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[Floody]

Not combined no, but the post wasn't talking about them combined?

I'm talking combined (though just for the year, not lifetime, cheating I know).
I did forget about Mario Kart though, which I'm much less confident of when included, but I think Pokemon, give Mario Odyssey, BOTW and Splatoon's 2017 sales combined a good run for their money.

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

I fully expect a Smash Bros. Deluxe to come out next year and keep up the flow of games.

Also, Nintendo has been randomly teasing a new Animal Crossing on its Twitter account for a while now. It has to be coming next year. That's a system-seller by itself.

Do keep in mind that we have an Animal Crossing mobile game that's (supposedly) coming before year's end.

 

[Instro]

Like hell it was. It was hasty hot takes on the Wii U situation and not looking at what actually happen. Then, people handwave the success of the 3DS. Yes, its sales may have had been down compared to the DS but isn't that the case for the PS2 to PS3, Xbox 360 to Xbox One, PSP to Vita sales, right? Arguing against those takes were headache inducing. However, so many people are right now eating crow....

The 3DS is going to end up selling half of what it's predecessor sold, while being a system that had a severe price cut to save it from complete disaster, which hurt Nintendo's financials badly for quite some time. They also had to divert software resources to buoy the 3DS which inevitably hurt the WiiU. Does it really strike you as a success?

 

[Plinko]

They have?

Yes--they have randomly been featuring different characters from Animal Crossing and putting up information about them. Completely out of nowhere.

Do keep in mind that we have an Animal Crossing mobile game that's (supposedly) coming before year's end.

And that game will assuredly connect to the Switch version, which most assume will come out soon after. I say summer 2018.

 

[silva1991]

Sun and Moon did 14.69 million in a month and a half.


Are you sure about that?

I know Pokemon is huge, but this is ridiculous. How much did it sell by now?

 

[cw_sasuke]

The 3DS is going to end up selling half of what it's predecessor sold, while being a system that had a severe price cut to save it from complete disaster, which hurt Nintendo's financials badly for quite some time. They also had to divert software resources to buoy the 3DS which inevitably hurt the WiiU. Does it really strike you as a success?

Of course the 3DS is a success - the DS was cheaper than the 3DS and didnt have to compete with smartphone gaming. Nothing would ever be a success if DS sales were expected as the norm.

The market has changed a lot - Switch actually is the first Nintendo system designed for a post-mobile dominated era. WiiU was the mayor flop that hurt Nintendo but even so the WiiU was necessary for them to get into HD development and figure out what works and doesnt work for the Switch.

 

[dreamlongdead]

Really impressed to see a 3DS game in the overall top ten. I can't remember if Fire Emblem Echoes even did that for May.

I'm amazed by the Switch. Outselling PS4 is no easy feat, and the software's doing fairly well. Mario Odyssey will be huge.

 

[Dark Cloud]

I'm expecting an Animal Crossing Direct.

 

[Gradivus]

Really impressed to see a 3DS game in the overall top ten. I can't remember if Fire Emblem Echoes even did that for May.

I'm amazed by the Switch. Outselling PS4 is no easy feat, and the software's doing fairly well. Mario Odyssey will be huge.

Fire Emblem Echoes came 7th or 8th in May I think.

 

[Zedark]

Fire Emblem Echoes came 7th or 8th in May I think.

Do keep in mind that that was revenue of combined SKUs, while this is individual SKUs on units basis. Metroid could be 8th, higher or lower on thr list depending on several factors.

 

[theprodigy]

Really impressed to see a 3DS game in the overall top ten. I can't remember if Fire Emblem Echoes even did that for May.

I'm amazed by the Switch. Outselling PS4 is no easy feat, and the software's doing fairly well. Mario Odyssey will be huge.

7th, in the official NPD chart (with revenue+digital) too, though obviously a softer month

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I'm expecting an Animal Crossing Direct.

that would be nice, but a game like that would end my life

 

[Instro]

Of course the 3DS is a success - the DS was cheaper than the 3DS and didnt have to compete with smartphone gaming. Nothing would ever be a success if DS sales were expected as the norm.

The market has changed a lot - Switch actually is the first Nintendo system designed for a post-mobile dominated era. WiiU was the mayor flop that hurt Nintendo but even so the WiiU was necessary for them to get into HD development and figure out what works and doesnt work for the Switch.

