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Paragon - Monolith Rising (final art pass/visual update, balancing/gameplay changes)

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ashecitism

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https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/v43

For the full release notes and all pictures and videos go to the link (You click on 5 pictures (Dawn, Dusk, Jungle River, Prime). Each has a short gameplay snippet and a gallery which ends in a short video). Update will go live on Thursday.

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whatever6352

Member
Been thinking of downloading the game again for about 2 weeks and this looks like it'll push me over the edge to download it when I get home.
 
S

Secret Character

Member
MisterAnderson said:
So this is the same map just visually revamped, right?
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Kind of. They've added a lot of improvements for movement. There used to be invisible walls for characters that could get really high vertically on the map (Kallari and Wukong) and those are all walk-able now. Jungle looks to be improved as well.
 
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jtan

Member
I wasn't expecting those changes to the Chests guess I better save mine up now until the update.

It's going to take a while to get used to that look of the towers (turrets now) lol
 
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MisterAnderson

Member
As someone who used to primarily jungle, I'm not sure how I feel about the Amber Link being removed. Seems like jungling has been reduced to simply roaming.
 
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Tyaren

Member
Paragon is such a good looking game. Not just tech-wise, I also really dig the art direction. Very underrated when people talk about best graphics in games.

I'd instantly buy it, if only it had a single player campaign. Such a shame. :(

Eggbok said:
Gonna make some gifs when the stream finishes! Map is gorgeous now.
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I'm also hoping for lotsa screenshots. I always do enjoy your Paragon shots. :)
 
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TharpDaddy

Member
Wow, looks great. Excited to give it a go on Thursday.

I'm glad they fixed the grass rendering distance, if i'm reading it right. Grass constantly popping in a few inches in front of me on PC max settings looked bad.
 
me0wish

me0wish

Member
Nikana said:
I've played a lot of smite. Could i jump into paragon you think?
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Played over 100 hours of Paragon, wish I invested that in Smite, but my friends won't play Smite because "it looks like a Chinese mobile game".

Paragon is super shallow, and the card system is annoying and is only there to make you pay for items, the revamped card system is supposed to fix all that but Epic clearly has no idea what they're doing.
 
Ploid 3.0

Ploid 3.0

Member
Looking forward to this. I've gotten so many skins for this over the past few months just by loot crate and key drops + ranking up. The game stats say I have 70+ skins, they must count default, and challenge skins.

I've been playing as much as I can over the past 3 days because I got a boost, and I am farming keys from the diamond chests. Currently my game looks like this.

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It's to the bare minimum because I'm multitasking. Sometimes I even play another game with this running in the background. It's vs AI and I watch the map to draw out the match as long as I can. Longer game = more exp. Add in the boost that I'm using and it's fast chest farm + Master skin and gold key after.

If they make solo vs AI = no exp after a certain point again, I'll at least got my use out of it before nerf. After this boost is up I'll be back to pretty Paragon, and it'll look even better with this update. I was already floored by it's beauty.

Edit: Checked the stream for a few seconds. This reminds me of Agora again! Love the lush vegetation and structure textures. I'm excited for tomorrow! You can now buy cards, the only card people need to get to complete the collection, Dune Winds.

Edit 2: This guy said Thursday you can see the map. That was a mistake right? Patch on Thursday and not Tuesday? Weird if true.
 
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PackAPunchedMick

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me0wish said:
Played over 100 hours of Paragon, wish I invested that in Smite, but my friends won't play Smite because "it looks like a Chinese mobile game".

Paragon is super shallow, and the card system is annoying and is only there to make you pay for items, the revamped card system is supposed to fix all that but Epic clearly has no idea what they're doing.
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900+ hours invested in paragon, do not listen to this guy.

Epic listen to the community on all things but the towers, which they don't intend on touching to keep the game times down.

The card system was recently given a QoL pass and works flawlessly.

And no, the card system doesn't encourage paying for items. You can only receive rep from playing the game, which then you can purchase the individual cards, all cards are given as rewards, either through chests, challenges and daily login bonuses, all of which are free.
 
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GuitarAtomik

Member
I keep meaning to get back in to this. Played closer to launch and found it pretty slow and wasn't a big fan of the card system but I know all of that has been overhauled once or twice over since.
 
Ploid 3.0

Ploid 3.0

Member
me0wish said:
Played over 100 hours of Paragon, wish I invested that in Smite, but my friends won't play Smite because "it looks like a Chinese mobile game".

Paragon is super shallow, and the card system is annoying and is only there to make you pay for items, the revamped card system is supposed to fix all that but Epic clearly has no idea what they're doing.
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The only card that's hard to get in this new card system is Dune Winds. Even before that you could get the cards easy by crafting. And now after this update you can just buy Dune Winds with reputations apparently. The new card system has a card upgrade system where you combine multiples of the same card to change the color of it's border in PVP, or increase it's stats a bit in PVE. There's cards flowing out of your boots and you will regret saying "I wish I had cards" or anything of the sort. Stinking card rewards, give me anything but cards I say.

