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Angelina Jolie's Unconventional Method for Casting Her Latest Movie

Busty

Banned
I thought she and her dad didn't get along because of political views.

IIRC John Vogt was the head of some 'Hollywood Republican' board or group or whatever and I think his views really upset her when she was younger but the older (and richer) she got she's gotten more conservative.

Whether they now speak to each I have no idea but their political views have aligned more in recent years.
 
How are some surprised she could be this cruel to children. Here is something she said about her own kids:
"The world has this opinion about the difference, then you wonder if there is a difference. In fact I found the opposite. I think I feel so much more for Madd and Zee because they’re survivors, they came through so much. In some way they’re strangers because they had this life before me. Shiloh seemed so privileged from the moment she was born, I have less inclination to feel for her. I have the do the opposite from what I expected! I met my other kids when they were six months; they came with a personality. A newborn really is this…blob [the interviewer suggests]…! But now she’s starting to have a personality. The three of them are very funny together, very loud and in each other’s faces. She’s grown up with Zee screaming in her face in the morning! But, yes I’m conscious that I have to make sure I don’t ignore her needs, just because I think the others are more vulnerable."
 

Aselith

Member
Yeah it's unnecessarily cruel. Not that this excuses it but I really hope they were immediately compensated afterwards.

I feel like she would have added that part if she weren't insanely unaware of how her casting method sounds. I think she just didn't consider it and only wanted to feed on their raw emotions like a humanity vampire
 

DVCY201

Member
Yo, that's messed up. I don't think you're supposed to put traumatized children under deliberate psychological stress for casting auditions...
 
For her next movie she'll bring in recently freed child soldiers and demand they recount the horrible lives they lived for her amusement.
 

aBarreras

Member
i dont understand this...

so they put money in the table, then they say think something you would want to use this money for, then what? they would say take it, and then??? if they told you to take it why would they "catch" you with the money, can someone explain to me?
 

smurfx

get some go again
they better have given all those kids that money at the end. maybe now instead of having a vial of blood as her necklace she now uses orphan tears as it's purer.
 

Keri

Member
For her next movie she'll bring in recently freed child soldiers and demand they recount the horrible lives they lived for her amusement.

To stay consistent, she'd force them to physically battle for the part and then cast the winner, because obviously his trauma was greater and it made him more desperate to win (which will read really well on film).
 
That's fucked up. Not even in a "Jared Leto is an asshole" kind of way. That's just villainous to go on the search for fucked up kids and then fan their flame until you find the one that has the best war flashbacks. Detachment from reality. I wont support this movie.
 

El Topo

Member
i dont understand this...

so they put money in the table, then they say think something you would want to use this money for, then what? they would say take it, and then??? if they told you to take it why would they "catch" you with the money, can someone explain to me?

I don't quite understand that either. The way I initially read this is as follows:
1. Money is put on the table.
2. Kid is told to think of a reason why they would need the money.
3. Kid is told to snatch the money and then tell a lie when they are "caught".
4. Kid takes the money.
5. Kid is "caught".
6. Kid tells lie.
7. Kid has to give back money?

Not a native speaker, so I can't tell if that is how the process was.
 
The movie was completed a few months ago and already screened in Cambodia, I guess its releasing in the west in the next couple of months. Article from when it was still filming:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/11/angelina-jolie-cambodia-first-they-killed-my-father

Its pretty fucked up what she wanted to do to try and get authenticity, hopefully that was just one or two people and not the entire children cast. I am glad though she is bringing light to the events of the khmer rouge times, its a horrifying look into what human beings are capable of. There are a few other documentaries I've watched from that era when they interview generals and soldiers who put to death thousands of their fellow citizens, and they go back and talk to some of them and its heart breaking.
 

Alucrid

Banned
i dont understand this...

so they put money in the table, then they say think something you would want to use this money for, then what? they would say take it, and then??? if they told you to take it why would they "catch" you with the money, can someone explain to me?

after they take the money, which they were told to do, i assume the director who knows what's up "catches" them in the act and the kid doesn't know that the director is in on it.
 

aBarreras

Member
after they take the money, which they were told to do, i assume the director who knows what's up "catches" them in the act and the kid doesn't know that the director is in on it.

it doesnt make sense, unless the director starts to yell or something immedietaly after they tell the kid to take the money,

i dont understand
 

akira28

Member
hi guys. Angelina has always been...how do we put this...really fucking crazy.


don't actually leave her around children that she's not legally responsible for, please?
 

