never watch the whole series.

Season 1 only

1. Pilot
9. The Man in the Yellow Suit
15. Out of Time
19. Who is Harrison Wells?
20. The Trap
23. Fast Enough

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

reminder that barry fucks his sister

But who wouldn't with a sister like that?

 

[FlashbladeGAF]

S3 of Flash was definitely weak but I just marathoned all of Arrow in a very short timespan and am super-hyped for Flash, Legends, and now Arrow to start up again.

You still got time to watch Supergirl!

Once youve done that, then your arrow-verse will be complete.

 

[Jazzy Network]

Supergirl is so bad. Please don't watch it.

 

[kurahador]

In Supergirl, Krypton apparently has a neighboring planet where its inhabitants are literally jocks. Shit is terrible.

 

[Freshmaker]

Oh hell. I forgot about that. Damnit.

YOU CAN'T LOCK UP THE DARKNESS!

Ok well then. Spikes through the legs attached to manacles don't matter.

 

[CloudWolf]

i'll always remember how barry just gave his speedforce to Zoom while he had no more hostage at all

the dumbest and funniest thing i've seen on this show!

I liked it when Cisco casually made a gun that turns everything into gold.

 

[EYEL1NER]

You still got time to watch Supergirl!

Once youve done that, then your arrow-verse will be complete.

My daughter loves Supergirl, so we did start watching it on Netflix around the time S2 started. We made it a few episodes in, then it just became me watching it by myself, and then I stopped in favor of something else. One of the things I liked was that most everyone in the main cast knows Kara is Supergirl right off the bat, outside of Ally McBeal, so there seemed to be a lot less "You lied to me!" and "I'm tired of all the lies!" and "I know your sorry, but I can't trust you and am done being lied to." I had enough of it from Iris by the end of S1 of Flash, and then had to slog through it from Thea AND AND Moira AND Laurel AND Quinten Lance AND Felicity in Arrow. Luckily Legends didn't have much of that and it doesn't seem like Supergirl does/will either (with the exception of J'onzz, I guess).
I resume it at some point soon.

 

[Fbh]

To be fair OP, the powers in this show have always been extremely inconsistent.
I'm currently watching and enjoying Season 2 but one episode you have Barry taking blood samples from 2 people without them even noticing....and then some chapters later he gets hit by a gorilla throwing random punches.
Like...captain cold should be a joke for Barry. In 1 second he should be able to take his gun and knock him hout...but somehow he allways gets shot.
Not to mention that he allways does this "going to you super fast and then punching you at regular speed" thing.

 

[Lakuza]

Yeah season 3 was eaily the worst of flash. Although I am looking forward to season 4 to see how they handle a non speedster villain.

Surprised how well liked legends of tomorrow is. I thought season 2 was just as bad as season 1 (wont be watching season 3 as i find this show the worst of the cw bunch). Every character was pretty dumb throughout the whole show. Ray being the worst from his motivations to his decision making. Feels like this one is aimed at a really young audience (not to mention how stupid the villains are too, suffering from the I have the shooting skills of a stormtrooper syndrome).

Arrow was a definate improvement (3rd best season for me) but hopefully they stop the felicity and oliver melodrama going forward.

Supergirl was worse than season 1 for me, they focused way too much on the awkward relationships and got just as lazy as "flash lost the villain during their first encounter when he could search the area to find them in seconds" by making j'onn unable to read any enemies mind "he's somehow blocking me!" (this happened on a human villain too lol). Alex's character was pretty awesome in season 1 and the first episode in season 2 when she comes out as gay was great but then that's all they focused on for the rest of the season for alex

whilst its not linked to the dc shows, izombie is the best cw show for me. Its stayed consistent throughout all seasons, can't wait for season 4.

 

[Dereck]

Man this was dumb as fuck

 

[Apt101]

I really enjoyed the first two seasons - especially s1. I was spared s3 when CW declined to renew the contract with Hulu. I pretty much forgot about it until I happened across this post, and it sounds like I didn't miss anything worth watching.

 

[Freshmaker]

Man this was dumb as fuck

Yeah... Anyone who says Zoom was a good villain. No. Just no.

Better than emo Barry clone, (time remnants were the worst idea ever, and they abused the crap out of the ill defined "concept") but that's bottom of the barrel vs the slime mold covering it.

 

[Jimnymebob]

Yeah... Anyone who says Zoom was a good villain. No. Just no.

Better than emo Barry clone, (time remnants were the worst idea ever, and they abused the crap out of the ill defined "concept") but that's bottom of the barrel vs the slime mold covering it.

Zoom was cool on the scene where he parades Barry around the city. That's it. They should have just kept him as that emotionless monster.

Savitar was stupid though, and the fact that they beat him by just kicking him out of his suit, then shooting him was dumb. Hell, even shooting him was pointless. He was gonna be erased at that exact moment anyway. It's like someone having 20 seconds before they're going to die suddenly, and shooting them when 20 seconds pass.

 

[Dandy Lyin]

To be fair OP, the powers in this show have always been extremely inconsistent.
I'm currently watching and enjoying Season 2 but one episode you have Barry taking blood samples from 2 people without them even noticing....and then some chapters later he gets hit by a gorilla throwing random punches.
Like...captain cold should be a joke for Barry. In 1 second he should be able to take his gun and knock him hout...but somehow he allways gets shot.
Not to mention that he allways does this "going to you super fast and then punching you at regular speed" thing.

Every episode I ask myself why he didn't just run up behind the villain and knock them out before they even see him. I mean, sure that would be a boring show... But why do you always run up to your enemies and then stop in front of them?

 

[Night Hunter]

But who wouldn't with a sister like that?

Have you seen Patty?

 

[jobrro]

Have you seen Patty?

Have you seen Iris?

 

[LotusHD]

Have you seen Patty?

Not anymore. ;D

 

[Night Hunter]

Not anymore. ;D

Honestly, the destined couple thing sucks

Have you seen Iris?

Patty was the better character though

 

[Hero of Time]

I agree with you on nearly everything you said, although I still got some enjoyment out of S3, so I can't say I hated everything about it, and I'll still watch S4, but no doubt S3 was the worst season.

I too thought that dirt bike scene was incredibly bad and unfortunately it's a problem the show has had since season 1. Barry is always getting hit by shit he really shouldn't and it never fails to annoy me lol.

i'll always remember how barry just gave his speedforce to Zoom while he had no more hostage at all

the dumbest and funniest thing i've seen on this show!

Oh yeah, definitely one of the worst and dumbest moments of the entire series.

 

[LotusHD]

Honestly, the destined couple thing sucks



Patty was the better character though

Honestly, it genuinely doesn't matter. The Arrowverse shows can't do relationships to save their lives.

 

[Night Hunter]

Honestly, it genuinely doesn't matter. The Arrowverse shows can't do relationships to save their lives.

Well you got a point there