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Fate/Grand Order |OT| That's Hell You're Walking Into

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commish

Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
Hoo boy, I kind of understand how important the crystallized lore materials are, but they seem very hard to farm.

I can't do the 30AP quests consistently without burning at least 1 command spell, and even then they drop 3 - 4 gold pieces for 5 minutes work.

Feel free to add me if you haven't already, I think some of my servants will make it easier for you. Unfortunately I'm not able to connect to the game so I can't see what my friend code is or who is on my friends list. My code is on the google doc though.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I have a level 40 NP3 Lancelot that sees decent usage... not your kind though. With the Master ATK skill and Waver NP right before, he can get the assassin and zerker down to to ~7K each, and get Waver down to ~19K. My Stage 3 usually goes:

Round 1 - if zerker's skills haven't reset and/or if Waver's skills haven't reset (usually the case), attack waver. This is usually good because he hasn't buffed anything yet so I can usually get a good solid 15-20K on him. They usually respond by an attack (or two), and then buffing the hell out of their own zerker.

Round 2 - The money round.. Hopefully I have a buster (even better, a zerker one). Master ATK buff on Lancelot, both of Lancelot's Crit buffs, and if Waver's NP charge can put Lancelot's (or a good support Waver's) NP at 200%, even better. Now I do Waver NP, Lancelot NP, and attack (hopefully lancelot buster) on the assassin. This usually ends the round with assassin dead, waver at like 15K, and their zerker at ~7K. The best part is, with their zerker alive, Waver will almost never go def buff crazy. Maybe get one def buff off.

Round 3 - clean up.

funny part is I am running jeanne... but I honestly don't have to use her NP ever. I've learned that just healing a priority target during the second chimera, and throwing up Master Evade (usually once on Lancelot) assures that all three make it to Stage 3 no problem. I've only lost one Lancelot and it was like a turn 1 3 x attack on him by the Stage 2 chimera (at level 40 I only have like 6K health)

funny part is.. I have a screenshot of a match last night.. before I settled in on this pattern.. man there was one battle that went out 25 rounds... holy balls.. just an unlucky character loss early on and the dominoes toppled from there. But since I've settled in on this pattern I am pretty much done by turn 9-10.

If you have my Altria on your friends list, you can use her to clear that final stage in one round if you can get her NP gauge maxed out to 200% and stack attack buffs on her. I have a Kaleidoscope on her so it's not too difficult to get her NP gauge up with the right team complement. The NP3 alone should kill two of the servants outright and leave Waver with less than 10k health.
 

elty

Member
I guess I am playing this game wrong. I always took Gil + waver + Jeanne and it takes like 10 rounds routinely.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
My 30AP team is Gil/Heracles/Waver.

Spend the first two battles charging up NPs (Imaginary Element on Gil and Heracles). Round 3, use all NPs on enemy waver. Usually brings them down to kill range next turn. Then it's just cleanup.
 
For the 30 AP, I use my usual team of Jeanne, Medea and Vlad (support). I always charge Medea's NP in the previous rounds so I can 1-shot/almost one shot the Berserker in the first turn, and dealing damage with the other two to Waver. In the next turn, I charge Medea's NP with her skill to one shot/almost one shot Jing Ke and then kill her with the residual damage from the other two. At the end, Waver is alone and since he doesn't deal that much damage, I can just grind him down with all three servants, dispel him with Medea's NP in case he gets crazy with his skill, and heal with Jeanne if needed.

If Medea dies by some weird reason, Vlad's NP (which is usually charged by the beginning of the third round) + two attacks can kill either Berserker or Jing Ke, and Jeanne deals enough damage to almost kill the other, plus I have Martha as backup for Waver.
 

Paprikka

Member
I'd upgrade the skills if I could get the materials to drop. :(

NEED THOSE REVISED DAILIES!

If you haven't used any caster gems yet I think you should have enough from the Gil promo to level up skills a few times.

