SomedayTheFire
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Crackdown 3 delayed to Spring 2018
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Theyve discontinued it , and they have since bought Mine raft
PuppetMaster
Member
And to think only months ago people thought MS was holding this back for Scorpio....
Time to take this horse out back and shoot it.
Time to take this horse out back and shoot it.
SomedayTheFire
Member
It never was a thing.
tbh the way the game has been demo'd recently, i think it's kinda hard to know if that's true or not. unless of course a bunch of celebs playing the game badly at SDCC is proof of it or something?
it's just been handled poorly so far. revealed too early with a CGi trailer. an initial focus on it's cloud based destruction which is only in the MP. sporadic test footage showing off bad animations and poor destruction...and then about a year of radio silence. and when it's re-revealed they cut together a crappy trailer with average visuals and demo the game using non gamer celebrities at SDCC...and now a delay.
things couldn't be going worse for this title
There are countless firsthand experiences on the game online, it was playable by press AND the public at E3
It isnt going to change significantly being delayed from the November to Spring (which is likely to be before April 1st)
AusRoachman
Member
Very disappointing , was really looking forward to trying it despite the lacklustre showings so far.
Now there is nothing worth even firing my Xbox up for as I have no interest in forza or sea of thieves .
Now there is nothing worth even firing my Xbox up for as I have no interest in forza or sea of thieves .
Colbert
Banned
Ori, as much it is a beautiful game, is developed by a really small virtual team.
The Forza Horizon franchise is a joint effort with Turn 10 which is capable to provide the support I was talking about as a 1st party studio.
I was focused on bigger development efforts when talking about insufficient 1st party dev capabilities to support 3rd party development. It is also a personal opinion which could be completely off the charts as I have no real insight into how those projects are/were managed in reality.
Fredrik
Member
Probably not a good idea to launch a console without any 1st party games either. They're really banking on the hardware and 4K to generate the hype on it's own right now.
I get it. The E3 showing was very disappointing and MS probably listened to the feedback. The fact they aren't sending it out to die, like ReCore, is probably a good sign. It's a gamble bound to pay off; additional development costs for a game that (potentially) sells well will be better than what was looking like a flop (based on reactions I've seen).
Yeah, but frankly I find Mine raft sounds like a poor attempt at confusing people who mean to buy the vastly superior and more successful Minecraft from Mojang. Mine raft is alright, but why would you care about bringing so many minerals on what is essentially your tiny lifeboat?
I don't get it.
Sorry, it's early and I haven't had my coffee yet.
The Cartographer
Member
I doubt they'll turn the game around with this exta devolpment time.
VincentMatts
Member
I'm ok with this, looked very meh at e3
Chobel
Member
Here's the context of that article: https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/844691056830509056
It seems clearly that "launch games" here means new titles.
Here's the context of that article: https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/844691056830509056
It seems clearly that "launch games" here means new titles.
People shoud really stop taking Phil's tweets at face value now.
Savantcore
Unconfirmed Member
Well, he's not wrong, ha.
MilkyJoe
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Here's the context of that article: https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/844691056830509056
It seems clearly that "launch games" here means new titles.
Phil seldom will answer straight on something like that, the reply he said could most likely be referring to 4K upgrades to existing games, as well as the likes of Forza 7 etc.
Think politician speak.
Here's the context of that article: https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/844691056830509056
It seems clearly that "launch games" here means new titles.
He said it was critical, they failed to deliver in a somethat impressive way even, now they'll have to change their tune again. It's just PR. People shoud stop expecting a more "human" or "natural" behaviour from Phil Spencer. He's just a brand manager like everyone else.
Fredrik
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Critical enough to delay the launch? Probably not. I hope they really put in some serious effort patching old games instead now.Here's the context of that article: https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/844691056830509056
It seems clearly that "launch games" here means new titles.
These only serve as an attempt to cover the cracks for Microsoft.
I don't know about the narrative the ID@Xbox is better than Sony's indies. Over the whole gen, I've been pretty consistently baffled at how many smaller digital games are absent on Xbox. Just in the past couple of weeks, PS4 got Hellblade and Undertale, for example. Can't wait for Cuphead and Ori though.
FonkyByNature
Member
Well, the game looked like shit. Better delayed than releasing in that state.
Man, Microsoft are having a really bad gen. It's like a curse or something.
Man, Microsoft are having a really bad gen. It's like a curse or something.
SplitYourInfinities
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Platform holder X delays game, GAF says: "Good, better a delayed game than a bad one"
Platform holder Y delays game, GAF grabs pitchforks and torches.
Double standards son.
Platform holder Y delays game, GAF grabs pitchforks and torches.
Double standards son.
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
You really think so? It won't happen, the guy even had a "I believe in Phil Spencer" movement kind of thing.
lol
Well, I thought it looked a little rough around the edges so I am not surprised. On a side note, how many exclusives (console or total) does Microsoft have in 2017? It feels like every time I turned around this year Sony dropped another, but all I can think of for MS is that Halo game and maybe a Forza?
