It's an idiotic analogy and idiotic.It is an extreme analogy and TRUE.
It's an idiotic analogy and idiotic.It is an extreme analogy and TRUE.
It's an idiotic analogy and idiotic.
Ohhhh God.False equivalency. Mario franchise is known for being whored out to all sorts of game types.
And perfectly true putting a shut up in salty posters.It's an idiotic analogy and idiotic.
They should have made Gran Turismo Kart.
Disappoinment in what? that you get to play a very good polished game? You can't use the single player argument about this game, because we knew the direction of the game damn near 2 years ago.
The game is called Gran Turismo Sport for a reason... it is pretty dumb to thing otherwise.
You are desperate and salty when you thing the name didnt changed.You know you're desperate when you start acting like GT Sport is a departure from GT like Mario kart is a departure from Mario platformers. So sad.
If I knew Trump was going to be elected two years ago, I would still be disappointed on inauguration day. Just because you know something is coming, doesn't mean that there's reason not to be disappointed about it when it finally comes to fruition.
who said it's name hasn't changed? Nobody. A name change is not enough to get rid of expectations when the basic gameplay systems and genre have not changed. And definitely not enough to magically consider the game exempt from comparisons to other games the genre, which include its predecessors.You are desperate and salty when you thing the name didn't changed.
who said it's name hasn't changed? Nobody. A name change is not enough to get rid of expectations. And definitely not enough to magically consider the game exempt from comparisons to other games tne genre.
You know you're desperate when you start acting like GT Sport is a departure from GT like Mario kart is a departure from Mario platformers. So sad.
They named it sport in an attempt to deflect expectations but also have a fallback plan. Kaz himself has said this is GT7 in all but name.
It is absolutely not a forza horizon esque departure. The gameplay is the same, the tracks and style of the tracks is the same. Forza was more arcadey and shifted to open world. A big difference from Forza Motorsport.It's more of a Forza Horizon esque departure.
PD changed the name of a franchise because they wanted to change the focus and create a new game from the ground not tied with previous games.
They pretty much perfect accomplish that making a good game.
Salty posters says they hate it because they didnt expect a change in focus.
And my analogies are idiotic lol
The message was clear lolYes, we all know what they tried to do. Unfortunately they messed up the messaging and were unable to pull away from the baggage of previous games.
And yes, your analogies were idiotic.
The franchise name is Gran Turismo, they didn't change that. Not tied with previous games but sure as heck are marketing the hell out of the legacy of gran turismo in promoting this game? How does that work again?PD changed the name of a franchise because they wanted to change the focus and create a new game from the ground not tied with previous games.
They pretty much perfect accomplish that making a good game.
Salty posters says they hate it because they didn't expect a change in focus.
That exactly why the game started a new name... Gran Turismo Sport.
It is like people expecting a platform game from Mario Kart lol
FIrstly, Kaz has stated this is the equivalent of GT7.
Second, that's a stupid and troll analogy. Not even remotely the same thing. One's a platformer, once a kart racer. Two different genre.
This game is in the sim-racer genre. It's going to get compared to other games that belonged to the same genre, which all previous GT games do fall into.
It is absolutely not a forza horizon esque departure. The gameplay is the same, the tracks and style of the tracks is the same. Forza was more arcadey and shifted to open world. A big difference from Forza Motorsport.
The only change here is instead of focusing on single player, they're focusing on online. That is not a departure in genre, or even worthy of calling a spinoff.
Nah there is no reason for the change of the name /sI think the shift in design and structure is just as big as a shift in fundamental gameplay as Horizon was to Motorsport for the Forza series. I mean, you can choose to perceive that differently if you wish, but I think that's the entire grounds for the debates going on right now -- the very design and structure of GT has been revamped in Sport, regardless of the similarities to the core gameplay, and it results in a radically different experience that some people like and some people don't want.
