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Anyone ever take a DNA test and be completely surprised?

True. I just figured I would have more than 16% German dna because of how much of my family history is German.
16% Sounds about right to me if your great grandfather was from germany if your not counting the wives of your Ancestors. If I only count my Grandfathers on my fartherside It would go to Wales but after they moved to Pennsylvania colony in the late 17th century they married people orginally from Westphalia region of Modern Germany and the Netherlands not to mention most of their wives were also English descent which could be what happened with your family.
 
I know that my mother's side is mostly Swedish but I don't know my father. I asked my mother one time what my father's heritage was and she answered that his family was also from Sweden, but the way that she answered sounded like she made it up on the spot.

So I've grown up thinking "oh I'm mostly Swedish!" and it's made me interested in Sweden and maybe going for a visit over there someday. But another part of me thinks, "maybe my mom was talking out her ass". I kinda want to do a DNA test just to put that thought to rest.

When I was a kid, whenever I asked my mother a question that she didn't know she would always do some sort of evasive answer rather than just come out and say, "I don't know". It's three simple words. Just say it lol.
 

poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Going to someday. My birth father was was a griffer, conartist, bank robber, rapist and murder.

It'd be interesting to see what percentages I am of him and my English as hell mom.
Don't need a test for that one - 50% of your DNA is from your father.
Excluding mtDNA that is.
 

Saganator

Member
I tried get my DNA analyzed by 23andMe. Apparently I have a low amount of DNA in my saliva and they couldn't run their tests. Sent samples in 3 times and they all failed, eventually they refunded me and told me to stop trying. :(
 

TheZink

Member
I tried get my DNA analyzed by 23andMe. Apparently I have a low amount of DNA in my saliva and they couldn't run their tests. Sent samples in 3 times and they all failed, eventually they refunded me and told me to stop trying. :(
That’s a bummer. Maybe try AncestryDNA?
 
I know that my mother's side is mostly Swedish but I don't know my father. I asked my mother one time what my father's heritage was and she answered that his family was also from Sweden, but the way that she answered sounded like she made it up on the spot.

So I've grown up thinking "oh I'm mostly Swedish!" and it's made me interested in Sweden and maybe going for a visit over there someday. But another part of me thinks, "maybe my mom was talking out her ass". I kinda want to do a DNA test just to put that thought to rest.

When I was a kid, whenever I asked my mother a question that she didn't know she would always do some sort of evasive answer rather than just come out and say, "I don't know". It's three simple words. Just say it lol.

I would always suggest going through archieves first and using DNA to just try to vaguely fill the gaps because you get a better picture of your family history through actual materials even if it's magnitudes harder than spitting in a tube. For example I spent this summer tracing my family history (One of my cousins on my father side already wrote a book about some of it which was helpful) and I learned a lot a DNA chart wouldnt give you.

Even though my Grandmother on my father side and Grandfather(He was Native American so this does make some sense) on my motherside was complete dead ends with also non existent information even through census information I still got a wealth of information. On my father side I have Welsh Quakers who married granddaughters of Catholic English Colonial governors of Maryland colony in mid 1600s. On my Mother's mother side I also have English Quakers who landed in New Jersey as well as Hugenot who fled to Tudor England during religious wars in France and whos eventually moved to Salem Massachusetts alongside the Puritans. Those are cool details which you can't get through graphs.

Just think all that cool information was essentially only accounting for Half of my family.
 

Zeshile

Member
I haven't but my Grandma did. She was actually surprised at how white she was which was according to the test 100%. I think it was like 76% British isles/German or whatever the combo is with rest being various other European ancestries.

Before she took it, she was convinced that we were Black, Native American, and maybe a little Asian. It was almost funny watching her come to terms with her whiteness.
 

weekev

Banned
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This is what I thought the thread was gonna be about. Disappointed in the reality.
 

Futureman

Member
I know my 4 grandparents were from... Germany, Italy, Poland and Lithuania. Beyond that I don't really care. It's not that interesting to me to vaguely know the region of my ancestors beyond that.
 

