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[Primethius]

I can't think of a better open world game in years with as good of a main story/character horizon . That includes witcher 3 in my book even though world building and side quests are far better witcher 3.

Part of my issue with TW3 personally is that it's a drastic step down from TW1/2. And man, the Wild Hunt was such a big disappointment as an antagonistic force.

3 is far and away the best Witcher game but it came at the expense of a much less interesting plot, political world and villains.

Even the final choices in TW3 are muted and don't remotely compare vs. the impact felt with the players choices in the first two games.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

?

Whilst Horizon has a lot of things going for it, I don't think its story/character development is one of them.

One of the main reasons it scored the way it did

 

[Auctopus]

Wut. Horizon has been praised for its characters and story many times.

Okay... I didn't think it was that great?

I think the visuals/graphics and art design are technical masterpieces but when it came to the characters and story, I didn't think anything was particularly compelling about it.

 

[ricen-beans]

Okay... I didn't think it was that great?

I think the visuals/graphics and art design are technical masterpieces but when it came to the characters and story, I didn't think anything was particularly compelling about it.

Cool. You're probably in the minority there but different strokes for different folks.

 

[DriftingSpirit]

...and the point of my (half-joking) comment was that if we were to take that example as gospel, then hiring late impacts negatively on the game. It wasn't mean to be de-constructed.

Okay.

The whole thing was about how hiring people late in development was somehow indicative of games being cancelled. As such, the post you quoted was a good example. It had nothing to do with what you're talking about.

 

[Hellshy.]

Part of my issue with TW3 personally is that it's a drastic step down from TW1/2. And man, the Wild Hunt was such a big disappointment as an antagonistic force.

3 is far and away the best Witcher game but it came at the expense of a much less interesting plot, political world and villains.

Even the final choices in TW3 are muted and don't remotely compare vs. the impact felt with the players choices in the first two games.

I agree and felt the urgency of the story didn't help the game much due to all the side content that would get in my way.

I never played witcher 1 but 2 is my favorite in the series.

 

[Primethius]

I agree and felt the urgency of the story didn't help the game much due to all the side content that would get in my way.

I never played witcher 1 but 2 is my favorite in the series.

I love 2 so much because of Letho. Him vs. the Wild Hunt as a villain...

It's not even a fair comparison really.

 

[Hellshy.]

I love 2 so much because of Letho. Him vs. the Wild Hunt as a villain...

It's not even a fair comparison really.

He was an awesome villain. I also enjoyed that I almost always felt engaged with the main plot and not helping random farmers or in some cases excellent side quests instead of finding and helping someone I am supposed truly care about. I think that is why I was able to enjoy horizons story so much. I never felt like I was distracted too much and was able to stay engaged in what I felt was a very good plot. I think it would have made a great sci fi movie, that's how good I think it was .

 

[Auctopus]

The whole thing was about how hiring people late in development was somehow indicative of games being cancelled. As such, the post you quoted was a good example. It had nothing to do with what you're talking about.

What the hell? I know Horizon is GAF's darling at the moment but yes it did. Arkham posted that Horizon's lead writer was hired late in development and I light-heartedly added that I felt that it wasn't the best example as Horizon didn't have a great story. It was my opinion and it was relevant to the topic.

I know you wanna just defend the game, fine, but it was just my opinion. Even if it was mildly off-topic, you reacted pretty over-defensively for just a single criticism of a game that wasn't even directed towards you.

 

[Primethius]

He was an awesome villain. I also enjoyed that I almost always felt engaged with the main plot and not helping random farmers or in some cases excellent side quests instead of finding and helping someone I am supposed truly care about. I think that is why I was able to enjoy horizons story so much. I never felt like I was distracted too much and was able to stay engaged in what I felt was a very good plot. I think it would have made a great sci fi movie, that's how good I think it was .