Alucrid

Banned
it doesnt make sense, unless the director starts to yell or something immedietaly after they tell the kid to take the money,

i dont understand

the director probably isn't the one telling them to take the money, that's someone else and the director comes in after pretending to think that the kid stole the money. it's like a police sting... except it's about casting a child in a movie
 

aBarreras

Member
reading it againt it seems that they played a game of ,imagine that you have a lot of money, what would you do with it? but with real money, and that's it?
 

Gunblade47

Neo Member
So... mentally abusing children to create an art piece for profit is where we are. What fucking lives must they all be living that they didn't think to, you know, not be scum? Or even that they are quite proud of their method to boot.

Exploitation of small children so others can be entertained. It's evil.

Traumatizing, but I can respect the method. Welcome to the real world.

I refuse to accept this is acceptable. Shit like this shouldn't be a thing in the modern era let alone be considered the norm.
 

Erv

Member
The only way I would feel ok with this is if every child subjected to this got their big break with a role in this movie. But theres probably not enough roles
 

RinsFury

Member
Ugh. What the hell is wrong with her? She seems like such an awful person, another rich person detached from the real world treating the poor and destitute like playthings or fashion accessories.
 

TheMan

Member
She's always been kinda loony tunes

made out with her brother
carried around a fucking vial of billy bob thorton's blood around her neck
dated a guy named billy bob
 

Axial

Member
they put money on the table and asked the child to think of something she needed the money for, and then to snatch it away.
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aBarreras

Member
i mean its weird but i dont think it is that cruel as people are thinking.

so they put money in the table and tell the kid to think something on what to spend the money on, then they tell her that she would pretend to steal it and they would pretend to catch her and that she is going to tell a lie to try to get away with it.

it seems that the winner kid only won because she was the one who spend the most time just watching at the money, and she got sad when she had to return it.
 

spwolf

Member
Just thinking about this makes me wonder about the kids that are not getting the part.

i dont get... she should have hired kids from LA? No kids should be cast ever because of disappointment when not selected?

With all the complaints about whitewashing, now people complain about someone trying to hire and pay unprivileged kids that have suffered unbelievable hardships.They are not trained actors, there has to be some kind of selection process and not everyone will get to act in the movie. They have went to the audition for the movie, they are not snatched from the street.

So apparently instead of taking them off the streets and getting them into acting in Hollywood movie, she should have left them on the streets because thats going to be better for them.

Do people think these kids are living their dreams right now? Anyone ending up casted will likely be able to change their life considerably for the better.

From the Vanity Fair article in OP:
Shot entirely in Cambodia, and in the Khmer language, the film, a Netflix original, is the largest production the country has witnessed since the war, and according to the reports of several Cambodians who’ve seen it, it’s one of the most revelatory pieces of art about that chapter in the country’s history, a history that’s still difficult for Cambodians to discuss. But if Cambodians consider the film to be something of a gift, then it’s surely a thank-you gift.

Despite Jolie’s Cambodian ties, she felt she needed a Cambodian filmmaker to help shepherd the project. So she reached out to Rithy Panh, one of the most famous filmmakers in Cambodia, who had lost family members to the genocide and had chronicled the Khmer Rouge in several documentaries, including The Missing Picture, which was nominated for the best-foreign-language-film Academy Award in 2014.


She and Panh agreed that the only way this film could be made was if Cambodia wanted it to be—not a foregone conclusion, given that Cambodians are still somewhat reticent about their painful history. (The Killing Fields, Roland Joffé’s 1984 film about the Khmer Rouge, had to be filmed in Thailand and elsewhere.) The war tribunals, which were set in motion in 2009 and are ongoing, have helped open up the topic. Still, Jolie was trepidatious and approached the country’s culture ministers gingerly, explaining that they were telling not just Ung’s story but also the story of a people. Jolie’s Cambodian track record made the difference, says Ung. “In a country like Cambodia, respect is very much elevated—respect for each other, respect for the culture, respect for the history, respect for the elders. Angie walks in Cambodia with this respect.”

Cambodia went all in—closing off Battambang for days, giving the filmmakers permits to land in remote zones, providing them with 500 officials from their actual army to play the Khmer Rouge army. “It’s not a poetic thing to say—[this film] was made by the country,” says Jolie. Between cast and crew, some 3,500 Cambodians participated.

According to the article, she shot it in Cambodia, entirely with local cast and in Khmer language with help of best known Cambodian director and basically all of the country, with 3500 people participating on the sets as well as 500 soldiers from the army with the help of ministry of culture.

But not, she is evil. Wtf.
 

commedieu

Banned
Imagine birthdays at her house.

Christfuck.

But, this is the person who wore a vial of Billy Bobs blood around her neck.
 
Reminds me of Aaron Eckhart preparing for Rabbit Hole by going to support groups for people who were grieving their dead children and telling them about his imaginary dead child.
 
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