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Wkd BO 09•01-03•17 - Labor Day WEAKend box office has nothing as Bodyguard 3peats

Pachimari

Member
Bought my ticket for Blade Runner 2049 as well.
I'm all set for October now. Blade Runner and Thor. What a month.
I will continue that streak with Justice League in November, and Star Wars: The Last Jedi in December. That's it for me this year.
 

Boke1879

Member
WOM is going to do this movie wonders. I'm expecting huge numbers today and tomorrow.

Sunday might be low because of Football
 

WaffleTaco

Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Part of it is nostalgia for me. IT scared the crap out of me as a kid.
That I can see why people would like it.

The story of IT is so much more than "scary clown". It's a dark Spielbergian adventure and coming of age story in the middle of a epic lovecraftian horror tale and an equally dark story of domestic terror


Strong characters + a strong coming of age story + creepy memorable villain + very wide audience appeal
(from current teens to mid-40s who first saw the miniseries as teens to long time King fans) + the resurgence of 80s horror and nostalgia with Stranger Things, It Follows, etc
Oh okay. I genuinely thought it was just a killer clown movie, at least that's what one of the trailers led me to believe. Wasn't aware that it was a coming of age story as well.
 
Oh okay. I genuinely thought it was just a killer clown movie, at least that's what one of the trailers led me to believe. Wasn't aware that it was a coming of age story as well.
I think Strangers Things has also rekindled 'coming of age' movies so IT also benefits from it.
 
The thing with IT is that it also leaves the door open for a strong sequel. I haven't read the book but I heard that the second part of the story is usually weaker? I feel like Warner Bros. has the opportunity to deliver a very strong 'finale' with the second part by improving on the flaws of the book. Of course, if IT manages to become HUGE and I mean $300-400 million worldwide huge, Warner Bros. are going to keep churning out movies for the series one way or another.

It's not a flaw of the book. The narratives happen concurrently with the adult sections frequently being used as a large scale framing device. I'm not sure how it works out page count-wise but, in a lot of ways, the kids section is the real meat of the book. However the adult material interweaves masterfully with the kid material in the finale giving what IMO is King's strongest ending section ever.

It's natural that the kids section is what was decided to be used in condensing things into one initial film but it by necessity leaves the adult material kind of stranded without a strong anchor. It was never meant to be a Part 1, Part 2 situation even though that's the approach the mini-series and now the films are taking.

So, yeah, they are going to have to work extra hard at making the adult stuff satisfying as a sequel but it's not because of a shortcoming of the book.
 

kswiston

Member
Some comparisons among the biggest R-Rated openers in the last few years (since Thursday previews became the industry standard)

Code:
TITLE			OPENING WKD	THURS PREVIEWS	IT's OW WITH SAME PREVIEWS MULT.
Deadpool		$132.4M		$12.7M		$141M
Logan			$89.3M		$9.5M		$127M
Fifty Shades of Grey	$85.2M		$8.6M		$134M
Straight Outta Compton	$60.2M		$5.0M		$163M
22 Jumpstreet		$57.1M		$5.5M		$140M
50 Shades Darker 	$46.6M		$5.7M		$110M


The last column lists IT's weekend take if it has the same Thursday previews to full opening weekend multiplier as each of those films. As you can see, there aren't many comparison points, but IT can comfortably have the highest previews frontloading of any of those films and hit $100M.
 

snap

Banned
Some comparisons among the biggest R-Rated openers in the last few years (since Thursday previews became the industry standard)

Code:
TITLE			OPENING WKD	THURS PREVIEWS	IT's OW WITH SAME PREVIEWS MULT.
Deadpool		$132.4M		$12.7M		$141M
Logan			$89.3M		$9.5M		$127M
Fifty Shades of Grey	$85.2M		$8.6M		$134M
Straight Outta Compton	$60.2M		$5.0M		$163M
22 Jumpstreet		$57.1M		$5.5M		$140M
50 Shades Darker 	$46.6M		$5.7M		$110M


The last column lists IT's weekend take if it has the same Thursday previews to full opening weekend multiplier as each of those films. As you can see, there aren't many comparison points, but IT can comfortably have the highest previews frontloading of any of those films and hit $100M.

and iirc the 50 Shades movies are both uncommonly front loaded so IT would have to be insanely front loaded not to hit three digits
 

Certinty

Member
Some comparisons among the biggest R-Rated openers in the last few years (since Thursday previews became the industry standard)

Code:
TITLE			OPENING WKD	THURS PREVIEWS	IT's OW WITH SAME PREVIEWS MULT.
Deadpool		$132.4M		$12.7M		$141M
Logan			$89.3M		$9.5M		$127M
Fifty Shades of Grey	$85.2M		$8.6M		$134M
Straight Outta Compton	$60.2M		$5.0M		$163M
22 Jumpstreet		$57.1M		$5.5M		$140M
50 Shades Darker 	$46.6M		$5.7M		$110M


The last column lists IT's weekend take if it has the same Thursday previews to full opening weekend multiplier as each of those films. As you can see, there aren't many comparison points, but IT can comfortably have the highest previews frontloading of any of those films and hit $100M.
22 Jump Street was rated R? What in the heck?
 