The "helping random farmers" hits on TW3s biggest weakness story wise. The highlight of the game for most people I suspect, from a story perspective, is the Bloody Baron questline. Something that is mostly detached from the overarching plot. Lots of great side quests but unlike the prior two games, they never really fed into and flowed into the main plot in a meaningful or seamless way.

 

[Hellshy.]

The "helping random farmers" hits on TW3s biggest weakness story wise. The highlight of the game for most people I suspect, from a story perspective, is the Bloody Baron questline. Something that is mostly detached from the overarching plot. Lots of great side quests but unlike the prior two games, they never really fed into and flowed into the main plot in a meaningful or seamless way.

My two favorite things in tw3 is bloody baron side quests and gwent. If it wasn't for gwent I think my feelings on tw3 would be much different and set it even further apart from the second game.

 

[RSchmitz]

Horizon could use a mini game. It's a good way to make some side quests too.

 

[Miniature Kaiju]

The "helping random farmers" hits on TW3s biggest weakness story wise. The highlight of the game for most people I suspect, from a story perspective, is the Bloody Baron questline. Something that is mostly detached from the overarching plot. Lots of great side quests but unlike the prior two games, they never really fed into and flowed into the main plot in a meaningful or seamless way.

I don't think the side-plots not being totally integral to the main plot is a big problem, really. Where it suffers is that the main plot in TW3 just isn't as compelling, what made the game super disjointed and lopsided - you care more about tangential stuff than the main dish of the game.

Horizon could use a mini game. It's a good way to make some side quests too.

A mini-game or something like hunting parties looking for mythic beasts, or an arena mode.

 

[FelipeMGM]

Horizon could use a mini game. It's a good way to make some side quests too.

agreed, it lacked some activities

thats whats so exciting about a sequel too, the game is great but there is a bunch of stuff they can add and improve

 

[Auctopus]

thats whats so exciting about a sequel too, the game is great but there is a bunch of stuff they can add and improve

Definintely, if that's their first effort at an open-world RPG - I can't imagine what they're cooking up next.

In the mission where you end up in that arena in the desert, I thought we were going to unlock an arena mode after that.

 

[Dadasch]

Definintely, if that's their first effort at an open-world RPG - I can't imagine what they're cooking up next.

In the mission where you end up in that arena in the desert, I thought we were going to unlock an arena mode after that.

That would've been great...
An arena where you can arrange how many enemies you want to fight and which of course. Options like a time limit or just some damage counter (something like in Just Cause 3 for example, hitting weak spots gives you more points and such) and a leaderbord type challenge.

Combat is great in Horizon so it would be justified.

 

[Carn82]

I don't think the side-plots not being totally integral to the main plot is a big problem, really. Where it suffers is that the main plot in TW3 just isn't as compelling, what made the game super disjointed and lopsided - you care more about tangential stuff than the main dish of the game.

Yup.. to be fair I think the 'main plot' is the "weakest" of the bunch. I would put HoS on #1, BaW on #2 and the maingame on #3. But maybe thats also because its the longest, most spun out one. The game really shines with the shorter plots (such as the DLC ones) and the Bloody Baron.

 

[Primethius]

I don't think the side-plots not being totally integral to the main plot is a big problem, really. Where it suffers is that the main plot in TW3 just isn't as compelling, what made the game super disjointed and lopsided - you care more about tangential stuff than the main dish of the game.

I definitly agree with the point about caring more about the tangential stuff.

For me, the side plot integration issue I have is more so how the Witcher series has, more so than most games, put a focus on the political world that exists within it. So past games, even when the side quests were unrelated, they felt like they were pushing the world forward, informing the player about things that the main plotline would be built around and touch.

TW3's world ending plot and extra dimensional villains are so detached from the common plot the game inhabits a majority of the time that the discrepancy in quality between the two is magnified.

 

[Cyberia]

Lead writer taking its job a month ago is a bit worrying.

Ian is the new lead writer. Brad Kane (former Telltale writer) was in January appointed as the new lead writer but is now working at the studio as a senior writer.