That is exactly what is happening, and you are very insightful for pointing it out to us all who didn't understand. Because it's not like there's a huge difference between the number and volume of releases on platforms, and that delaying one game out of twenty is a different matter compared to delaying one game out of two.
It's as if half the posters on GaF weren't actually on the internet during the 360 era. Gaf doesn't have a hive mind, and it doesn't favour one console over another. Gaf favour *games*. One console doesn't have them.
Family Fry
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Some developers may only be able afford one console when they take into account costs and time pending on size.
Naturally most would aim to launch on PS4 first because it has larger user-base. There have been a number of games though to launch on Xbox One first/launch exclusivity, in parts to do with ID@Xbox involvement, recently, Tacoma. Prior, Tokyo 42, Citites XL, Thimbleweed Park all of the Game Preview games and some more that have slipped my mind.
Some PS4 games do make it over, What Remains of Edith Finch recently, N++ is coming soon and Thumper is out tomorrow, which reminds I will need to tell everyone I know to buy Thumper. Amazing game.
eighty(one)
Member
Such an overused meme, lol
(Duke Nukem Forever, Aliens: Colonial Marines delayed for years were crappy at release)
Audioboxer
Member
Capturing all those clouds for use in Crackdown 3 was never going to be an easy task. *Shudder* Those were some outrageous internet argument days when 'the power of the cloud' meme was afloat. All it should have taken were some PC gamers to handle that blown out of proportion 'tech' and everyone to remain calm. But nah, it was another Project Milo 2.0 and many in the know with cloud technology or long-term PC gamers were told to back off and witness an evolution of The Cloud/Cloud Processing Power™.
That aside, Crackdown 3 did look rough when it was shown so not really surprised.
That aside, Crackdown 3 did look rough when it was shown so not really surprised.
Tyraniboah
Member
How much money have they poured into this game? It was supposed to be ready a year ago wasn't it? I'm sure this would be cancelled too if it wasn't a first party game. I was psyched for Crackdown 3, Scalebound, and Halo Wars 2 this year. One is cancelled, another delayed, and the only one released had a single player that wasn't as good as its predecessor's. This was supposed to be a great year and instead it's forgettable. Forza is a fantastic series, Cuphead and other indies look great, but what's the point? With no announcements that anything big is coming, why invest in an Xbox One if you don't already have one? Hell, a patch for MCC and a DLC add-on for a Halo 3 anniversary would have been better than this. Hopefully they've got something better planned for next year, but I'm not keeping my hopes up.
Chobel
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Immaculate
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just say Nintendo for platform x because we all know thats what you want to say
digoutyoursoul
Member
I agree to extent but when you have moderators gloating about sales numbers on twitter and mocking another platform in the process, it kind of makes you question the mentality of some people and if they have a agenda.
The tweet was deleted not long after, I wonder why
Edit: rewriting this to make it clearer.
The money they have given crackdown is probably extremely high now. Compared that to having just let scalebound and fable be finished and released and have had more exclusives to their name, seems like a bad move.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Delays like this are to be expected in the current age, where games are more complex and dev budgets have reached a point where he financial risks are too high for a publisher to just rush out an unfinished game.
Sony has seen a number of big AAA internal and externally developed game release dates slip.
On the other hand, this hurts MS a lot, since all it proves to do is highlight how woefully barren their first party release slate is for 2017.
For every game Sony has delayed, they've at least had the benefit of three to four (or more) other games on schedule to fill out the annual release slate.
MS Game Studios is not in a good place right now. And worst of all, they are launching hardware this year with literally one or two games available to show it off. I can honestly see the XB1X launch struggling through this holiday.
Sony has seen a number of big AAA internal and externally developed game release dates slip.
On the other hand, this hurts MS a lot, since all it proves to do is highlight how woefully barren their first party release slate is for 2017.
For every game Sony has delayed, they've at least had the benefit of three to four (or more) other games on schedule to fill out the annual release slate.
MS Game Studios is not in a good place right now. And worst of all, they are launching hardware this year with literally one or two games available to show it off. I can honestly see the XB1X launch struggling through this holiday.
loli pantsu
Member
I really hate to say this but Scalebound, despite being so annoyingly edgy, seems like a more interesting game than what I've seen so far for Crackdown 3.
Oh well...
Oh well...
Here's the context of that article: https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/844691056830509056
It seems clearly that "launch games" here means new titles.
Haha Phil sure knows how to Tweet. That answer could go both ways, regardless of the context.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Mods are individuals too, no? Are they not allowed to have their personal platform preferences?
There's no need to project the opinions of a forum mod across the entire membership of a forum gaming community. People here on gaf routinely disagree with and debate mods on a plethora of matters and the mods graciously accommodate such.