would that be a problem, long term, for the parts of the screen that turn to black while watching video? (the top and bottom that turn to black as if they were bezels)
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iPhone X | OT | November 3
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would that be a problem, long term, for the parts of the screen that turn to black while watching video? (the top and bottom that turn to black as if they were bezels)
Okay, I think you are taking "cinematic experience" a bit far. Of course a phone is not going to replace the experience of dedicated theatre, but I don't believe anyone would expect that either.
Movies can be consumed how ever the viewer wishes, whether it's in a theatre, your home or on your phone/tablet. Otherwise, why would Netflix/iTunes/Blu-Ray/etc exist if you were only intended to watch in a theatre.
Still, there's 2 main screen resolutions with regards to video content.
16:9 and 2.35:1 (Netflix doing 2:1 for some of their shows)
If you engineer your screen around one aspect ratio, the other will suffer (black bars). I rather have the phone cater to what i (and i'm quite sure a larger share of the user base) use it for - 16:9 content, i.e. TV and Netflix shows, Youtube videos and anything shot by your cellphone camera.
This looks exactly like how the X handles a video of the same aspect ratio
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I think watching a film meant for a large format screen on an cellphone is detrimental to the experience you are supposed to have. Sure, "cinematic experience" might be taking it too far but when I talk about this type of experience I am including a home viewing experience on a sufficiently sized TV.
Can you imagine someone watching Dunkirk, Lawrence of Arabia on a phone? That just doesn't seem acceptable to me.
I agree with you, 16x9 is the preferred ratio for me as well... but not a complete deal breaker.
I was responding more to the idea that a phone shouldn't be used to watch videos, which obviously a large number of people (myself included) do.
But thats texting, surfing the web, reading, and shoting vertical videos for instagram. They designed the screen around that kind of usage. And I'm sure the largest share of the user base use their phones for exactly those scenarios.
yeah, because that's 16:9 content. Both phones are pillarboxed there.
I think for cinematic content, the S8 has ever so slightly smaller bottom and top bars because the screen's taller (cmiiw).
the image was meant to illustrate the glare issue, though.
the poster said it shouldn't be used to watch MOVIES. It should very much be used to consume video content, most of that content you want to consume on your phone (TV shows, Twitch streams, youtube videos - anything you watch on the toilet or during your commute, really) is shot / encoded in 16:9 though. - an aspect ratio that displays PERFECTLY on the iphone 6/7/8 screen, reasonably well on the iPhone X screen, but would have ludicrously large black bars on the side on an even taller phone.
uhm. yeah. That's what i'm saying. I think the fact that the phone still shows black 'bezels' when playing a scene from Wonder Woman, which so many seem to be hung up on, is not a fault of the phone's design, but a strong commitment to the content most people will consume.
It might not be the ideal way to view some content, but in no way does it make it unacceptable to me, but if you choose not to that's fine.
And for the record, I've watched many movies on my phone that would have been ideal for a full cinematic experience, and I still enjoyed them just fine. Hell, I watched 300 on a Zune HD with it's 3.3" screen. When you are killing time on your commute to work or a flight, it doesn't really matter that much.
Zeyphersan
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No worries, it looks like developers are already fixing UI issues.
That seems way worse to me than just having the whole column shifted to the right
No worries, it looks like developers are already fixing UI issues.
want to place a wager that apple will approve this developer's app update?
yes, in the opposite manner. Thus the areas that are constantly black (and less used), would appear different to the area that is constantly painting with different content.
burn in isn't "I have the word FUCK on my screen".. it's that areas of the screen look different than other areas because of static states compared to the areas around it. back in the days of CRT sets, if you watched a shitload of widescreen content on a projection 4:3 TV (I mean... a shitload...), you'd have the bars "burned in" to the screen. Even though nothing was showing there (black bars), those phosphors burned differently (less) than the other areas of the screen, thus appearing differently.
edit - "Attention Aware" can be turned off according to macrumors.. wonder the trade off between convenience and security..
The fugly notch is more of an issue the more people bring it up. I can see myself just forgetting about it after a while. You get used to it. I mean when I first got my 6, I hated the fugly antenna lines. These days don't even notice them.
All of these little monstrosities would never have happened under Jobs but no one is perfect. It's OK.
I got it confirmed I'll be able to get the 256GB X for about GBP900 on Vodafone 24mth contract. Will bite on that. I like my 2-2.5yr upgrade cycle at the moment.
All of these little monstrosities would never have happened under Jobs but no one is perfect. It's OK.
I got it confirmed I'll be able to get the 256GB X for about GBP900 on Vodafone 24mth contract. Will bite on that. I like my 2-2.5yr upgrade cycle at the moment.
I think the notch would be fine, even great, if they truly just used the space to the sides for the status bar. Keeps the status bar out of the way of screen real estate that would be better used by the actual content.