After posting this I noticed something. CARDS!!
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MegaSackman

Member
It looks increidble, also most of the changes on heroes, game and cards are very welcome!

Except for nerfing Belica and Unstable Cyborg though, that hit me hard. -_-
 
Ploid 3.0

Ploid 3.0

Member
ashecitism said:
Any pics?
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Not on my end. It was in the stream. The last thing the guy did before he had to close it down.

Muriel flesh face, still white or whatever color her robot body is.

Belica, new makeup or something and hair style.

Sparrow, goodbye intricate braid, hello new 9 to 5 corporate simple braid over shoulder.

Those were the 3 he showed. Maybe they are new skins but I doubt that. Just for the face and hair? Nah.
 
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PackAPunchedMick

Member
Ploid 3.0 said:
Not on my end. It was in the stream. The last thing the guy did before he had to close it down.

Muriel flesh face, still white or whatever color her robot body is.

Belica, new makeup or something and hair style.

Sparrow, goodbye intricate braid, hello new 9 to 5 corporate simple braid over shoulder.

Those were the 3 he showed. Maybe they are new skins but I doubt that. Just for the face and hair? Nah.
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They added facial animations to these heroes, I'm guessing the changes you mentioned came along with them.
 
me0wish

me0wish

Member
PackAPunchedMick said:
900+ hours invested in paragon, do not listen to this guy.

Epic listen to the community on all things but the towers, which they don't intend on touching to keep the game times down.

The card system was recently given a QoL pass and works flawlessly.

And no, the card system doesn't encourage paying for items. You can only receive rep from playing the game, which then you can purchase the individual cards, all cards are given as rewards, either through chests, challenges and daily login bonuses, all of which are free.
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Everything that gives you cards is gained much easier if you pay.

I have 5000 hours in dota, and around 1200 hours in other mobas combined, Paragon is easily the most shallow, and the card system has no reason to exists, it limits your creativity, makes adopting to certain situations impossible.

More power to you if you enjoy it.
 
Ploid 3.0

Ploid 3.0

Member
PackAPunchedMick said:
They added facial animations to these heroes, I'm guessing the changes you mentioned came along with them.
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Ahhhh, interesting. So they added the voice stuff probably. Audio cues when abilities are used perhaps. I heard something about voice overs being added. I would imagine Muriel would just have audio coming out of a speaker, but that would not fit the advances of technology for this game. Fleshy face makes sense now. Thanks.
 
me0wish

me0wish

Member
Ploid 3.0 said:
The only card that's hard to get in this new card system is Dune Winds. Even before that you could get the cards easy by crafting. And now after this update you can just buy Dune Winds with reputations apparently.
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Didn't know that, thanks for the imformative post, might give it a another try as I enjoyed the game mechanically. Still, I think a deck system in a moba is terrible, it limits your options and adds nothing to the game.
 
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PackAPunchedMick

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me0wish said:
Didn't know that, thanks for the imformative post, might give it a another try as I enjoyed the game mechanically. Still, I think a deck system in a moba is terrible, it limits your options and adds nothing to the game.
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Did you play post-v42?

Every card (100+) can now be used by every hero.
 
Ploid 3.0

Ploid 3.0

Member
me0wish said:
Everything that gives you cards is gained much easier if you pay.

I have 5000 hours in dota, and around 1200 hours in other mobas combined, Paragon is easily the most shallow, and the card system has no reason to exists, it limits your creativity, makes adopting to certain situations impossible.

More power to you if you enjoy it.
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The only thing that is easier to get cards with is leveling up heroes, and as you can see from my screen, I do that without buying coins. (they give you some coins on daily stuff)

Exp and Rep boost is fixed at 100% for everyone. A person that buys can't get 500% boost for example. They just continue to extend their boost. I could have had boost for a long time if I didn't waste coins on loot boxes, keys, and hero packs. They give you a lot of coins at the start.

And again, getting cards from level up is kind of fixed/limited. Each character gives a specific card. It's not the most efficient way to fill up your collection, but it can help if you want to level the specific card up for a gold, or purple border in PVP. Each card reward in character levels is a pack of x10 cards. Also multiple characters give the same cards as a reward for leveling up.
 
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AyzOn

Neo Member
I got the game a couple a days ago because of a Nvidia promo that gave me a bunch of free stuff.
I´ve never really played a moba so Ive been playing against the ai because im afraid of the PvP lol

Looking forward to it anyways.
 
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MaLDo

Member
Is the new update already online?


Because I just tested the game and has the same problems than before:

Exclusive full screen mode doesn't allow downsampling.

Borderless full screen mode doesn't allow more than 100% resolution scale.

Antialiasing is awful.

Framerate has lots of hitches and stutters every time a new effect appears (or character).

Maybe some day I will play that game :(
 
Ploid 3.0

Ploid 3.0

Member
Seeing them side by side, what the heck did they do to Muriel. She was my favorite design. The face is flesh now, I loved that metallic face look. I wonder how her other skins will look. She looks so friendly now, she's not friendly, she's a cold heartless monster.
 
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