DOWN

Banned
I wonder why so many people use 23andme instead of Ancestry.com. Ancestry had the market cornered on family records and according to Wirecutter testing Ancestry has the best DNA test compared to 23andme...
 

Borgnine

MBA in pussy licensing and rights management
Pretty much confirmed what my research told me. Incredibly white but also .08 percent West African, which I believe allows me to use the N word.

I had a second cousin once removed or something like that contact me through 23 and me too, which was kind of neat. I think this is the cooler part, not necessarily finding out that you're German but there's a chance you can find people related to you.
 
Not DNA related, but my surname is apparently a really old and unusual English name.

Wouldn't have believed my ancestors ever made it out of Germany/Prussia let alone come from Britain.
 
Not DNA related, but my surname is apparently a really old and unusual English name.

Wouldn't have believed my ancestors ever made it out of Germany/Prussia let alone come from Britain.

I assume you are in Germany right now? If so thats interesting. My ancestor from Westphalia actually had his last name changed throughout the generations until by the American Revolution it had actually became an Old English varient of his families German name.
 

Damaniel

Banned
I'm dropping off my 23andme kit in the mail this morning, so we'll see what it says in a few weeks. 'Western European mutt' is going to be the most likely outcome.

And the amount of health reports was disappointing. I read that 23andMe used to offer hundreds of reports, including cancer reports until the fda neutered them. Now they only offer a few.

You can take your raw data and use a service like Promethease to get far more medical data than 23andme ever offered.
 

DarthWoo

I'm glad Grandpa porked a Chinese Muslim
Is it still the case that there's almost no point doing these as an Asian (Chinese, specifically), as most of these services really have no data from that side of the planet?
 
I’ve always wanted to take a DNA test so for my birthday my in laws bought me one. Come to find out I’m 68% British and about only 16% German DNA. In total I was 100% European.

What’s surprising is you can trace my family back 500 years and more of straight German residents although my great grandfather moved to the US from Germany.

God save the Queen I guess.

Anyone else out there find out any surprising facts?

I don't know the first thing about my DNA and I don't care, and the above sort of highlights why I think a lot of the historical "I'm ______" regarding their background is absurd.

Not picking on you, but you reference your great grandfather as moving to the US from Germany. That's cool, what about your other 3 great grandfathers? Your 4 great grandmothers? Have you tracked their parents, grand parents, etc.? I have this theory that when people say "I'm _____," it's usually a very patriarchal thing and only follows the direct line of men in their family (father, father's father, his father, etc.). That's a very narrow view of a family hierarchy.

With each generation, the number of ancestors doubles, so you only need to go back so far before you realize it's a fool's errand. Where is their blood from? Well, you really have no idea.

But anyway. No, I don't know my national lineage, never have, and have never cared.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Yep. I'm fairly mutty, but the biggest surprise was that I'm 11% Italian.

Caucasian (Armenian, Azerbaijan, Georgia, etc.), Middle Eastern (Israeli, Lebanon, Syria, Iran/Persian), Italian, and Northern European (Polish).
 

J-Rod

Member
Mostly British/Irish which perhaps explains my undying love for potato. I'm surprised they group British/Irish in one category. I suppose they are genetically the same, but I would suspect British and Irish do not see themselves as the same, or at least didn't in the past.
 

Hari Seldon

Member
My mom made my dad get one since all we knew was that he was "eastern european". Got the results back with a big circle over eastern europe. Gee fucking thanks, I thought it would be more specific lol.
 
Is it still the case that there's almost no point doing these as an Asian (Chinese, specifically), as most of these services really have no data from that side of the planet?

Yep. I posted a link about that upthread.

I wonder why so many people use 23andme instead of Ancestry.com. Ancestry had the market cornered on family records and according to Wirecutter testing Ancestry has the best DNA test compared to 23andme...

It's all about that marketing and branding.
 

Lunaray

Member
I wonder why so many people use 23andme instead of Ancestry.com. Ancestry had the market cornered on family records and according to Wirecutter testing Ancestry has the best DNA test compared to 23andme...

23andme has half price sales sometimes.
 