Define success then I guess? It's going to be their worst selling handheld, consistently missed Nintendo's forecasts during it's life, they lost a lot money on it for a while, the gimmick didn't catch on, and they've completely done away with the DS brand and feature set when they moved on to the Switch. I just don't see it, other than saying that it didn't completely bomb out like the WiiU, Gamecube, or Virtual Boy.

 

[titiklabingapat]

Expect October to continue that trend. Switches are being restocked every other day now. Nintendo is finally able to deliver the units. This holiday is going to be massive. 16M for the FY doesn't seem that farfetched anymore.

 

[Mory Dunz]

7th, in the official NPD chart (with revenue+digital) too, though obviously a softer month

Destiny, FIFA, NBA, along with the usual suspects is a soft month?

 

[theprodigy]

Destiny, FIFA, NBA, and along with the usual suspects is a soft month?

I mean May is weaker than September, pls

 

[ArchedThunder]

I know Pokemon is huge, but this is ridiculous. How much did it sell by now?

15.67 million as of June 30th, it was pretty front loaded.

 

[Mory Dunz]

I mean May is weaker than September, pls

sorry, misread.

 

[Dremorak]

Switch doesn’t have much for the next year tho, so I doubt this will last

First time following Nintendo I see? Nintendo announces games as the year goes on. They normally have one big presentation every quarter. And normally theres one in January

 

[Astral Dog]

The 3DS is going to end up selling half of what it's predecessor sold, while being a system that had a severe price cut to save it from complete disaster, which hurt Nintendo's financials badly for quite some time. They also had to divert software resources to buoy the 3DS which inevitably hurt the WiiU. Does it really strike you as a success?

I dont think it was a success but not quite a failure either, you can't call a system still selling 6-7 years on the market a failure. And Nintendo had lots of success, first party wise on there.

 

[cw_sasuke]

Define success then I guess? It's going to be their worst selling handheld, consistently missed Nintendo's forecasts during it's life, they lost a lot money on it for a while, the gimmick didn't catch on, and they've completely done away with the DS brand and feature set when they moved on to the Switch. I just don't see it, other than saying that it didn't completely bomb out like the WiiU, Gamecube, or Virtual Boy.

System was their only money maker and kept them afloat until they could launch Switch and introduce their mobile plans. Its still selling +6 years in.

Worst selling handheld doesnt mean much when the market has changed considerable in the last two decades. GB and GBA had no competition, the DS was a once in a lifetime situation because smartphones werent a thing.....so yeah if you are saying the second best selling console of this gen when its all said and done isnt a success - thats your call, but Nintendo made money on the system and is still making money.

The PS4 has had record sales and complete industry support from day 1 and only now after 4 years is outselling the 3DS.

Overall it was a success even if it failed in many areas.....the launch was bad, western support and hardware was lackluster etc. but at the end of the day selling 70m isnt something you do if your plattform isnt successful.

 

[Renna Hazel]

Sun and Moon did 14.69 million in a month and a half.


Are you sure about that?

And how much bigger was sun and moon compared to Mario Kart 7? Pokemon is big but this is an exaggeration for sure.

I'd bet anything that Pokemon Switch doesn't outsell every first party game this year combined. It wont even be close.

 

[Master Yoshi]

I want one so badly.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Mario preorders are sold out at target apparently...
https://www.target.com/p/super-mario-odyssey-nintendo-switch/-/A-52161284?lnk=SuperMarioOdyss

 

[Mory Dunz]

What's with all these posts about Switch 2018 lineup being bare?

Should they announce every 2018 game right now? And then cue E3 2018, "Nintendo has no games to announce!!"

I personally could see Q1 being relatively light. Carried by Kirby, Yoshi (maybe octopath but that's likely later), and then Q2 with a couple of surprise games, like maybe LM3 or a platinum game/port. And I could also see AC being around June or Fire Emblem

Then Q3 and Q4 I think will be crazy. Maybe 2D Mario/Maker, Metroid, Retro's game, 3rd party games, etc

 

[ksamedi]

Next year is going to start strong with octopath traveler, Wolfenstein 2, Kirby and Yoshi set for early 2018. I hope FE makes it too but they will spread things out. We really dont know anything about the lineup other then Metroid and Pokemon being mentioned as 2018 but could also be pushed into 2019. A January direct is pretty much certain to outline 2018.