Though yeah, those gems are pretty much it for the moment until either new dailies or I think the next singularity is released.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Lu Bu isn't a threat at all. I don't see why you wouldn't focus Waver first.
 

commish

Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
My 30 AP team is always Waver + Lancelot + friend Vlad or another Berserker.

Round 1 - if I get 3 buster cards, I can clear in 1 round. If not, then 2 rounds.

Round 2 - usually takes 2 rounds, depending on cards.

Round 3 - Lancelot takes everyone out..

My fastest is 3 rounds but it's usually 4 or 5.
 
If you haven't used any caster gems yet I think you should have enough from the Gil promo to level up skills a few times.

Though yeah, those gems are pretty much it for the moment until either new dailies or I think the next singularity is released.

We got 15 blue gems, which levels a single Waver skill no further than once.

Could level two skills once each, but I'd rather have attack buff level 3 or 4 first.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
You are fine. It usually takes 8-12 for me for the whole thing.

Yeah, it's all down to team setup...use whatever combination gets you through the mission easily (e.g. no danger of having to use a command spell).

I go for the "blitz everything" approach as my team is usually Altria (lvl 70)/Emiya (lvl 60)/Support Waver (lvl 80). I can build NP fast as that group usually has enough firepower to clear through the first Berserker wave with just Arts chains, then I try to get through the second wave with Buster chains if I can focusing on keeping Altria and Waver alive, and then at the final wave I top off Altria's NP gauge with Waver's skills as needed, stack attack buffs, fire off all the NPs and nuke everything. Lu Bu and Jing Ke die in one shot, and whatever's left of Waver dies in the subsequent attack.

So about 5-6 rounds on average. If I get lucky and all the low % crits hit in the earlier waves, I can get through in 3-4 rounds.
 

Kieli

Member
Feel free to add me if you haven't already, I think some of my servants will make it easier for you. Unfortunately I'm not able to connect to the game so I can't see what my friend code is or who is on my friends list. My code is on the google doc though.

Thanks! I appreciate that.
 

Sterok

Member
Level 70 Altera + level 60 Vlad + a good Berserker friend usually carries me through the 30 AP one pretty easily. Lancelot, Marie, and Lancer Cu can finish things if need be.
 

Moonlight

Banned
My team is Herc, Altera, and whichever Waver I can pick up. Herc nukes Waver, Altera nukes everything else, Waver helps get them there and helps remove Jing Ke. Can pretty consistently one-round unless I get unlucky and don't roll a single extra Buster card on the NP turn.
 

Kenai

Member
I use Jeanne (70), Waver (80), and a support with AoE (usually Lancelot, sometimes TamCat or Altera). I used to mistakenly focus Lu Bu right away cause it's usually a good idea to kill the Berserker first, but leaving Waver up and letting him get Defense stacks ends up being a lot more work.

I could use someone instead of Jeanne and be fine too but none of my personal 5*s are AoE damage dealers so meh, 3rd Ascension Waver being a battery for the AoE support is the MVP here. If someone happens to go down my Vlad comes out and cleans up, but that hasn't happened since I started making enemy Waver priority #1.
 

Baalzebup

Member
Lv 80 Altera + Kaleidoskope, lv 70 Vlad and one of my friended Arturias with either Kaleidoskope or something similar. Basically it is all about just annihilating the chimeras while making sure I arrive at the 3rd round with both sabers at 100 NP, then nuking everything in a single round due to the buff synergy those two sabers enjoy.

4-6 rounds per run, depending on how the cards turn out in regards to charging the NPs.
 
My 30AP setup is Herc, Lancelot and Waver support. 60% NP card on Lancelot, then just have Waver feed him NP. Use evades and defense boost on the white chimera to avoid lucky crit kills, then Lancelot destroys the servants with his NP. 6-7 turn process, sometimes 5 if the busters line up right and the Waver support has his third skill.
 

