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Elise from Fire Emblem Fates confirmed for Fire Emblem Warriors

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AlexFlame116

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People if you must compare the two then wait until the full roster is revealed. I bet many of you are just disappointed with the lack of characters from the older games but who knows maybe the character reveals might change your mind! Where Hyrule Warriors was the experiment that somehow worked, Fire Emblem Warriors is the next phase so let's give it time.
 
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Sandfox

Member
AlexFlame116 said:
People if you must compare the two then wait until the full roster is revealed. I bet many of you are just disappointed with the lack of characters from the older games but who knows maybe the character reveals might change your mind! Where Hyrule Warriors was the experiment that somehow worked, Fire Emblem Warriors is the next phase so let's give it time.
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Warriors games typically pull from a small part of franchise and then expand over time.
 
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SkyOdin

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I don't know why anyone is surprised that Elise is in. Right after the initial character announcements, I called that the entire set of royalty from Fates would be in. It is a fairly gameplay-diverse set of characters who the entire pair of games are built around.

Lunar15 said:
I'm wondering if SD characters are going to be the DLC focus. I can't see Caeda not being in the main cast, but other than that I can't see anyone else being necessary. Cain?
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Tiki and Caeda are guaranteed, while Minerva, Merric, Linde, and Hardin are all likely. Camus is very likely going to be used as an enemy commander.
 
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Feffe

Member
FEW may very well be a better game than HW (we'll see about that) but it looks like a bad celebration of the overall series. At this time we have no reason to believe characters or major elements from the Jugdral, Elibe, Valencia, Tellius and Magvel games will appear, expecially since we have #FE as a bad precedent (it only had mirages from Akaneia/Ylisse). Their excuse was that they don't want too many sword users, but guess what, we are ending up with with large cast... made mainly by sword users (from FE13-14).

Ocarina of Time was released 16 years before Hyrule Warriors and was featured prominently. At this point I don't think any of the early 00s FEs will have a big role (or will be featured at all).

Of course I might be very wrong and we might end up with Pent and Louis (together), the Black Knight and Levin playable. I'll eat my words if that happens. But be honest, it's unlikely.
 
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L95

Member
Feffe said:
Ocarina of Time was released 16 years before Hyrule Warriors and was featured prominently. At this point I don't think any of the early 00s FEs will have a big role (or will be featured at all).
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Yeah, they said in an interview that the game's "mostly" Awakening, Fates, and Shadow Dragon.

"Mostly" seems to have been said to cover the OCs they made for the game which aren't from those games(?)
 
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LordKano

Member
Feffe said:
FEW may very well be a better game than HW (we'll see about that) but it looks like a bad celebration of the overall series. At this time we have no reason to believe characters or major elements from the Jugdral, Elibe, Valencia, Tellius and Magvel games will appear, expecially since we have #FE as a bad precedent (it only had mirages from Akaneia/Ylisse). Their excuse was that they don't want too many sword users, but guess what, we are ending up with with large cast... made mainly by sword users (from FE13-14).

Ocarina of Time was released 16 years before Hyrule Warriors and was featured prominently. At this point I don't think any of the early 00s FEs will have a big role (or will be featured at all).

Of course I might be very wrong and we might end up with Pent and Louis (together), the Black Knight and Levin playable. I'll eat my words if that happens. But be honest, it's unlikely.
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It isn't supposed to be a celebration of the serie. It's aiming to be a new franchise of Fire Emblem spin-offs, unlike Hyrule Warriors who was a one-shot that likely won't ever get a sequel.
They haven't announced any swords users since Lucina and by next week, if Azura and Sakura are announced, there will be more non-sword users than the opposite. The final roster should be pretty balanced.
EDIT : actually, counting Elise, there's already a majority of non-sword users.
 
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DecoReturns

Member
Feffe said:
FEW may very well be a better game than HW (we'll see about that) but it looks like a bad celebration of the overall series. At this time we have no reason to believe characters or major elements from the Jugdral, Elibe, Valencia, Tellius and Magvel games will appear, expecially since we have #FE as a bad precedent (it only had mirages from Akaneia/Ylisse). Their excuse was that they don't want too many sword users, but guess what, we are ending up with with large cast... made mainly by sword users (from FE13-14).

Ocarina of Time was released 16 years before Hyrule Warriors and was featured prominently. At this point I don't think any of the early 00s FEs will have a big role (or will be featured at all).

Of course I might be very wrong and we might end up with Pent and Louis (together), the Black Knight and Levin playable. I'll eat my words if that happens. But be honest, it's unlikely.
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Ocarina of Time is the most popular Zelda title. That's why they used it. Skyward Sword was the most recent and Twlilight princess was the best selling.

In Fire Emblem. Fates and Awakening are more "popular" worldwide then the older titles. Both are the best selling in the series. Then you have SD, the a remake of the first Fire Emblem game.