 

[cw_sasuke]

What's with all these posts about Switch 2018 lineup being bare?

Should they announce every 2018 game right now? And then cue E3 2018, "Nintendo has no games to announce!!"

I personally could see Q1 and Q2 being relatively light. Carried by Kirby, Yoshi (maybe octopath), and a couple of surprise games, like maybe LM3 or a platinum game/port. And I could also see AC being around June or Fire Emblem

Then Q3 and Q4 I think will be crazy. Maybe 2D Mario/Maker, Metroid, Retro's game, 3rd party games, etc

Thess will likely be the new "where are the 3DS games" threads we get every year 2 weeks before e3...lol.

 

[AdventureRacing]

Pretty impressive considering it's destiny 2 month. Also if Japan is anything to go by I think Nintendo is building a lot of stock fornmario odyssey. Expecting Nintendo to easily take October and sell big numbers this holiday.

In terms of Pokemon I think the first release on switch has the potential to be the 2nd best selling version of Pokemon ever. I'm expecting big things.

When are we likely to find some more about next years releases? I think Nintendo has enough to finish the year strong but next year is a barren wasteland. Are we likely to get a direct late this year or early next year to give us an idea of what to expect?

 

[Zedark]

Mario preorders are sold out at target apparently...
https://www.target.com/p/super-mario-odyssey-nintendo-switch/-/A-52161284?lnk=SuperMarioOdyss

It begins!

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Pretty impressive considering it's destiny 2 month. Also if Japan is anything to go by I think Nintendo is building a lot of stock fornmario odyssey. Expecting Nintendo to easily take October and sell big numbers this holiday.

In terms of Pokemon I think the first release on switch has the potential to be the 2nd best selling version of Pokemon ever. I'm expecting big things.

When are we likely to find some more about next years releases? I think Nintendo has enough to finish the year strong but next year is a barren wasteland. Are we likely to get a direct late this year or early next year to give us an idea of what to expect?

A general Ninendo Direct in November, December, or January.

 

[Defect]

Metroid: Samus Survives

 

[Mory Dunz]

Next year is going to start strong with octopath traveler, Wolfenstein 2, Kirby and Yoshi set for early 2018. I hope FE makes it too but they will spread things out. We really dont know anything about the lineup other then Metroid and Pokemon being mentioned as 2018 but could also be pushed into 2019. A January direct is pretty much certain to outline 2018.

forgot about wolfenstein. I was kinda focusing on 1st party. Since 3rd party games can seemingly be announced and released in no time.

Add SMT to that Q2 Q3 range

 

[AdventureRacing]

What's with all these posts about Switch 2018 lineup being bare?

Should they announce every 2018 game right now? And then cue E3 2018, "Nintendo has no games to announce!!"

I personally could see Q1 being relatively light. Carried by Kirby, Yoshi (maybe octopath but that's likely later), and then Q2 with a couple of surprise games, like maybe LM3 or a platinum game/port. And I could also see AC being around June or Fire Emblem

Then Q3 and Q4 I think will be crazy. Maybe 2D Mario/Maker, Metroid, Retro's game, 3rd party games, etc

Right now almost none of those games have release dates or are guaranteed to be 2018 releases. Some might not even exist.

I agree Nintendo has a lot of games up its sleeve and 2018 has the potential to blow this year away in terms of releases. As of right now though we know essentially none of that. I just want to see some confirmations.

 

[BanjoLayleeYookaKazooie]

Define success then I guess? It's going to be their worst selling handheld, consistently missed Nintendo's forecasts during it's life, they lost a lot money on it for a while, the gimmick didn't catch on, and they've completely done away with the DS brand and feature set when they moved on to the Switch. I just don't see it, other than saying that it didn't completely bomb out like the WiiU, Gamecube, or Virtual Boy.

Wow @ this post. Maybe there were some things that the 3DS did that were good? I dunno maybe instead of this absolute failure picture you're painting, you could also consider the successes and by looking at both the successes and the shortcomings of the argument you will probably arrive at a better and more rounded conclusion?

I mean that other user is saying lots of good stuff there that you're just flat out ignoring, which is poor form really, and I could add a lot more to that if I didn't think you were just going to ignore that too.

 

[Mory Dunz]

When are we likely to find some more about next years releases? I think Nintendo has enough to finish the year strong but next year is a barren wasteland. Are we likely to get a direct late this year or early next year to give us an idea of what to expect?