Grazzt

Member
My old team was Herc Waver and support AoE servant. Sometimes it took two turns to clear final stage. Now I switched Herc for Gil, and it always takes only one turn. Gil's np does huge damage to servants
 

jonjonaug

Member
For the 30 AP mission I use a team of a level 60 Liz and level 60 Vlad accompanied by a support of Altera or Altria Alter. I've got a Kaleidoscope on Liz and an Imaginary Element on Vlad. The first two rounds of foes go down in about two turns each, and I can usually down both Waver and Lu Bu on the first turn with NP spam. All three Servants will go down if I have Altria Alter with me. The total time spent is anywhere between 5-7 turns usually.

I also have a level 60 Emiya, a level 50 Herc, and a level 50 Nero as backup in case anyone goes down from the front team.
 

mellow

Member
got a nightless rose drop from the 30AP which is cool, wanted it for collector's purposes but didn't want to have to buy it from the shop
 
I'm pretty thankful that I seem to have at least 3-5 Supports that Lvl3 or higher NP Lancelot with either a Kaleidoscope or 60% NP. Combined with 80 Waver and 80 Vlad, I can usually clear off first three chimera in 1-2 rounds, white chimera in 1-2 rounds, then just load all of Waver's buffs and the ATK+ Mystic Code on Lancelot to clear all 3 Servants in one shot.
 

Strimei

Member
For the 30 AP one, the only part that gives me any real difficulty is the second stage with the white chimera, since it has three turns to use and can buff itself considerably in it and still get in an attack.

60 Emiya (with 30% NP CE), 50 Herc (60% NP CE) and whichever 60 friend support I feel like (been doing well with Vyr's level 70 Arturia). Just unload all the NPs in the third round with focus on Waver and then mop up the remains.

Also speaking earlier on revised dailies, anyone have even a rough idea when we can expect them? Because realizing how I still need monuments...
 

RSchmitz

Member
Damn, I usually do Waver, Herc, Jeanne but so many were talking about Lancelot that I decided to try him instead of Jeanne. Did it all in 4 turns, Jeanne really isn´t great for this one.
 

Hubb

Member
Well I wasn't going to roll until a rate up for a character I wanted happened, but I got the itch and decided to just use my tickets. Used 20 and got a Kaleidoscope, it isn't Nero but I'm not going to complain either.
 

Umbooki

Member
Hoo boy, I kind of understand how important the crystallized lore materials are, but they seem very hard to farm.

I can't do the 30AP quests consistently without burning at least 1 command spell, and even then they drop 3 - 4 gold pieces for 5 minutes work.
089,959,908

Feel free to add me and use my Altera. She starts off the fight with 80% NP and consistently makes the 3rd fight a breeze with her NP. Just make sure to use the attack up command spell and her skills before using the NP.
 

vareon

Member
Guys, a question about binding accounts... it's literally just to "save" your game progress, right?Should I do it often?
 

Slashlen

Member
Finally got my first claw grinding 30AP at lunch today. Also got enough golds to grab the first lore. Not expecting to clear out the shop at this rate unless the 40AP drops in the last third are crazy(and I can actually grind it), but I think I can get all the mats and 1 CE.
 

Hubb

Member
Guys, a question about binding accounts... it's literally just to "save" your game progress, right?Should I do it often?

Just doing it once is all you need. It doesn't save your current situation, it saves the entire account. If you ever need to change devices, you use the code/password and it'll download everything you have done.
 

Uthred

Member
Havent really gotten a chance to get stuck in unfortunately, regretting not farming up those gold caster statues as thats all thats holding my Waver back.

Edit: Is ~6 gold medals usual from the 30 AP match?
 
Feel free to add me if you haven't already, I think some of my servants will make it easier for you. Unfortunately I'm not able to connect to the game so I can't see what my friend code is or who is on my friends list. My code is on the google doc though.