I mean, HW got a ton is support, why wouldn't Fire Emblem Warriors get the same? Honestly tho, if they picked all the favorites, we'll still end up with tons of Sword users
 
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brinstar

Member
I remember HW coming under a lot of flack for not having Wind Waker (and more) content initially too. The two games seem pretty analogous to me-- focusing on 3 major titles at first. Hopefully classic FE fans will have some bones thrown to them via DLC. It'd be a shame to not have Lyn in this!
 
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Feffe

Member
I perfectly get why they are focusing on the latest, million-seller games. That doesn't mean I have to like a game which is supposed to be about a large cast of Fire Emblem characters when literally nobody I care about is there and (in contrast with Hyrule Warriors) nothing from the games I enjoyed is featured.

Oh and we might end up with 51% of non sword-users and 49% of sword users, but that's far from "pretty balanced".
 
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LordKano

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Feffe said:
I perfectly get why they are focusing on the latest, million-seller games. That doesn't mean I have to like a game which is supposed to be about a large cast of Fire Emblem characters when literally nobody I care about is there and (in contrast with Hyrule Warriors) nothing from the games I enjoyed is featured.

Oh and we might end up with 51% of non sword-users and 49% of sword users, but that's far from "pretty balanced".
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Nobody is asking you to like it, but don't pretend that HW is in any way better than FEW, that's just objectively false.
And it will be much more balanced than that. They pretty much already announced every sword users that would be in the game, and with the upcoming Azura/Sakura + the most likely Tiki/Tharja/Caeda, it will only further improve the balance.
 
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Neoxon

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CronoShot said:
Pls stop with the Fates characters. There's already too many.

And why is Marth still the only character from his game.
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We still have another 7 characters (minimum) remaining if we go by the character cards in the special edition. Of course, when you factor in Sakura, Azura, Male Corrin, Tharja, & Tiki as far as safe bets go, that only leaves us with 2 characters left (minimum). Of course, if the alternate versions of Robin & Corrin aren't counted amongst the character cards (hence me saying "minimum" next to the characters-remaining-count), then we'd have 4 more characters to look forward to.
 
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Xbro

Member
Zelda and Fire Emblem are really not comparable in rosters. Zelda you really could have just added the recurring characters and it still would have been a celebration of the series.
 
NeonZ

NeonZ

Member
Leafhopper said:
I thought everyone was on board with Fire Emblem just being Awakening, Fates, Marth and new people now a days though.

That's what Nintendo told me.
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Nah, IS/Nintendo is pretty good with balanced representation throughout the series, especially when they have the international market in mind. Look at FE Heroes for example, or the existence of Echoes. Both times we got "Shadow Dragon and new games only" it was actually a collaboration with other companies (Atlus and now Koei).
 
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Feffe

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LordKano said:
Nobody is asking you to like it, but don't pretend that HW is in any way better than FEW, that's just objectively false.
And it will be much more balanced than that. They pretty much already announced every sword users that would be in the game, and with the upcoming Azura/Sakura + the most likely Tiki/Tharja/Caeda, it will only further improve the balance.
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The first trailer of HW featured the moblins from SS, a dodongo from OoT and Link using the fire road from ALTTP. Then in the E3 trailer you had Midna from TP and the Moon from MM, among other thing.
Sure the cast was from OoT, TP and SS (but these games cover three generations of Nintendo consoles by the way) but you had several elements from all across the the series.
FEW is just Awakening&Fates. And Marth (which is still heavily connected to Awakening).
 
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Star Orpheus

Member
I honestly feel bad because as a fan who really only got into modern Emblem I'm glad most of the roster is from those games as I know these characters more and like them. But I also understand why that irritates old school fans.
 
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Leafhopper

Banned
NeonZ said:
Nah, IS/Nintendo is pretty good with balanced representation throughout the series, especially when they have the international market in mind. Look at FE Heroes for example, or the existence of Echoes. Both times we got "Shadow Dragon and new games only" it was actually a collaboration with other companies (Atlus and now Koei).
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Oh true. I should have probably said that better. It is mainly the collab stuff done by others that is guilty of this.
 
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Galang

Banned
Tharja will be in this right?! A mess if not considering they're going with recent entries. I personally don't mind them doing this, but at least be smart with the choices
 
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Leafhopper

Banned
Galang said:
Tharja will be in this right?! A mess if not considering they're going with recent entries. I personally don't mind them doing this, but at least be smart with the choices
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Yeah that would be...an oversight if she isn't if they are going to make choices based off the recent games.
 
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Star Orpheus

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Galang said:
Tharja will be in this right?! A mess if not considering they're going with recent entries. I personally don't mind them doing this, but at least be smart with the choices
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I fully expect her and Gaius to be in considering we already have Chrom and Cordelia.
 
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Oddish1

Member
Star Orpheus said:
I honestly feel bad because as a fan who really only got into modern Emblem I'm glad most of the roster is from those games as I know these characters more and like them. But I also understand why that irritates old school fans.
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Don't feel bad. I'm someone who got in with the first localized Fire Emblem game and bought them all up to now and I'm fine with them focusing on newer games.
 
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sinonobu

Banned
New Famitsu Info

https://www.famitsu.com/news/201709/05141071.html

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-Sakura officially revealed
-The game will feature class change like previous FE.
-The game has 'History Mode' that recreates the scenes from previous FE.
 
