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I just borrowed $40,000 and want to start a business. Ideas?

Carcetti

Member
Well, I asked some business guys I know and apparently they really believe you could make a killing with MtG futures at least in theory, considering the current pricing.

Let us know how it goes.
 
Wait.

You're a former ballroom dance instructor and social justice warrior with an interest in music theory and access to a bunch of property you own, and can't figure out how to put all those resources together?

Shoot a damn musical, man! You can write it, choreograph it, direct it, you own the sets. Man, this is so easy. It could be about the fight for social justice in the MtG community.

You've already raised the money! All you need to do is find the worst play ever written! Step two, hire the worst director in town! Step three, hire the worst actors in New York! Step four, we open on Broadway and before you can say step five, we close on Broadway, take our two million, and go to Rrrrrio!

We. Can. Do it.
 
I'd return the money.
I really don't think "well, now i got the money, might as well come up with another million dollar idea" is a solid idea.

Also, don't banks usually require you to have a proper business plan when you apply for a loan of that size? I'm sure you had one, but i'm not sure it's a good idea to misappropriate the money you were given for one purpose for an entirely different business idea that the bank didn't sign off on.
I don't think you wanna be on bad terms with the bank you're in debt with.

If the money isn't tightly connected to your original business plan ...
I'd still return it.

Banks will give out large personal loans at interest rates that you shouldn’t take of your credit and income is solid.
 

pigeon

Banned
Might be worth considering in the future not borrowing $40,000 until you have investigated the details of the APIs you want to take advantage of and maybe done a quick mockup to verify that your idea would work. The business term for this is "due diligence."
 

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Where in the world can you own three houses and not be considered rich? In Germany at least, this puts you close to a million euros (not in cash, obviously).
 

Kuro

Member
The meme avatar and the body of the post just makes me think this is a troll. Who the hell calls themselves a liberal social justice warrior? How is he an accountant with 3 houses yet borrows 40k with no actual business idea?
 
I don't understand how you build a futures market based off another company's intellectual property without Hasbro suing you, and without some form of regulation? You're going to need a lot more than 40k for an app if your business revolves around investing.
 
Bubble tea is prob the best low captial business at the moment

teas + coconut milk + canned asian berries + milk

Realistic look at things
Nearly everything would come from Asian distro, made in China berries and coconut milk.. cheap as hell.
Tea's are pretty generic, oolong and such are not sold at most.
Milk is only fresh product you will need.
Low skill, teenage low wage employees.
Premium price on the products that look premium but are really from a bunch of 50cent cans from china/phil/thailand/vietnam
 

Daffy Duck

Member
Buy $40k's woth of SNES mini's.

I'll take a 10% cut of your profits for my suggestion.

Bubble tea is prob the best low captial business at the moment

teas + coconut milk + canned asian berries + milk

No shit! One of these just opened here, I had no idea what the hell it was until I Googled it.
 

Amory

Member
OP u trollin?

Because if not this is the best thread ever. Follow your dreams bud

The meme avatar and the body of the post just makes me think this is a troll. Who the hell calls themselves a liberal social justice warrior? How is he an accountant with 3 houses yet borrows 40k with no actual business idea?
Bank probably figures once he fails theyll get a house out of it.
 

pigeon

Banned
Also there's approximately a 40% chance that this would constitute unlicensed derivatives trading so in some ways you're really better off just not being able to flood their APIs
 
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*Splinter

Member
Unfortunate that your idea didn't work out OP. I'd return the money until you have a new one.

If I owned three properties I'd probably continue investing in more, even if that means a few more years of your 9/5 until you can afford it.

Good luck
 
1. Never borrow without a real plan (any real plan would burn most if not all of it before you could go plan B)
2. Never borrow to fund something you don't already have working on a smaller scale (unless it's a crowd funding thing where you can fuck them)
3. Never quit a job to start, you start as a side hustle then later quit to grow the side into the main income (unless you're a trust fund baby or have insane savings)

Not to be a dick, but as someone who has worked with lots of small new businesses in the last two years you seem like a cliched bad example of what not to do. For your sake I hope I'm wrong.

Edit: Really a mtg stock market? That would have been a bad teenager idea in the 90s. Go back to the 9-5 before you end up starving and homeless with this trash.
 
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Deleted member 13876

Unconfirmed Member
A Magic the Gathering Online Exchange... Interesting, I don't see how that could go wrong.
 