 

[Shin-Ra]

Here's the two most interesting deals for the UK, on opposite ends of the price spectrum.

£22.85 — SimplyGames are the cheapest I've found.

£29.99 — Game have no discount on the RRP but include a Knackboy keyring!

 

[WillySJ3]

Knack II hype!!!

http://www.dualshockers.com/knack-2-new-screenshots/

 

[DriftingSpirit]

Knack II hype!!!

http://www.dualshockers.com/knack-2-new-screenshots/

Looking forward to it. Physical copy is paid off and ready to go.

 

[dracula_x]

small update about Firesprite:

→ https://www.instagram.com/p/BXTRCnrAeeg/
→ https://twitter.com/LeeCarus/status/892810771893284864

company is about 30 people now, btw.

 

[Deleted member 471617]

Long story short - having a debate with a friend regarding Uncharted: The Lost Legacy and where it will land with critic reviews, gamers and where it will rank among the franchise.

He thinks that it will be fourth best with Uncharted 4 being fifth. He ranks Uncharted 2, Uncharted 3 and Uncharted first to third respectively.

Personally, I think that it will be the second best with Uncharted 2 being first. Uncharted 3, Uncharted 4 and Uncharted being third to fifth respectively.

Critic wise, I see it getting no lower than an overall score of 90 but im predicting 95 critic score with a user score of 90 making it the highest rated in the franchise user score wise and second highest critic wise.

Reasons why I believe U:TLL will be that high is because it will be what Uncharted 4 wasn't. It will be action packed from beginning to end, have awesome action set pieces, the puzzles will be better, gameplay will be improved, visuals will be equal or better but perhaps most important, the two lead characters of Chloe and Nadine will make the franchise feel new and fresh again and without the soap opera bullshit of the last two main Uncharted games with Nate and Elena.

What do you guys think?

 

[brickarts295]

I'm guessing Lost Legacy will be somewhere in the high 80's and low 90's. It's all down to the characters and plot of the game, since the gameplay is pretty much Uncharted 4 again. High 90's if Chloe actually doesn't end blowing up this game's long lost city by the end of the game XD.

 

[jayu26]

I'm guessing Lost Legacy will be somewhere in the high 80's and low 90's. It's all down to the characters and plot of the game, since the gameplay is pretty much Uncharted 4 again. High 90's if Chloe actually doesn't end blowing up this game's long lost city by the end of the game XD.

It is not getting more than 88...unless they knock it out of the park with the story; and it would have to be the best story in among Uncharted games.

He thinks that it will be fourth best with Uncharted 4 being fifth. He ranks Uncharted 2, Uncharted 3 and Uncharted first to third respectively.

You tell your friend that some random guy on the internet told you to tell him/her that anyone who ranks Uncharted 1 above Uncharted 4 doesn't know what they are doing. lol.

 

[VanCityGamer]

Critic wise, I see it getting no lower than an overall score of 90 but im predicting 95 critic score with a user score of 90 making it the highest rated in the franchise user score wise and second highest critic wise.

Reasons why I believe U:TLL will be that high is because it will be what Uncharted 4 wasn't. It will be action packed from beginning to end, have awesome action set pieces, the puzzles will be better, gameplay will be improved, visuals will be equal or better but perhaps most important, the two lead characters of Chloe and Nadine will make the franchise feel new and fresh again and without the soap opera bullshit of the last two main Uncharted games with Nate and Elena.

What do you guys think?

I would LOVE for you to be correct, but I don't see it playing out that way.

I'll predict an 87 Metacritic score. Critics will say that the gameplay is very similar to Uncharted 4, while the writing and story aren't as good. It's going to come across as the B-team doing an Uncharted game (to an extent).

I also don't see any indication it will be action packed from start to finish like you have predicted? If anything, I think it will be even slower. And critics will penalize The Lost Legacy for that more than Uncharted 4.

