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Metroid: Samus Returns |OT| What's past is prologue.
- Thread starter TheMoon
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Kenagain240
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Ughhh I hate this. I'm a huge Nintendo fan and ever since fusion I've known metroid is not for me. But I bought this due to the hype and I sold it for half the price already. I feel like a dumbass. I just can't get myself to like these games. But I can for sure see why fans would love it
There is a hard mode that unlocks after beating it on normal. I am not sure if Fusion mode is actually harder than hard mode or if it is unlocked the moment the amiibo is used.
Astral Dog
Member
No, normal mode is plenty difficult for a first timer ;^)
There is a Hard mode included in the game besides the Amiibo but honestly its the same experience so far, you already know how to kill most common enemies and Metroids they just deal a little bit more damge.
Says it right there in the first page, but 5458 blocks.
TheMoon
Member
This is covered in the OP.
Like in all other Metroid games, you cannot play Hard Mode from the start without beating the game.
I love reminding people that the OP exists with basic info like this for you to read and instantly get it answered for you without much hassle.^^
TheSpaceBetween
Member
No use beating yourself up over it, not all games are for everyone. Have you tried the Prime series? They're quire different to their 2D counterparts.
I finished the game last Friday.
16 hours gameplay, 92% of items.
The game was awesome. A real 2D Metroid adapted to the modern times. A great remake of the original.
With Federation Force, I almost thought Nintendo didn't give a fuck about the Metroid franchise. But I was wrong. Metroid is back!!
Now I'm even more hyped for MP4. Nintendo has showed they really know what Metroid is about, and they will give their best to make another great game.
I hope the game sold well worldwide. This game deserves so much love.
16 hours gameplay, 92% of items.
The game was awesome. A real 2D Metroid adapted to the modern times. A great remake of the original.
With Federation Force, I almost thought Nintendo didn't give a fuck about the Metroid franchise. But I was wrong. Metroid is back!!
Now I'm even more hyped for MP4. Nintendo has showed they really know what Metroid is about, and they will give their best to make another great game.
I hope the game sold well worldwide. This game deserves so much love.
TheMoon
Member
if they "didn't give a fuck," they wouldn't have spent years making a unique game to broaden the scope of the series...
I really don't get this line of thinking.
That game wasn't the game people wanted after so many years of no Metroid games. People didn't want that game, the criticism was notable from the very beginning since they announced it. After so many years, people wanted a real Metroid game, like Samus Returns, or Metroid Prime 4, not such spin-off.
I'm glad if you liked it. I cannot discuss if the game is good of bad because I haven't played it. But let's be honest, Nintendo made a huge mistake announcing the game in the conditions Metroid was those days. It felt like a joke in general, a very bad joke.
If they announced this E3 together with M:SR and MP4, I don't know what would have happened, but I'm really sure it would have been better received. It wouldn't have got all that bad criticism, bad reviews, and wouldn't have bombed the way it did either.
TheMoon
Member
But all of this has nothing to do with them having seemingly not cared.
And as I said in my first post, Nintendo has shown they cared about Metroid with Samus Returns. Meanwhile Federation Force looked like a mediocre cooperative FPS game with the name "Metroid Prime" stuck on it when it didn't look like a Metroid game at all. How the game was announced, and the presentation, was done in a horrible way, like they didn't care about Metroid at all. No matter if they were developing another Metroid game at the same time, or how unique FF is.
To talk briefly, did Nintendo show they about Metroid cared when they announced Federation Force? No. Did they show they cared when they announced Samus Returns and MP4? Yes.
TheMoon
Member
What is your criteria for "caring about Metroid"? Seems incredibly arbitrary to me. Pretty much since Nintendo did the exact same kind of rollout for MPFF as for MSR with several Treehouse Live sessions during its E3 reveal. Grander even, they debuted one of its modes during the return of the NWC beforehand, showing off the competitive side. But because you didn't care for the style of game, they didn't show they cared?
joshbob1985
Member
What was the business at the end
?
with the critter turning purple all about
TheMoon
Member
https://youtu.be/qP_TqK8YhWo
However, after this metroid 2 remake, the metroid fusion intro has been recotned, the
metroid larva saves samus 3 times instead of 2.
edit: my bad
TheMoon
Member
use spoiler tags pls
TheMoon
Member
I should know better but sometimes I just read a thing and... here we are.