When an app is full screen or landscape (no status bar in notch), leave it black and it will blend in with the notch.
This implementation just looks awkward. Not sure why they're so dead set on using the space in apps.
When an app is full screen or landscape (no status bar in notch), leave it black and it will blend in with the notch.
This implementation just looks awkward. Not sure why they're so dead set on using the space in apps.
No worries, it looks like developers are already fixing UI issues.
Nope nope nope
No worries, it looks like developers are already fixing UI issues.
Ahahaha
They want this to be an iconic look. Like the unabashedly plastic 5C, this is unabashedly notched.
No worries, it looks like developers are already fixing UI issues.
This is goddamn terrible
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Lulz
How? I'm due for an upgrade in October from Vodafone so any decent offer less than £1000 and Id probably jump.
Nah, you'll take your shiity headphones and non-quick charging plug and you'll like it.
No worries, it looks like developers are already fixing UI issues.
They're just going to end up blacking out that top part.
A middle ground would be good for me. Keep apps full screen with the background bleeding into the ears, but dont have any active content drawn in the ear area.so you get the feel for more screen' but without messing up the layout of the app. So eg video playback wouldnt go into that area
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LMAO
Not permitted.
Embrace our Frankenstein creation or be cast out.
But also make sure not to place any of your UI elements near our dumb design decision
To illustrate the point as to what happens (to youtube and TV show consumption) when Apple were to design the iPhone Screen to fit 2.35:1 content at full height, centered and without the notch "nibbling" parts of the picture
now is when you remember than, even though video content may look more appealing (movies would look way better), most of the time, most people would be holding the phone vertically, and the bast majority of those people wouldn't like the compromise of having a much taller phone, as they would find it uncomfortable, and imposible to reach parts of the screen without the help of a second hand (as if you were using a tablet).
By the way, thanks Fliesen for all your posts explaining how watching videos wouldn't be affected by the strage screen shape.
I believe Giga pointed out it's a just a guideline, not a hard rule.
Vodafone is the mobile provider at work, all employees get 20% discount (I have to check but I believe this can also be passed to up to 5 friends and family).
So I'll just jump on the new RED 20GB+ plan with 256GB X and the reps have already indicated effective phone cost will be in the 900 ballpark (I think it's about 915).
Have a look round, no one bothers with the employee discount because most are not aware. If Vodafone supplies your firm you are very likely to get one.
NYR
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Shadax the wizard
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It's a nice design and all but it has no chance in hell to serve me when I'm rewatching the extended cut of lord of the rings this winter - as per tradition.
Anyone else think this is how apple should have used the notch?
It should look more like a seemless status bar rather than how they're doing it now.
I think that looks a lot better. They could also have the status bar even when the screen is off. Maybe include some customization stuff so you can decide whether you want to see time/reception/battery level/etc when the display is off. I suppose they can fix this in software but yea, their decisions so far are just weird.
If you're watching letterboxed content for the majority of your phone usage, absolutely.
Uneven screen wear IS burn in.
I play a text based game on my S7 (Kittens Game), and I have used it for probably a few hundred hours. Any black areas on the screen (e.g. text) that were static are now visibly burnt in to my screen. Those pixels were off, but since they've aged less than the pixels around them, they've now left a mild white imprint on my screen.
There's no image retention issue like plasma, however.
The Cowboy
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That looks great, so much better.Anyone else think this is how apple should have used the notch?
It should look more like a seemless status bar rather than how they're doing it now.
yeah, this is what I Was trying to get across earlier. burn-in most frequently manifests itself as an "image" in the screen, but what it actually is are parts of the screen wearing at a different rate than other parts.
So the black parts that are turned "off", wear slower than the parts that are constantly on. The result would be the main display area would be "burned in", thus seeing demarcation lines along the status bar.
and the explanation in this post explains what would happen long term by doing that. anything that ever used that area for anything else would look different as a result of that area wearing at a different rate than the rest of the screen.
Trojita
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No worries, it looks like developers are already fixing UI issues.
This looks like a photoshoop.
jimmypython
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Anyone else think this is how apple should have used the notch?
It should look more like a seemless status bar rather than how they're doing it now.
i believe this can be done with a software update.
Or custom wallpaper lolol
Trojita
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Anyone else think this is how apple should have used the notch?
It should look more like a seemless status bar rather than how they're doing it now.
Apple is one of the richest countries in the world, hires and can hire the best in the business, yet random people on the internet create better looking designs than them.
Stabby McSter
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Anyone else think this is how apple should have used the notch?
It should look more like a seemless status bar rather than how they're doing it now.
ios 12 exclusive
or x-2, whatever
see my post above. over time that would create burn-in (well reverse burn-in effectively, but the end result is the same)
If that space is only reserved for the status bar what's the problem?
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