P.S. my Uncharted rankings are:
2>>3>4>1

 

[Deleted member 471617]

You tell your friend that some random guy on the internet told you to tell him/her that anyone who ranks Uncharted 1 above Uncharted 4 doesn't know what they are doing. lol.

Hahaha. I told him. He thinks Uncharted 4 is the better game especially visually but he holds the original Amy trilogy as the best three games and the best action trilogy of all time for him. That's why he ranks Uncharted 1 as third best.

I would LOVE for you to be correct, but I don't see it playing out that way.

I'll predict an 87 Metacritic score. Critics will say that the gameplay is very similar to Uncharted 4, while the writing and story aren't as good. It's going to come across as the B-team doing an Uncharted game (to an extent).

I also don't see any indication it will be action packed from start to finish like you have predicted? If anything, I think it will be even slower. And critics will penalize The Lost Legacy for that more than Uncharted 4.

P.S. my Uncharted rankings are:
2>>3>4>1

Writing wise will be equal with the story being better for one main reason - the soap opera drama between Nate and Elena (which sorry I was completely sick of by U3) won't exist. For me, TLL will be what U4 should have been.

Just by watching the gameplay videos and highlights, I think that it will easily be more action packed than U4 which to be honest, was a disappointment to me. There will be a few slow parts but nowhere near the slow pacing of U4. Outside of the one huge awesome action set piece in U4, there was literally nothing in regards to set pieces. I easily see TLL surpassing that, no doubt in my mind. Like some have said on podcasts, people are sleeping on TLL. I'm not. I'm more hyped and pumped for TLL than I was U3 and U4 and for me to be this excited says something in regards to how great TLL will be. Ten more days baby!!!

 

[FelipeMGM]

yall are crazy, Uncharted 4 is the best in the series

I'd argue it even makes the other games better because we get more in depth with characters relationships, so they give you better context for past games

 

[Theslammer]

I'm replaying Uncharted 4 right now and am on Chapter 13 or 14, and it's fantastic. The pacing hasn't even bothered me, which I thought it would since this is my third time playing it.

The whole Italy chapter is just some great scene building and tension-building, and the climax to it is a whole lot of fun.

I think I might get the Nathan Drake Collection around Black Friday (unless there's a great Best Buy sale before that) and see how they whole stack up again. Last time I played the PS3 ones, I put 3 and 2 on the same level with 1 underneath them.

 

[Duchess O'Death]

Yeah Uncharted 4 is absolutely the best in the series. I started a new playthrough today to get ready for TLL.

And I love the pacing! It's Nate's last adventure. It has weight. It's shouldn't be non-stop action.

And I see many people hate the first few slow chapters. If you care about those characters, I don't see why people don't like those slow chapters. They add so much to the characters.

 

[Slaythe]

What i loved about UC 4 was precisely the non action packed aspect.

Felt like it took its time when neeeded, gave you room to breathe, instead of wondering when the next wave of enemies is gonna magically appear.

Felt much more organic and enjoyable to play through.
Had the feel of an action adventure movie.

Now it could be improved, as some parts were maybe a bit too slow ( bad climbing mechanics and crates etc.. ), and some parts overdid the action, but overall I loved this.

Don't care for more non stop shooters with occasional puzzles to pretend it's not all they are like UC3.

I haven't been super excite by what I have seen of TLC.
I'll reserve judgement though for its release.

On another topic, wonder what the fuck is up with Sucker Punch.

 

[Theslammer]

I'd have loved to replay the initial set piece (boat chase at the beginning of the game) after the island hopping chapter. It probably needed that to punctuate it, and it would have been like Uncharted 2 where you climb that dangling train again.

That's one thing I wish they'd patch or put into another version.

 

[The God]

On another topic, wonder what the fuck is up with Sucker Punch.

another 3rd person open world game

hopefully this one is at least melee-focused

 

[DriftingSpirit]

I would LOVE for you to be correct, but I don't see it playing out that way.

