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Joint Chiefs: No modification of trans- policy until SecDef issues official guidance
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wesleyshark
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Larger quote:
There will be no modifications to the current policy until the President's direction has been received by the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary has issued implementation guidance.
Edit: OP updated.
It could still be implemented, but it's dead for now.
There will be no modifications to the current policy until the President's direction has been received by the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary has issued implementation guidance.
Edit: OP updated.
It could still be implemented, but it's dead for now.
Chittagong
Gold Member
He really picks the worst battles doesn't he
benicillin
Banned
Yeah, I'm sure the thousands of transgender soldiers are fine with waiting around worried about their position with this hanging over their head. That won't hurt morale at all.
Look, that would require people to read the OP. Why would anyone do that?
JonnyDBrit
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Isn't this saying they're still going ahead with the policy?
Why are people being happy in this thread?
DarknessTear
Banned
And who knows if they have a fucking target on their back now among the other soldiers even moreso now. This probably created a bunch of bullshit.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
lol default font and no letterhead jeez
BigBeauford
Member
Uhh, so what happens after the meantime?
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
"Asked about an implementation plan, the Defense Department on Wednesday directed all questions to the White House."
They want nothing to do with this.
They want nothing to do with this.
Glitchesarecool
Member
This is hardly a victory. He still could put it forward if he follows the proper channels for it, instead of just tweeting it. As for how they actually implement it, we'll see. We'll also have to see if Trump has the patience to go through the procedures, or if his tweet was solely to get attention off of things yesterday.
Imperfected
Member
They're still on pins and needles, I'm sure, but having a statement from the Joint Chiefs at least mildly reaffirming support for them is better than nothing, which is (to be blunt) what you usually expect as a service member on the receiving end of a President's poor decisions.
JonnyDBrit
Member
Sort of. Basically, until Trump lays out what the hell he actually means and the Secretary of Defense can draft up a method of implementation, nothing changes.
So, it's on Mattis.
"no modifications to the current policy until the President's direction has been received by the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary has issued implementation guidance."
Sounds like there will very much be modifications to their transgender policy, and that it's just a matter of formality before changes are underway. But I guess that's not as eye-catching of a headline.
Sounds like there will very much be modifications to their transgender policy, and that it's just a matter of formality before changes are underway. But I guess that's not as eye-catching of a headline.
Hey he's new at this.
hydrophilic attack
Member
so people actually care about choice of font 🤔
I assumed this was a nice way of saying "you have to have a real, functioning plan to do anything"
And that they'll realize it will take a long time, allowing for people to take this shit to court
yanipheonu
Member
So if I understand correctly, Trump's tweet was the equivalent of thinking just yelling bankruptcy counts as declaring bankruptcy?
Cause there is nothing good coming from it. It reads as just evil. NPR had a bunch of people interviewing about how devastating it would be and even the interviewer sounded depressed like 'what the fuck'. And they are trying to be middle of the road.
How exactly is it "dead"?
Tyraniboah
Member
The policy will still change. It's just that Twitter isn't how policy gets changed and Trump didn't do it the right way. This isn't something to celebrate.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Bizarre.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Yea he basically chucked the ball back onto the WH lawn and said that's not how this works.
Autodidact
Banned
Trump hates bad press more than anything. He might just let the ban die now that he's seen the vehement reaction from the public.
cartographer
Member
Misleading thread title, no quote in original post.
Imperfected
Member
It's not dead, but forcing him to go through official channels on his own (rather than eagerly handling it for him) means he has to navigate legal challenges that he's proven poor at managing.
They are, but they have no guidance on how to do what the president wants. If Trump tweets how this is to be done then it will have to be done.
No, they're not "orders" in the least.
Orders are established by the formal chain-of-command protocol where the President gives a directive to the Secretary of Defense who in turn develops the policy guidance to the Service Chiefs for implementation. There is a formal process for this and Twitter isn't it.
Its not dead cause it never existed. Laws require documentation and plans. Like most of what Trump has supposedly done, nothing has actually been done cause there is no plan or documents. Most of his executive orders are nothing more then 1 page statements saying something needs to be looked at.
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