DavidDesu

Member
You're not a rich man yet own and rent out two properties as well as (presumably) wherever you live yourself. Not rich...


I give up. GAF is weird.


You seem very matter of fact you've borrowed a chunk of money with literally no idea of what to do with it. Guess you must be good for it cos I figured banks want to see business plans etc when loaning money for that purpose and you seemingly have none.


You live in a different world to me.
 

pigeon

Banned
You're not a rich man yet own and rent out two properties as well as (presumably) wherever you live yourself. Not rich...


I give up. GAF is weird.


You seem very matter of fact you've borrowed a chunk of money with literally no idea of what to do with it. Guess you must be good for it cos I figured banks want to see business plans etc when loaning money for that purpose and you seemingly have none.


You live in a different world to me.

He's extremely wealthy.
 
I had a business idea and borrowed money to get it started, but right now it looks like my idea might not work.

So now I have $40,000 that I borrowed from banks and, assuming that I'm right and my original idea won't work, I am looking for other ideas.

I like to play board games and puzzles. I've been into Magic the Gathering for 23 years. I follow politics very closely and consider myself a left wing social justice warrior. I am a licensed CPA but I don't have enough experience to open my own firm and I'm starting to think that it was the wrong career for me because accounting is boring. I like musical theory but I'm not very talented at performing. I really enjoy ballroom dancing and spent 9 months as an instructor at Arthur Murray. I am not very charismatic in person usually. I am an okay writer, but not good enough to make a career of it. I currently own three houses, two of which I am renting out at a tiny profit, and I am interested in eventually acquiring more real estate but I don't think I have enough capital to actually do that. I think I would make a great director for either movies or theater but I have no idea how to hone that skill.

I am paying interest on this money so I can't just give it away.

I don't want to invest it in some other business because I can't make a living off of that.

I am not a rich man so $40k is just about all I'll be able to spare.

That's all. I'm just looking for ideas here. Thanks folks

Edit: since many people have asked or have not realized that there was an idea originally, the idea was to start a futures market on Magic the Gathering cards, letting people buy options for them so they can speculate without actually buying the cards.

This may not be viable now, for reasons involving vendors and card pricing APIs.

And the reason I typed that long paragraph talking about myself was to help people come up with ideas related to things I enjoy. It was not intended as a display of relevant skills. But that doesn't seem like it's going to happen, and now it's looking like I will just return the money if my original idea becomes non-viable. So it goes.

Sort your life out.
 

Linkura

Member
You are a fellow CPA and didn't realize this is a terrible idea?

Go to the bank this morning and return the $40,000 ASAP. Return once you have an actual, solid business plan.
 

oxidax

Member
I borrowed money to buy a few different products on Alibaba, rebrand them and sell them. So far I have been able to pay off the money I borrowed, however, the interest seems to have died down on the items so now I have to begin research on something else if I want to keep doing this.
 

Dynamite Shikoku

Congratulations, you really deserve it!
I borrowed money to buy a few different products on Alibaba, rebrand them and sell them. So far I have been able to pay off the money I borrowed, however, the interest seems to have died down on the items so now I have to begin research on something else if I want to keep doing this.

Are you the frank phone guy
 

erpg

GAF parliamentarian
Buy some books on how to actually start a business and return the rest to the banks.

Value Proposition Design, Lean Startup. Those kinds of books.
 
Bubble tea is prob the best low captial business at the moment

teas + coconut milk + canned asian berries + milk

Realistic look at things
Nearly everything would come from Asian distro, made in China berries and coconut milk.. cheap as hell.
Tea's are pretty generic, oolong and such are not sold at most.
Milk is only fresh product you will need.
Low skill, teenage low wage employees.
Premium price on the products that look premium but are really from a bunch of 50cent cans from china/phil/thailand/vietnam

where's he gonna sell it at? a lemonade stand in front of his house?

he needs retail space and a venue that would bring in customers. preferably something shiny and lounge-like to warrant a lot of visitors and regulars etc.
 

Theonik

Member
That sounds like a pretty good business idea OP. I was thinking about something similar but for collectable. Big VC bucks there potentially if you do this right but by the sounds of it you are already hitting snags?
 

OEM

Member
Return the money and borrow it again when you have a business idea.

Isn't it kind a stupid to keep and pay the interest while you figuring out your business idea?
 
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