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Does clipping ruin a game for you?
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Benzychenz
Member
Graphics in general barely matter to me. I'm much more interested in interesting gameplay mechanics.
60EffPeeEss
Member
Nah. I'm an insufferable 100% PC nerd but nah, I realise clipping is inevitble, especially when there are a thousand pieces of armour and weapons in a game.
Even when there's not, having properly defined collision on so many things can be a problem.
Even when there's not, having properly defined collision on so many things can be a problem.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
This is a good post. Nah, I'm not bugged by clipping so much that the game is ruined. I laugh for a bit and move on.
Alexander DeLarge
Member
If you're going to have weapons on your character's back, make them float like Nier does it.
NESpowerhouse
Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane.
I'd take a bit of clipping any day over the massive performance requirements to check collisions with every vertex.
Mediking
Member
I honestly don't think with current hardware this is even possible in a 3D game. You simply don't have the power to constantly check that no model will clip through something else, typically the collision mesh will be much lower detailed than the visible model and even then there's an order of priority.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
Nope, not one bit.
With that said, solid collision is such an underrated contributor to immersion. GTA V is still so amazing to me for that reason. Everything is a physical object occupying it's own space. Not a mirage easily broken by a fluttering cloth. It's sometimes profound. Driving a motorcycle in that game and accidentally getting flung off by something insignificant that hit just your head or arm, it's an unmatched organic visual in gaming.
With that said, solid collision is such an underrated contributor to immersion. GTA V is still so amazing to me for that reason. Everything is a physical object occupying it's own space. Not a mirage easily broken by a fluttering cloth. It's sometimes profound. Driving a motorcycle in that game and accidentally getting flung off by something insignificant that hit just your head or arm, it's an unmatched organic visual in gaming.
Twilight Gap
Member
it will never not be a thing unless every single possible movement simulation with every single possible gear combination is hand animated, and lol. creating a simulation alone takes years, so nobody is going to go in and keyframe on top of that for an interactive environment.
one of those 'video game' things you just accept.
one of those 'video game' things you just accept.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
I gotta know how Rockstar managed to do what they did with V, where collision is generally perfect, even with insignificant scenery and physics objects.
Always-honest
Banned
Not really. If it doesn't happen that often. Jaggies are way more distracting to me.
Zomba13
Member
Clipping and water are the worst graphical things for me. They don't ruin games or anything, but when you have a beautiful game like The Witcher 3 or Horizon and then you notice hair or weapons clipping through character models it kind of ruins the beauty. And when you have water that doesn't act like real water, but as a layer (so like, with waves you just see water rise from the bottom of a boat or halfway up a beach) it just looks bad.
The next gen super graphics leap I want isn't more resolution or bigger textures, it's the removal of clipping and good water. Both though are super unlikely to happen though.
The next gen super graphics leap I want isn't more resolution or bigger textures, it's the removal of clipping and good water. Both though are super unlikely to happen though.
J_ToSaveTheDay
Member
It immediately reminds me that it's a constructed world with hard limitations (immersion breaking), but not ruinous. I usually kind of just laugh it off, as I feel it looks comically absurd. EDIT: there are moments littered into games where fashion becomes priority for me and the clipping gets mildly more bothersome as it cramps the style bigtime, but alas, still tolerable
CaviarMeths
Member
Never. Not once. "Immersion" is tied 100% to how much fun I'm having.
Soodanim
Member
That's the thing - this is the alternative. Not worth it for something so minor.
They didn't, is the simple answer. However the RAGE engine uses Euphoria Physics, it's an advanced tool that allows for very accurate character physics interactions that also blends animation into an almost seamless realistic human (or animal). However, even with Euphoria in action, you'll still get minimal amounts of clipping; for instance if you're hit by a car and slowed down the game you'd notice minimal amounts of clipping simply because calculating the accuracy of object interaction is a balancing game (and in normal gameplay, you simply don't notice). You'll also find anything with cloth physics tends to be low down on the priority list and will clip through most things, again, because the majority of the time you won't notice!
NoblesseOblige
Banned
Nah. I imagine I miss it most the time, and sometimes clipping provides humor which is too positive to 'ruin' something. Also it's a video game so I always know there are going to be cases where computer generated graphics make tiny SNAFUs.
I am usually ok with most of the clipping issues, unless it's something big that kinda looks funny hurting the immersion. Like with most of the hair/clothe clipping I just don't care.
Something like this in Monster Hunter World does look a bit funny though.
But even with these it doesn't really ruin the overall game for me.
Something like this in Monster Hunter World does look a bit funny though.
But even with these it doesn't really ruin the overall game for me.
If its constant, unavoidable and obvious it can be pretty annoying but it doesn't usually ruin the game for me.
Edit. Sometimes it can be pretty 4th wallbreaking and hilarious. I can't recall the game specifically but I remember my character holding a knife and drinking from a cup in the same hand. It looked like he was stabbing himself in the face repeatedly.
Edit. Sometimes it can be pretty 4th wallbreaking and hilarious. I can't recall the game specifically but I remember my character holding a knife and drinking from a cup in the same hand. It looked like he was stabbing himself in the face repeatedly.
if the systems at play are physics based and the just couldn't account for such collision, nah, clipping animation is something i can ignore usually since i kinda expect it tbh
That being said, if its just a regular animation and its still clipping, yeah it will bother me. not because it ruins immersion, but b/c it shows incompetence.
That being said, if its just a regular animation and its still clipping, yeah it will bother me. not because it ruins immersion, but b/c it shows incompetence.
Pankratous
Member
Doesn't bother me too much.
Samanosuke Akechi
Member
Nope not at all. Horrible frame rates and poor controls will though.
The_Spaniard
Netmarble
Clipping bugs me when enemies straight up attack you through walls/obstacles. *Glares at Souls/Bloodborne*
texhnolyze
Banned
It's annoying but definitely won't ruin a game for me.
UnnecessaryTodd
Member
I get bugged if it's my characters arms or hair going through their body/head. Especially in created characters it bothers me a lot. *looks at Everybody's Golf*
But if it's going through a weapon or scenery that just reads as a game-y thing and doesn't bother me as much.
But if it's going through a weapon or scenery that just reads as a game-y thing and doesn't bother me as much.
bobawesome
Member
Most games, no. The Xenoverse games? Yes.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
Wow thanks for the explanation. Super interesting!
Notor!ousG
Member
BotW does have clipping