I'll predict an 87 Metacritic score. Critics will say that the gameplay is very similar to Uncharted 4, while the writing and story aren't as good. It's going to come across as the B-team doing an Uncharted game (to an extent).

I also don't see any indication it will be action packed from start to finish like you have predicted? If anything, I think it will be even slower. And critics will penalize The Lost Legacy for that more than Uncharted 4.

P.S. my Uncharted rankings are:
2>>3>4>1

Based on what?

another 3rd person open world game

hopefully this one is at least melee-focused

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=245782276&postcount=11554

 

[Deleted member 471617]

I was disappointed with Uncharted 4 and rated it an 8.5/10. It's simply not that great. Horrible pacing, only one action sequence, repeating enemy tank that never seemed to go away, boring lame predictable story centered around a soap opera with two new characters that while good were completely wasted and misused. Crappy flashback sequences that felt like it was cut out of U3 and pasted into U4. Horrible ending boss fight with a new gameplay mechanic that doesn't exist in the entire game. Also felt more like a team based shooter majority of the time. The BEST thing about Uncharted 4 was by far the "pirate story". Would love to know what Amy's version of U4 would have been. Oh well.

For me, TLL is going to be what U4 should have been in every way and I can't wait!!!

 

[pswii60]

I was disappointed with Uncharted 4 and rated it an 8.5/10. It's simply not that great. Horrible pacing, only one action sequence, repeating enemy tank that never seemed to go away, boring lame predictable story centered around a soap opera with two new characters that while good were completely wasted and misused. Crappy flashback sequences that felt like it was cut out of U3 and pasted into U4. Horrible ending boss fight with a new gameplay mechanic that doesn't exist in the entire game. The BEST thing about Uncharted 4 was by far the "pirate story". Would love to know what Amy's version of U4 would have been. Oh well.

For me, TLL is going to be what U4 should have been in every way and I can't wait!!!

My issue with U4 was that it was simply too long, and the first 8 chapters and last few chapters really dragged. The middle part of the game was great though with some stunning locations and I thoroughly enjoyed those hours playing it.

So TLL's shorter length really appeals to me, it should mean better pacing. I prefer these types of games to be around 8-10 hours max.

 

[DriftingSpirit]

Yeah, it is basically a matter of pacing. You can have those slower paced moments but they need to be balanced well with everything else. I think a ton of action needs to be paced well too. That can also get tiring.

ULL will benefit by being shorter as it gets harder to keep things balanced the longer it goes.

 

[ASilentProtagonist]

Based on what?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=245782276&postcount=11554

 

[Dadasch]

Just a year after Uncharted 4 the new Standalone to the very same game won't be that well received imo, critically of course.
For a 90 MC they have to make possibly the best UC-Experience they can and I doubt that would be the case.

I predict something around 85-87.

 

[Theslammer]

only one action sequence

???

 

[pswii60]

Yeah, it is basically a matter of pacing. You can have those slower paced moments but they need to be balanced well with everything else. I think a ton of action needs to be paced well too. That can also get tiring.

ULL will benefit by being shorter as it gets harder to keep things balanced the longer it goes.

Yeah, there were plenty of times when I thought 'oh here we go again'.

But that's probably because the gun-play is the least interesting part of Uncharted to me. I just find it frustrating rather than fun, especially the length of time it takes to reload guns, the bullet-sponge enemies, necessity for headshots most of the time, difficulty covering and how the (albeit fantastic) animation can get in the way of the movement when you're trying to dodge. Gears always was and still is far more fun in that regard. ND has improved it since U1 but it's still just not right for me. Luckily there's plenty of other stuff to love about the games to make up for it.

 

[VanCityGamer]

Hahaha. I told him. He thinks Uncharted 4 is the better game especially visually but he holds the original Amy trilogy as the best three games and the best action trilogy of all time for him. That's why he ranks Uncharted 1 as third best.



Writing wise will be equal with the story being better for one main reason - the soap opera drama between Nate and Elena (which sorry I was completely sick of by U3) won't exist. For me, TLL will be what U4 should have been.