Your Lancelot pretty much means I one-shot Waver/Jing Ke/Lu Bu.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
I think minimum gold medals is like, 3? And maximum is, I dunno, 15, but realistically you can expect between 6 and 8.
 
I've done the 30AP mission enough to earn around 180 gold medals and I've yet to see a claw drop. I did get a Nightless Rose though.

I farmed the 30 AP mission until I had about 350 gold medals and I got a grand total of 4 claw drops. I actually leveled up 3 times during this farm, levels 80-82.

I also got a Nightless Rose. I hope this is a good sign that I will get CE drops when the CE's are ones I want down the road.

Two single rolls, two Black Keys.
Yet I still have hope in my Empress.

It took me 10 Summon tickets for my Emperor to heed my call. Don't give up!
 

Uthred

Member
My 30AP setup is Herc, Lancelot and Waver support. 60% NP card on Lancelot, then just have Waver feed him NP. Use evades and defense boost on the white chimera to avoid lucky crit kills, then Lancelot destroys the servants with his NP. 6-7 turn process, sometimes 5 if the busters line up right and the Waver support has his third skill.

Tried this out and its definitely so much better than slogging through with Jeanne like I was doing. Berserkers uber alles
 
I got 6 open friend slots for whoever needs a Lancelot support as well. He's got his NP on lvl. 3 and a Kaleidoscope on him. He too is able to destroy an entire round of enemies easily.
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My in-game name is names2hard. The friend code is: 387314852
 

jonjonaug

Member
With my NP3 Vlad, level 60 Liz, and Kaleidoscope + Imaginary Element I can clear the 30 AP in four turns with a support Saber Alter that also has a Kaledioscope.

Turns 1 and 2: Build 20 NP gauge for Vlad and as much as possible for Liz and Saber Alter/Lancelot while killing the three chimeras.
Turn 3: Use Vampirism to charge Vlad's NP meter from ~80-85 to 100. Use Charisma on Saber Alter and Liz and use Kazikli Bey + 1-2 additional attacks to take out the Chimera.
Turn 4: Use Mana Burst and the formal craft attack boost on Saber Alter, use Liz's defense down skill on Jing Ke. Use Liz's and Saber Alter's NPs to clear the entire field.

Sometimes I end up on a fifth turn, but not very often.
 

Semblance

shhh Graham I'm still compiling this Radiant map
I've cleared out most of the shop and don't think I wanna do too much more than get the quest rewards for the next Colosseum battles. I actually need to level up my Attila and Waver some more (already have the mats for ascending my Waver a third time ready to go, but he's currently at 60 lol).

Moon Goddess Event should start as NeroFest ends, right? Gonna farm those EXP + Fou cards first. Dailies are only gonna get me so far with them costing full AP.
 

Kenai

Member
I've cleared out most of the shop and don't think I wanna do too much more than get the quest rewards for the next Colosseum battles. I actually need to level up my Attila and Waver some more (already have the mats for ascending my Waver a third time ready to go, but he's currently at 60 lol).

Moon Goddess Event should start as NeroFest ends, right? Gonna farm those EXP + Fou cards first. Dailies are only gonna get me so far with them costing full AP.

I hear ya. I got everything done but the 3 Lores (bout 3/4ths to my first), the CEs and the Exp cards and I want all those Exp cards when my Lores are done. I burned through a bunch just getting Waver from 70-80 and while my bank is full I want to save that for a rainy day if I can.

Got a Nightless Rose from daily spam so the ones in the shop are definitely staying there.

Also it's assumed to start right after Nero but the dates aren't quite lined up with JP so we can't be 100% sure until they announce it. I am not sure how much they want to spread stuff out for the rest of the year
 

Articalys

Member
48 hours in and I've got 47/68/258 for medals and there were a few item drops from the 30AP fight -- I know I saw one, maybe two, but probably not more than three. I don't know how some of you already cleaned out the store.
 
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