Do you have experience with Metroid games? I took my time exploring and finished the game with 85% completion in 13 hours.
Yes, I have beat all of the 2d Metroid games. Admittedly, each was completed when they were first released, so it I haven't played a 2d Metroid since 2002. I haven't been struggling with Samus Returns though.
Any tips for moving through the game faster? Are you killing every enemy as you move through an area? Do you get every item?
I beat the game 100% in ~12 hours and I thought I was moving fairly casually...
Are you backtracking to the seal after killing every Metroid? Doing so will give you a better idea of where the next metroid is, but it might add to your time.
Are you backtracking after every upgrade? It's probably best to backtrack to earlier areas once you get a couple of upgrades, if at all before the end of the game.
Although, honestly, you don't really need to go fast. Unless you're actively speedrunning or aiming for the low time endings, there's no real need for haste. Just enjoy the game as you want.
Astral Dog
Member
Federation Force isnt what most of the fanbase (or anyone , honestly) wanted.
Anyways, Samus Returns is Metroid but without all the bullshit!
Federation Force isnt what most of the fanbase (or anyone , honestly) wanted.
Anyways, Samus Returns is Metroid but without all the bullshit!
But, again, how does that preclude Nintendo from caring for the franchise?
Astral Dog
Member
oh, i suspected they had much more in the works when they announced Federation Force,but that doesnt mean the fans have to care or buy a game they dont want at the time or even cant critizise it for not being in line with most Metroid games after many years.
honestly i believe Federation Force would have been better announced with Prime 4 and SM Iif its going to be an spin off, but that was Nintendo
I'm not sure how much you are using the scanning tool, but it saves so much time as opposed to having to bomb or missile walls to find secrets like in the other 2D Metroids.
Hey now. People moaning about metroid were nonsensical. My irrational hatred of Nintendo for the handling of Paper Mario is 100% justified.
Color Splash is a fantastic game.
I can't hear you over the sound of my entirely rational emotional attachment to Paper Mario:TTYD.
The sad thing is that i'm only 50% sarcastic here.
TheMoon
Member
This is widely understood and obvious, though. Has nothing to do with the caring bit.
Indeed!
Nintendo cares about Metroid, they are just absolutely clueless of what makes the games and Samus so loved by the press and fans alike. On one hand this means the will stick with the tried and true formula, on the other it limits innovation, I really hope we can get more than just clones of Super Metroid and Metroid prime ad nauseum, but if the alternative is games like Other M/Federation Force then I'll take the former.
Well my question was more about whether to get it digital or physical but thanks anyway.
Well my question was more about whether to get it digital or physical but thanks anyway.
TheMoon
Member
Your question was literally how many blocks it uses.
TheMoon
Member
The actual best time to go back is after you beat the (obvious) final Metroid evolution. As you will have to go back after that again since certain areas will only be accessible after.
Beat it, 12:49 and no idea what my clear percentage was.
The boss encounters felt better polished than many Metroid games, but also felt too mechanical. Gone are the days when you could tackle Queen Metroid or
with multiple strategies, here it's much more "dodge this attack, this attack leaves them open to counterattack."
much less like the knife-fight it was in other 2D Metroid games.
I didn't really feel the zest for this game, but in terms of mechanics its a real refinement of 2D Metroid and creates a strong basis for making more of them. Great difficulty balancing, well-placed upgrades, generally good pacing (though sometimes getting new weapons felt like feast or famine).
Edit: I don't know what they were thinking putting the
crystals all over the map like that. I guess you get the upgrades to help against
but it doesn't really need a lot of upgrades the way the missile-hungry Queen does.
The boss encounters felt better polished than many Metroid games, but also felt too mechanical. Gone are the days when you could tackle Queen Metroid or
Ridley
Ridley's
I didn't really feel the zest for this game, but in terms of mechanics its a real refinement of 2D Metroid and creates a strong basis for making more of them. Great difficulty balancing, well-placed upgrades, generally good pacing (though sometimes getting new weapons felt like feast or famine).
Edit: I don't know what they were thinking putting the
Baby Metroid
Ridley
TheMoon
Member
it doesn't say at the end screen, you'll see it on the save select in the title menu.
I had to check this after beating it but those were in the original (probably not in back-track areas, though?).
Astral Dog
Member
you can also see it on the map screen. and when teleporting it gives you a percentage of each area
Green Mamba
Member
What kinds are you talking about?
Ice Beam and missles