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White Supremacist says the N-word, catches a beating

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Shaanyboi

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I don't advocate for violence, but I don't feel bad at all what happened to this dude. What I do feel bad about is that lots of young, angry white kids will see this and be even more mad at black people.

The violence cycle keeps spinning up and up. I don't like where this is going. We're regressing as a society.

Yeah, the guy deserved it. But the black guy that gets retaliated against by someone who watched this video and let their hate rise won't deserve it.
Last I checked, black people weren't attacking random white people. If some angry white kid decides to attack a random black person because of a video like this, they didn't need much of a reason to do so in the first place.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
you don't think that dark skinned Hispanics catch a disproportionate amount of bullshit? Even from other Hispanics? Don't think this stuff doesn't exist.
that was exactly my point?
besides the point though. A white guy being a racist is basically a white supremacist, by definition. i don't see why anyone would argue this.

there's different levels of racist.
 

Bad_Boy

time to take my meds
Quick question. Do you think those who called you nigger growing up would oppose to the alt-right/kkk/white supremacists ending you in front of them?
I think some people lash out racial/racist slurs in anger or whatever it may be but i do not think every racist is actively participating in white supremacist / kkk events or discussions. That doesnt make them any less racist, but i think the former words are a much deeper hatred toward any poc.

that was exactly my point?


there's different levels of racist.
Exactly. Even though they are all bad and should be treated as such, there are still levels.

For example i think there are racists that dont believe in interracial marriage but i dont think they want all black people to die. I think white supremacist would enjoy the former. Sadly.
 
I cant say i agree.

I went to a all white high school growing up. racial slurs were common for me. But not every ignorant racist was a alt right/kkk/white supremacist.

Again I not defending video, i would gladly beat his ass too. I just dont think we should go around calling every ignorant person a white supremacist or kkk member.

I agree with your last sentence though. I wish we could be done with it. Its 2017.
That's fair. Maybe a better way is to go with racist as the umbrella term and condemn all the ways it can manifest to the same extent.
 

richiek

steals Justin Bieber DVDs
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The case that established the fighting words doctrine is great. The fighting word in question?

Fascist.
I mean you mentioned free speech. It isn't free speech. It's racist and inflammatory speech. I don't see how the word is fascist, could you explain?

Merriam Webster

"a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation"

I get the first part of the definition applying, but calling someone a slur is far cry from advocating for an authoritarian government. They could be a socialist, anarchist, republican, etc.
 
Last I checked, black people weren't attacking random white people. If some angry white kid decides to attack a random black person because of a video like this, they didn't need much of a reason to do so in the first place.
He's not saying it shouldn't have happened. He just laments some of the negative outcomes for POC (which is fair to feel bad about if there are any).
 

RMI

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that was exactly my point?


there's different levels of racist.

I'm not sure I follow. i'm saying that you can have white surpemacists even in hispanic communities. maybe there is some misunderstanding.

Also, I don't think we need to think too carefully about what level of racist a person is when they are calling a dude a N**** in public and throwing fists at him.
 

Nafai1123

Banned
Why do we need to actively distinguish between racists and white supremacists? If they're calling you the n-word they don't deserve an attempt at reasoned understanding of their beliefs. They deserve a beating.
 

Bad_Boy

time to take my meds
Why do we need to actively distinguish between racists and white supremacists? If they're calling you the n-word they don't deserve an attempt at reasoned understanding of their beliefs. They deserve a beating.
Because i think racists should be punished, in hopes they would change their ways. Its happened before.

But white supremacists, i wouldnt lose sleep if they all died.

There are levels.
 

RefigeKru

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I think some people lash out racial/racist slurs in anger or whatever it may be but i do not think every racist is actively participating in white supremacist / kkk events or discussions. That doesnt make them any less racist, but i think the former words are a much deeper hatred toward any poc.


Exactly. Even though they are all bad and should be treated as such, there are still levels.

For example i think there are racists that dont believe in interracial marriage but i dont think they want all black people to die. I think white supremacist would enjoy the former. Sadly.

The only reason I asked that question was because I personally don't believe that those kinds of people will ever forge any type of opposition to violence from kkk/alt-right/nazis.

At that point is it worth considering their hatred any different?

I'm also going knee deep on twitter daily into their world and honestly I'm thinking any form of distinction is getting thinner by the day.
 
Like racists were going to hold back until this shit popped.
If there's a general sense in the culture that violence is escalating then that can result in greater escalation. Again, all I'm saying is that it's fair to be concerned about that as long as you agree that the beatdown was merited.
 