Chamber

love on your sleeve
It can not play at all Sunday and still outgross Valerian.

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Buckle

Member
Happy to see evil clowns back in fashion.

Can we get another Killer Klowns from Outer Space now? Come onnnn..

That movie is fucking amazing.
 
It's not a flaw of the book. The narratives happen concurrently with the adult sections frequently being used as a large scale framing device. I'm not sure how it works out page count-wise but, in a lot of ways, the kids section is the real meat of the book. However the adult material interweaves masterfully with the kid material in the finale giving what IMO is King's strongest ending section ever.

It's natural that the kids section is what was decided to be used in condensing things into one initial film but it by necessity leaves the adult material kind of stranded without a strong anchor. It was never meant to be a Part 1, Part 2 situation even though that's the approach the mini-series and now the films are taking.

So, yeah, they are going to have to work extra hard at making the adult stuff satisfying as a sequel but it's not because of a shortcoming of the book.
I could see the adult movie being very effective

1) You zero in on the history of Derry, so the beginning/first act has a creepy cold case feel, as the realization that a new cycle is starting dawns. I think diving into the twisted nature of Derry works better for when the characters are adults as well. Plus you can juxtapose the element of "the adults who want to fight" against "the adults who willfully ignored and appeased"

2) You focus more on the domestic/psychological horror aspect, and then have the horror of IT being to bleed into the story.
 

Sinsem

Member
If you are not American, pretty much everything with more than one F-bomb, or the briefest shot of nudity, is rated R.

This will always look crazy from my french perspective.
I remember when the first 50 shades came out, they made it 12+ and there was actually a debate during the rating session because many in the commission thought 12+ wasn't even necessary.
It is 12+ too.
 

kswiston

Member
This will always look crazy from my french perspective.
I remember when the first 50 shades came out, they made it 12+ and there was actually a debate during the rating session because many in the commission thought 12+ wasn't even necessary.
It is 12+ too.

Didn't you guys give The Wolf of Wall Street a 12 rating?
 

Sulik2

Member
Wow... If IT makes more than 100 million dollars this weekend, only October and January won't have an opening weekend in the nine digits.

Hopefully we start seeing more blockbusters in the late summer early fall because of this. Good movies can be successful in any month.
 

kswiston

Member
Despicable Me 3 officially broke $1B worldwide

Spider-Man Homecoming had a huge $22M opening day (including midnights) in China. It might hit $70M there this weekend.

Homecoming will probably top Batman v Superman worldwide. Passing GotG2 worldwide is a certainty.

We almost had a top 5 MCU film without Iron Man in it!
 
Despicable Me 3 officially broke $1B worldwide

Spider-Man Homecoming had a huge $22M opening day (including midnights) in China. It might hit $70M there this weekend.

Homecoming will probably top Batman v Superman worldwide. Passing GotG2 worldwide is a certainty.

We almost had a top 5 MCU film without Iron Man in it!

Truly the most successful bomba ever
 

kswiston

Member
One of these days...

Well, technically, there were non-Iron Man films in the MCU Top 5 back when there weren't enough post-Avengers Iron Man films to fill a Top 5.

But those days are done, and the next two Avengers films will seal the deal.

Since Avengers, No film lacking Iron Man has topped any film with Iron Man in it worldwide.
 

Pachimari

Member
Is it realistic for Homecoming to surpass $890.000 ww? Wasn't it projected to do $140.000 in China? So it should be really damn close.
 
Spider-Man Homecoming is also shaping up to be the bigger franchise reboot... displacing Amazing Spider-Man.

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Homecoming is definitely not a flop but I remember all the "easy 1B" predictions on here. Same for GotG Vol. 2.

Everyone way over predicts these superhero movies. Well, except for Wonder Woman.
 

kswiston

Member
Glancing through the all-time opening weekend chart, anything over 50 Shades of Grey ($85.2M) gives IT a record for a film with a sub-$50M budget. Both the second Twilight and Deadpool managed $130M+ on budgets in the $50-60M range.
 

Anth0ny

Member
Despicable Me 3 officially broke $1B worldwide

Spider-Man Homecoming had a huge $22M opening day (including midnights) in China. It might hit $70M there this weekend.

Homecoming will probably top Batman v Superman worldwide. Passing GotG2 worldwide is a certainty.

We almost had a top 5 MCU film without Iron Man in it!

GO SPIDER-MAN!
 

El Topo

Member
Homecoming is definitely not a flop but I remember all the "easy 1B" predictions on here. Same for GotG Vol. 2.

Yeah, but that might have been because people forgot to take the exchange rate into account. I'm pretty sure that, contrary to what I posted a few weeks ago, even Sony will ultimately be very happy.
 

Random Human

They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
When I predicted mid-70 million for IT, I forgot to adjust for inflation, so I actually meant $106 million.
 
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