Just by watching the gameplay videos and highlights, I think that it will easily be more action packed than U4 which to be honest, was a disappointment to me. There will be a few slow parts but nowhere near the slow pacing of U4. Outside of the one huge awesome action set piece in U4, there was literally nothing in regards to set pieces. I easily see TLL surpassing that, no doubt in my mind. Like some have said on podcasts, people are sleeping on TLL. I'm not. I'm more hyped and pumped for TLL than I was U3 and U4 and for me to be this excited says something in regards to how great TLL will be. Ten more days baby!!!

Interesting! I do hope you end up being right since Uncharted is one of my favorite series. I still don't think you will be though

This is a strange statement: "and for me to be this excited says something in regards to how great TLL will be". You being excited for a game doesn't act as proof that it will turn out great.

I'm also pretty sure I've read impressions on here that the gameplay videos have contained some questionable voice acting and writing. And that it looked a bit boring. I haven't watched gameplay myself since I'm on media blackout.

Maybe the game will be more action packed than Uncharted 4, but I've seen no evidence of it.

It will be the lowest rated console Uncharted game, I predict.

 

[DriftingSpirit]

Yep, hype!

Yeah, there were plenty of times when I thought 'oh here we go again'.

But that's probably because the gun-play is the least interesting part of Uncharted to me. I just find it frustrating rather than fun, especially the length of time it takes to reload guns, the bullet-sponge enemies, necessity for headshots most of the time, difficulty covering and how the (albeit fantastic) animation can get in the way of the movement when you're trying to dodge. Gears always was and still is far more fun in that regard. ND has improved it since U1 but it's still just not right for me. Luckily there's plenty of other stuff to love about the games to make up for it.

While I enjoy the combat, there is something off about the shooting in UC4. I haven't played it in a long while but I remember wanting it to be tweaked.

 

[VanCityGamer]

Based on what?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=245782276&postcount=11554

The poster I was quoting was confident this would be more action packed seemingly on a gut feeling. My gut feeling is simply the opposite. I also think I read somewhere that they were focusing more on puzzles. And they seem to be introducing more open ended exploration. I know none of that eliminates the possibility of action and set pieces. I just don't see this having much/many of those things.

 

[Theslammer]

Uncharted 4 has some of the most seamless controls and gunplay I've encountered. Nothing like taking some blind shots behind cover, swinging around and punching a guy from the air. 3 is one I remember having gunplay that felt off at first until it was patched.

But seriously, can "only one action sequence" be explained to me? I'm a little more than halfway through the game, and I've encountered quite a bit of them. If we're talking set pieces, that's still not accurate.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Uncharted 4 has some of the most seamless controls and gunplay I've encountered. Nothing like taking some blind shots behind cover, swinging around and punching a guy from the air. 3 is one I remember having gunplay that felt off at first until it was patched.

But seriously, can "only one action sequence" be explained to me? I'm a little more than halfway through the game, and I've encountered quite a bit of them. If we're talking set pieces, that's still not accurate.

I've learned to read every post on this forum with hyperbolic glasses on. Which means whatever someone says not it down a notch or two. Ppl know full well there's more than one so you aren't going to get a answer

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

The thing that bothers me more than the meagre support of PS4 PRO these days is that the more new PS4 games come , the less they take advantage of the console and DualShock 4 features. Motion controls are officially over for a long time now even for first party games Touch screen is just used for showing a map or score and not as gameplay elements. At least here in Hellblade they could have made the whispering sounds come from the controller speaker or to the earphone when hooked to the controller for more immersion. Let alone the use of PS Camera or streaming commands that change the gameplay or help you which were used in handful of games only.

 

[Deleted member 471617]

Just in case...spoilers....

Spoiler

Yeah...one action sequence in Uncharted 4 which I believe is chapter 10 if I remember correctly with you being dragged in the mud attached to the truck. That was it. There's no other action sequences like that and when I say action sequence, I mean that one, the building and train from U2 and the cargo plane from U3.