Two Words

Member
My feelings on stuff like this has been pretty consistent. I personally don't respond similarly to being racially attacked, which has happened to me a few times. But my feeling is that if you are intentionally goading people over such sensitive topics, I'm not going to feel sorry for you if they respond in a not-so-respectful manner. Insulting somebody's race, family, etc. so severely is just asking for them to react physically. We're human. We have limits to our patience and tolerance. Stop trying to test those limits.
 
That one white dude thought "well, he started this, let's see how it ends" lol.

Anyway. I'm not for violence but i'm all for self defense. And he self defensed the fuck out of that dumb fuck.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Please, elaborate We talking tiers or sayan levels?
tiers like this person elaborates on.https://sarondipityuniverse.wordpress.com/2017/08/13/charlottesville-was-my-fault-2/

I'm not sure I follow. i'm saying that you can have white surpemacists even in hispanic communities. maybe there is some misunderstanding.

Also, I don't think we need to think too carefully about what level of racist a person is when they are calling a dude a N**** in public and throwing fists at him.
true enough.
 

Bad_Boy

time to take my meds
The only reason I asked that question was because I personally don't believe that those kinds of people will ever forge any type of opposition to violence from kkk/alt-right/nazis.

At that point is it worth considering their hatred any different?
defending the alt right and acting in their manner are two different things. Hell i work with undercover racists in the military. But i dont think they want me dead like a white supremacist/kkk member would.


I'm also going knee deep on twitter daily into their world and honestly I'm thinking any form of distinction is getting thinner by the day.
youre not wrong on this.
 

andthebeatgoeson

Junior Member
https://youtu.be/X6JN4VDPt3Y

Found the full video, do the pussy in the orange actually started swinging first then his shorter friend intervened and got an ass whopping.
So orange top is trying to take Karen home if he lets little dude die.

I see you, pleighboi!

Karen really the 🐐 in all this. She was the only person to lay hands on dude. I mean, he looked at her, like, 'gurl, what you doing?'

Gandalf should have just pointed instead of yelling, 'you shall not pass' and I kinda feel like things would have been different in that movie.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
This is not how you solve disagreements, this why BLM is racist.







/sarcasm

dude, dude. I have a friend i went to college with thats from Charlottesville she posted in a very negative light about the nazis in her town. Literally the first response was some old white lady saying yea same with those BLM thugs.
 
Fuck that guy, nice to see people getting what's coming to them.

I'm in a weird place now. I was raised to believe that violence was never right, but also that evil must be corrected/punished. How can I advocate for "non-violent resistance" when the people we resist literally drive cars into our crowds? It's making me re-examine my core principles.

One thing I will say is this: people who think this is about political violence are dead wrong. this is violence between the oppressors and the oppressed. It's survival.

I don't know, my message is conflicting itself all over the place. I feel the same way now as I did when I realized my own privilege, perhaps I wasn't as aware of it as I previously thought? Food for the mind I suppose.
 

mlclmtckr

Banned
that moment when you realize that watching MMA on television and wearing MMA merch doesn't actually prepare you for a fist fight

We should physically crush anyone who calls us names, yeah. That's my highest aspiration

if you think that directing white supremacist invective at a black person is 'calling them names' then uh
 
I can't believe both parties would besmirch such a well regarded establishment such as the waffle house with these kinds of shenanigans.
 
We should physically crush anyone who calls us names, yeah. That's my highest aspiration

Since forever if you provoke and provoke and provoke someone and they snap people don't feel bad for the shit starter. People have limits, pretending that calling black people nigger is so benign that they will never react is so obtuse. What world do you live in?
 

Jobbs

Banned
that moment when you realize that watching MMA on television and wearing MMA merch doesn't actually prepare you for a fist fight



if you think that directing white supremacist invective at a black person is 'calling them names' then uh

While you guys are cheering on the physical assault of a racist you may not be realizing that this sort of thing, especially going viral, feeds into their narrative that black people are violent thugs and helps them.

Beyond that, I can't really see what happened and am just going by what the tweet says, but I don't think beating someone up for calling you names is the correct course of action.

Since forever if you provoke and provoke and provoke someone and they snap people don't feel bad for the shit starter. People have limits, pretending that calling black people nigger is so benign that they will never react is so obtuse. What world do you live in?

I don't feel bad for the shit starter, but I'm not going to cheer on someone physically assaulting someone else because it doesn't solve or help anything. It may be cathartic for some, but it's equally motivating to the alt right side
 

Dali

Member
Did he try to hook his leg for the pin at the end? Lol
Honestly the whole fight looked like a pro wrestling match: The exaggerated punching motions at the beginning, the way he'd interrupt himself and taunted the teammates that were trying to get tapped in, while doing his back the fuck up interruption the way the racist just lay there on his back waiting for the action to resume. Great production overall. Would watch again.
 
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