Already answered why Forza Horizon is not the same situation at this. Read above. Or tldr, it is not in the same genre, and does not have the same gameplay, nor style of environments. GT sport is in the same genre, with the same gameplay, and style of environments.Do people complain that Forza horizon is not Simulation racer Forza!?
Do people complain that Forza horizon is not Simulation racer Forza!?
PD changed the name of a franchise because they wanted to change the focus and create a new game from the ground not tied with previous games... they are even open with that saying they wants to focus in others things with Sport.
They pretty much perfect accomplish that making a good game.
Salty posters says they hate it because they didnt expect a change in focus.
And my analogies are idiotic lol
It is exactly the same situation... different focus.Already answered why Forza Horizon is not the same situation at this. Read above.
Already answered why Forza Horizon is not the same situation at this. Read above.
A different style of gameplay + different style of environemtns is not even close to the equivalent of "the game is now online focused"It is exactly the same situation... different focus.
The message was clear lol
It is like you want Mario Kart to be Mario Tennis.
Now I understood... you have no ideia what (and maybe never played) GTS is.A different style of gameplay + different style of environemtns is not even close to the equivalent of "the game is now online focused"
Uh yes. It was a very very very common complaint. There's lots of people that don't consider FF11 and FF14 real Final Fantasy.Let me get another example then, do people complain that FF14 is an mmo, and yes it's similar situation a developer doesn't have to change the whole game name and throw out the brand name they built all those years just because the any to try a different approach, they changed the secondary name to Sport and that's more than enough to differentiate between it and the main numbered series.
What I understand is you have no idea what Forza Horizon is. I played the beta last week extensively. And played the beta in the summer before that. I know exactly what GT Sport is.Now I understood... you have no ideia (and maybe never played) what GTS is.
Different focus by a completely different team. This is the next GT game created by the same team.It is exactly the same situation... different focus.
Let me get another example then, do people complain that FF14 is an mmo, and yes it's similar situation a developer doesn't have to change the whole game name and throw out the brand name they built all those years just because the any to try a different approach, they changed the secondary name to Sport and that's more than enough to differentiate between it and the main numbered series.
Uh yes. It was a very very very common complaint. There's lots of people that don't consider FF11 and FF14 real Final Fantasy.
And even then, the mmo aspects do change up overall gameplay and the world size and what you can do in that world. GT Sport however, does not. The gameplay and environments are the same style.What I understand is you have no idea what Forza Horizon is.
At least I know more about Forza Horizon than somebody that things that changes only exists if gameplay and environment are differents lolWhat I understand is you have no idea what Forza Horizon is. I played the beta last week extensively. And played the beta in the summer before that. I know exactly what GT Sport is.
Don't consider GT sport a main GT game and look at it as different game, you answered that yourself an online focused game is totally different from the single player one.
It is exactly the same situation... different focus.
At least I know more about Forza Horizon than somebody that things that changes only exists if gameplay and environment are differents lol
I'm looking at it as its own game, the online doesn't hook me and the SP is not satisfying with what they've put in the game (from what I played in the beta, all of which I got gold in except for the rally events). I can also choose to compare it to other games in the same genre.Don't consider GT sport a main GT game and look at it as different game, you answered that yourself an online focused game is totally different from the single player one.
Nah, every franchise has bad spin-offs, GT7 will define the future of the franchise as we know it.
Feels weird to not want a new GT game. I bought all of the mainline games except for 6 (terrible timing). GT3 is still my second most played game of all time. But GT:S has completely put me off. It's just not what I want in a GT game. I've never cared about racing against other people.
Beyond usual Giantbomb apathy towards things they don't like, I think the identity crisis point is a real big one.
The Encarta facts contrast pretty heavily with the THIS IS A SERIOUS RACING GAME ABOUT SERIOUS ONLINE COMPETITION stuff, which feels like it's compensating for not having anything for casual/traditional fans, but where it matters, in the car list and campaign stuff, there's nothing compensatory to be seen.
That exactly why the game started a new name... Gran Turismo Sport.
It is like people expecting a platform game from Mario Kart lol
Kaz considers it "7"