Yep. I'm fairly mutty, but the biggest surprise was that I'm 11% Italian.

Caucasian (Armenian, Azerbaijan, Georgia, etc.), Middle Eastern (Israeli, Lebanon, Syria, Iran/Persian), Italian, and Northern European (Polish).
I wish 23andme would break down their middle eastern category a bit like some of the others do. I'm Armenian and got 90% middle eastern. The other 7% is Italian and the rest is "broadly southern European".
 

borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
hahaha.. so here is one.. my wife has a long long lost older sister (who was put up for adoption), who recently made contact (to great reception!)

anywho, my (new) sister-in-law's father was black, and my wife's mom was native american. So when my sister-in-law was adopted (70s), the agency was under the impression (and stated) that she was latino (specifically cuban). So she spent 45+ years of her life believing she was Cuban and black, and did an ancestry/DNA thing and came back..... first black, then native american, then white mix. zero latino DNA.

so she said (half joking half serious) that she had been repping and celebrating cuba all of these years to find out she was 0% cuban, and what she thought was cuban was american indian.

edit - though the be fair, their mom's tribe is southwestern US... and essentially an extension of mexican/regional heritage.. so there are a ton of similarities with their tribe to mexicans/north american latinos.
 

Media

Member
Don't need a test for that one - 50% of your DNA is from your father.
Excluding mtDNA that is.

Well, we also don't really know what he was for sure. Told us and everyone else Navajo, but again.... Conartist. Would be fucking weird at this point if it turned out I wasn't after 35 years of claiming it.

Even teaching myself the language cause it's dying.
 

erlim

yes, that talented of a member
Yeah I was surprised, I had a full 1% English/Irish, 4% Korean (less of a surprise).
 
Not DNA related, but my surname is apparently a really old and unusual English name.

Wouldn't have believed my ancestors ever made it out of Germany/Prussia let alone come from Britain.

My surname is pretty rare, but first appears in the Domesday Book and is entirely made from Old English words. Mind you it was the north east of England so wouldn't be surprised if there's some Dane in me. I would love to get it checked.
 

Izuna

Banned
hahaha.. so here is one.. my wife has a long long lost older sister (who was put up for adoption), who recently made contact (to great reception!)

anywho, my (new) sister-in-law's father was black, and my wife's mom was native american. So when my sister-in-law was adopted (70s), the agency was under the impression (and stated) that she was latino (specifically cuban). So she spent 45+ years of her life believing she was Cuban and black, and did an ancestry/DNA thing and came back..... first black, then native american, then white mix. zero latino DNA.

so she said (half joking half serious) that she had been repping and celebrating cuba all of these years to find out she was 0% cuban, and what she thought was cuban was american indian.

edit - though the be fair, their mom's tribe is southwestern US... and essentially an extension of mexican/regional heritage.. so there are a ton of similarities with their tribe to mexicans/north american latinos.

Sorry to break it to you but they don't have Caribbean data
 

Keri

Member
I just took a 23 and me test. I'm all European, but I did discover that I'm 12.7% Jewish, which confirms (and partially resolves) a family mystery. Also, I discovered that I do NOT have the gene associated with late term Alzheimers, despite it running in my family, so that's great! But after running my raw data through another service, I did discover I have a gene associated with a slight increased risk of breast cancer. So, I will definitely take mammograms seriously in the future.

Personally, I found the test really interesting and useful and if you can afford the health component, I'd recommend it.
 

Borgnine

MBA in pussy licensing and rights management
These things are also a great way to shut down all those people who claim to be descended from an Indian princess.
 
how much does these tests cost ?
It could be fun but I bet the results would say that I am human and that i descend from an indian princess.
 
We just had a family reunion… The first one in 30 years. It was largely spurred by the fact that we found two long lost cousins through ancestry DNA test ( or better to say they found us). One had been adopted at birth and did not know any of his family. The other had been chasing her father for 40 years but didn't have his right name.

Do you need details aren't as sophisticated as we would like. They need a lot more samples across the board. But I will say that it has helped connect families and that's not bad.
 