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Gradivus

Member
sinonobu said:
New Famitsu Info

https://www.famitsu.com/news/201709/05141071.html

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-Sakura officially revealed
-The game will feature class change like previous FE.
-The game has 'History Mode' that recreates the scenes from previous FE.
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History mode sounds more pleasing than the boring adventure mode in Hyrule Warriors, but we'll need to wait and see.
I sorta wish the fates cast wasn't so heavily focused on the royals, but I can deal with it ( I hope Shadow Dragon's cast is more pleasing).
 
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LordKano

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Scans describing the story and systems are starting to appear, can't link them but in one of them you can see Validar from Fire Emblem Awakening (non-playable apparently but might be a boss or something).
EDIT : thanks to Blackkite here : https://twitter.com/bk2128/status/905108444889268224
- Class Change confirmed, also by using Master Seal item. Shion/Rowan (& Lianna) can promote from Lord to Master Lord.
- will have Skill system. Can equip up to 3 skills. Skills are unlocked by bonding with other characters.
- has Emblem Shop system, apparently involving using materials & permanent stat boosts... need better scan to scrutinize
- History Mode is separate from Story Mode. It retells the original story of each FE game featured.
- In History Mode you'd move charas on 2D grids like the original SRPG. When ally adjacent to enemy, battle will trigger
- Famitsu shows that Validar will appear but as enemy NPC. Scenes in History Mode will also be fully voiced.
- And Famitsu notes that this History Mode map is from Shadow Dragon. Hope we can get better look at tomorrow's HQ scans

History mode sounds like the equivalent of Adventure mode in Hyrule Warriors, but with an actual story.
 
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Codeblue

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brinstar said:
I remember HW coming under a lot of flack for not having Wind Waker (and more) content initially too. The two games seem pretty analogous to me-- focusing on 3 major titles at first. Hopefully classic FE fans will have some bones thrown to them via DLC. It'd be a shame to not have Lyn in this!
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I'm not sure anyone wants to buy a fan service game with characters from games they don't like to buy DLC for characters they do like.
 
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LordKano

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I'm quite surprised at how meaty the game is. To compare with Hyrule Warriors it's night and day :
- Likely between 25 and 30 characters vs 12 at launch.
- Main campaign, History mode, Coliseum (for now) vs Legend mode and Adventure mode.
- Entirely and fully voiced game vs only text (obviously it was a deliberate choice but still, it will be a nice change of pace).
- A lot of Fire Emblem mechanics crammed into the gameplay (triangle weapon, class changes, skills, bonds, units pairing, strategic movement via the map, etc) vs the only distinct Zelda mechanics I remember in Hyrule Warriors's gameplay were the different items you could use and the bosses appearence in some levels.
- + all the QoL changes and visual enhancements that are kinda expected since Hyrule Warriors launched 3 years ago.

It's by far the most ambitious first musou in a collaboration serie. My take is that they were surprised by the sales of Hyrule Warriors and are trying to take these Nintendo collaborations as seriously as possible.
 
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Fandangox

Member
How does the class system works on here? Does each unit get a specific moveset for their re-class? like the limited upgrading options from sacred stones, which on Musou would be like the different weapons some characters got? Or would it be a generic moveset all characters can share and re-class into like some of the Dynasty and Samurai Warrior games?
 
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PK Gaming

Member
LordKano said:
Scans describing the story and systems are starting to appear, can't link them but in one of them you can see Validar from Fire Emblem Awakening (non-playable apparently but might be a boss or something).
EDIT : thanks to Blackkite here : https://twitter.com/bk2128/status/905108444889268224
- Class Change confirmed, also by using Master Seal item. Shion/Rowan (& Lianna) can promote from Lord to Master Lord.
- will have Skill system. Can equip up to 3 skills. Skills are unlocked by bonding with other characters.
- has Emblem Shop system, apparently involving using materials & permanent stat boosts... need better scan to scrutinize
- History Mode is separate from Story Mode. It retells the original story of each FE game featured.
- In History Mode you'd move charas on 2D grids like the original SRPG. When ally adjacent to enemy, battle will trigger
- Famitsu shows that Validar will appear but as enemy NPC. Scenes in History Mode will also be fully voiced.
- And Famitsu notes that this History Mode map is from Shadow Dragon. Hope we can get better look at tomorrow's HQ scans

History mode sounds like the equivalent of Adventure mode in Hyrule Warriors, but with an actual story.
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The game looks pretty damn promising

If it does well review-wise, I could see a bunch of haters jumping onboard

On the other hand, if it sucks...
 
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HiroTSK5

Member
More than anything else I want to know how class change will work: will it be new move sets? Costume Change? Weapons? Passive skills?
 
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simonshinra

Neo Member
I wish they'd release some info on the 3DS version :/ I know it's gonna be very similar to HWL (even though I hope that being N3DS exclusive they polished the graphics and frame-rate a bit) but the total lack of information is worrying. Hope they'll release a demo, at least.
 
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