I guess you could add in the jeep when the tank is chasing you but after that, the tank becomes a repetitive nuisance that lasts throughout the game somehow to where when you destroy, another one pops up.

I don't consider that an action sequence. To me, an action sequence is like those I explained above and actually ends. The tank chasing you throughout the majority of U4 just isn't an action scene.

If anyone wants to consider the jeep/tank early on as an action scene, that's up to them but for me, I considered it to be a repetitive nuisance that doesn't end until the end of the game and even then, it comes back. No no no.

I simply think that U4 is highly overrated and outside of visuals, it's lacking in a lot of areas and just more negatives than positives for me personally. U2 is still by far and away the best in the series in my opinion.

When I first played Uncharted 1 and 2 which I did back to back after buying a slim PS3, they were both awesome because they literally made you feel like you were in an action packed Indiana Jones movie. Uncharted 3 was good but the romantic crap in U4 just becomes the main focal point and im sorry but that's NOT why im playing Uncharted.

In some ways, I actually prefer the original Uncharted over U4 because it succeeds in what it is. U4 is not even close. Only reason why I have U4 3rd instead of 4th is because visually it obviously looks better and the characters are obviously better and more developed since it's the fourth game in the series. But I can honestly say that I had more fun playing the original Uncharted than I did U4.

Moving on from that disappointment, im very much looking forward to TLL which for me at least will be the second best game in the franchise and the reason why im so confident in saying that is very simple - it's no longer being dragged down by the never ending romantic saga of Nate and Elena. They are gone thank God and hopefully, never come back. Let the other characters and new stories with new treasures to go after and find take center stage.

My only concern for TLL is that tank and hoping that if it's throughout an entire chapter, fine but if it turns out like U4 where it just keeps coming back, then yeah, that will be a major complaint. As long as that doesn't happen, im fully expecting at the very least, an easy 9/10 for me personally.

 

[Deleted member 471617]

Interesting! I do hope you end up being right since Uncharted is one of my favorite series. I still don't think you will be though

This is a strange statement: "and for me to be this excited says something in regards to how great TLL will be". You being excited for a game doesn't act as proof that it will turn out great.

I'm also pretty sure I've read impressions on here that the gameplay videos have contained some questionable voice acting and writing. And that it looked a bit boring. I haven't watched gameplay myself since I'm on media blackout.

Maybe the game will be more action packed than Uncharted 4, but I've seen no evidence of it.

It will be the lowest rated console Uncharted game, I predict.

The main reasons why I think that TLL will be great and better than U4 is simple - it's going to be what U4 should have been but wasn't and is no longer being dragged down by the never ending romantic saga of Nate and Elena.

From the gameplay videos I have watched which im sure has been all of them, TLL just looks like a return to form of the original trilogy in which it's an action packed Indiana Jones treasure hunting adventure. Story and characters will easily be better at least for me anyway than U4 because see, first paragraph.

A lot of U4 was boring, dragged, went way too long and the pacing was bad more than good. I don't think that TLL will suffer from any of these problems.

The 30 second video of TLL that was released yesterday has more action in it and are for the most part in different areas of the game than I experienced in the entirety of U4. I'm fully expecting an awesome jeep/tank sequence ala U4 but im hoping that once you pass it, the tank is gone and doesn't come back. Also expecting a good helicopter action sequence based on that 30 second video.

What else can I say? I was disappointed with U4 for so many reasons while TLL has me the most hyped and pumped since going into U2.

The original Uncharted has an 88 metacritic. TLL shouldn't score anything lower than a 90 and if it does, it will only be because the original characters aren't in the game but the reviews that mention that as a negative will be ignored by me for one simple reason - that very reason is what will make TLL better than U4.

Either way, im looking forward to August 22nd and best of all, im on vacation for 10 days after this coming Thursday. I get to go from Matterfall to TLL. Can't wait!!!