Shandy

Member
My mum's been banging on about doing one of these for about a year. She wants to find something "more interesting" than just English/Scottish. I fear she'll find only disappointment.
 

Bluecondor

Member
I teach a course on genetic genealogy. One of the first things that I tell the students is to avoid the trap of viewing the ethnicity percentages as your "results". This is not only inaccurate, but you miss out on the incredible explanatory power of the test.

Just to keep it simple, the ethnicity percentage prediction that you get on the results page is typically relevant within the past 500 to 1,000 years. That is a huge window of time, especially given the fact that there were so many population shifts throughout Europe just within the past few centuries. I have always liked this video as an illustration of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iha3OS8ShYs

The video is just over 3 minutes long and shows all of the political border changes in Europe over the past 1,000 years. We have to remember that each one of these changes was typically accompanied by massive population shifts. If you had European ancestors, they were almost certainly caught up in these.

As such - you really have to watch when trying to interpret the specific percentages and the specific parts of Europe that the test predicts. The test is highly accurate at the continent level (i.e. if you had European ancestors, you will have European percentages) and is fairly accurate at the regional level (i.e. if your ancestors came from the Mediterranean, you will typically get Italy, Greece, perhaps some Northern Africa and Western Asian). The percentages are not reliable though at the country level. There have been too many changes and population shifts over time.

And - the entire point of my course is that if you really want to use the test results to learn something about your family history, you should focus on the past five generations of your family tree - as you have a 99% chance of matching second cousins and still a 90% chance of matching third cousins (shared great-great-grandparents). Think about it - we each have 16 great-great-grandparents, each of whom was probably born 130-150+ years ago.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
I'm from Scotland, with excellent Church records and a pretty good understanding of our lineage. I am so confident of a banal lack of surprise that I don't think it's worth the cost. If it were free I'd do it just to see if there's a viking or a cat in there somewhere.
 
I've done some fairly extensive genealogical research on my family. From what I gather, I'm...

43.75% German
18.75% Norwegian
12.5% Colonial American (British, French, German, Swiss, etc.)
6.25% Belgian
6.25% Danish
6.25% Polish
3.125% British
3.125% Irish
 

Lorcain

Member
My wife's family had a long running oral family history that included native american lineage. There was no proof or actual evidence to back it up, just a passed down family story. The Ancestory DNA test debunked that story completely. 0% Native American. Her family didn't believe her so we paid to have other members tested. 0% all around. Ancestory CS was helpful in explaining to her that the Native American genetic markers are so unique, that they are very easy to recognize.

This oral history in her family had gone on for at least 4 generations from what I could count. It made me really curious to discover the why behind how it started. No one knows in her family.

My DNA results were pretty boring, other than a surprise amount of Scandinavian mixed in. I think my family peeps were raided at one time.
 

Pandy

Member
This at least makes sense.

All this racial self-analysis seems really odd to me. I can't imagine caring enough to pay for this, when I know if it went far back enough they'd find some pondlife microbes.
Actually... Yeah, that I'd pay for. A personal family album that stretched back to the first life on Earth. Would be great for 'entertaining' racists/creationists at parties.

I'm from Scotland, with excellent Church records and a pretty good understanding of our lineage. I am so confident of a banal lack of surprise that I don't think it's worth the cost. If it were free I'd do it just to see if there's a viking or a cat in there somewhere.
In fairness, this applies to me too, so maybe that explains my lack of interest. (Blonde and blue-eyed, I'm fairly sure there's some Viking in me from somewhere, so even that wouldn't be much of a surprise.)
 

Borgnine

MBA in pussy licensing and rights management
My wife's family had a long running oral family history that included native american lineage.

Same in my family, which I always doubted but was finally able to show my mom the recipts so she would shut up about it.

On the PBS show Finding Your Roots they often delve into this because so many families have this myth. It's apparently especially common in African American families as a way to connect themselves with a once proud and free people instead of an historically enslaved people. White people pretty much fell in love with Indians the moment they realized they had destroyed them so they probably just wanted that ancestry because it seemed cool.
 
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