....really?

Right now almost none of those games have release dates or are guaranteed to be 2018 releases. Some might not even exist.

I agree Nintendo has a lot of games up its sleeve and 2018 has the potential to blow this year away in terms of releases. As of right now though we know essentially none of that. I just want to see some confirmations.

oh, okay. you are trolling.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Mario preorders are sold out at target apparently...
https://www.target.com/p/super-mario-odyssey-nintendo-switch/-/A-52161284?lnk=SuperMarioOdyss

too early for that type of thing sheesh

I would expect this for Black Friday rush week

 

[AdventureRacing]

....really?

oh, okay. you are trolling.

Yes I'm trolling, why even reply if that's all the thought you will put into your post.

What exactly did I say that was so wrong or would imply that I'm trolling? Try and tone down the fanboy nonsense for just a second.

 

[BanjoLayleeYookaKazooie]

Yes I'm trolling, why even reply if that's all the thought you will put into your post.

What exactly did I say that was so wrong or would imply that I'm trolling? Try and one down the fanboy nonsensefor just a second.

Why don't we all calm down before we say things that aren't too smart?

Your "barren wasteland" post was really not arguing in good faith IMO. Deliberately hyperbolic and ignoring what they were saying.

 

[Mory Dunz]

Yes I'm trolling, why even reply if that's all the thought you will put into your post.

What exactly did I say that was so wrong or would imply that I'm trolling? Try and tone down the fanboy nonsense for just a second.

I don't even know what you were trying to say...

"games that don't exist"?
uh yeah, the 2018 lineup hasn't been announced. Hence I said "I could see..." in my post. It's speculation because we don't know. Not sure how that was unclear at all.

And I had literally made a post about waiting for the lineup, and then you had the "barren wasteland" thing, so I assumed you were trolling. Unless Nintendo really is releasing 3 games in all of 2018.

 

[Renna Hazel]

Yes I'm trolling, why even reply if that's all the thought you will put into your post.

What exactly did I say that was so wrong or would imply that I'm trolling? Try and tone down the fanboy nonsense for just a second.

We don't know when Nintendo will announce release dates or games. They've had Directs in November and December before but nothing is promised. We'll have to wait and see.

 

[dreamlongdead]

Nintendo has a steady first-party slate for 2018. They've already revealed some 2018 games, and they will certainly announce brand new ones and ports to fill in the gaps.

2018 will be the year where we start seeing more third-party devs step up. With the Switch's consistently high sales performance, there is no way a reasonable person can expect even fewer games.

The western AAA and indie support has only picked up since launch. This is no Wii U.

 

[jdstorm]

Pretty impressive considering it's destiny 2 month. Also if Japan is anything to go by I think Nintendo is building a lot of stock fornmario odyssey. Expecting Nintendo to easily take October and sell big numbers this holiday.

In terms of Pokemon I think the first release on switch has the potential to be the 2nd best selling version of Pokemon ever. I'm expecting big things.

When are we likely to find some more about next years releases? I think Nintendo has enough to finish the year strong but next year is a barren wasteland. Are we likely to get a direct late this year or early next year to give us an idea of what to expect?

I'd expect a Nintendo Direct in January. We already know Kirby, Yoshi and Octopath Traveller are coming early next year as exclusives. Seems like they will ride out these holidays with what they currently have announced.

Edit: could also do one in November to highlight all the holiday titles and then tease 1st half 2018 titles with a focus on 3rd parties.

 

[ZOONAMI]

It’s like Nintendo turned the US into Japan, only with much larger volume.

 

[BanjoLayleeYookaKazooie]

Nintendo has a steady first-party slate for 2018. They've already revealed some 2018 games, and they will certainly announce brand new ones and ports to fill in the gaps.

2018 will be the year where we start seeing more third-party devs step up. With the Switch's consistently high sales performance, there is no way a reasonable person can expect even fewer games.

The western AAA and indie support has only picked up since launch. This is no Wii U.

Yeah I think all this should be obvious. Like really, really obvious. Do people genuinely think Nintendo have shown their hand already and are only releasing 3/4 games all next year? And that all 3rd parties have already made their moves?

Because if so I have to agree that you must be trolling. It is just incomprehensible to me that you genuinely believe that will happen.

 

[CGiRanger]

A general Ninendo Direct in November, December, or January.

I'd have to guess January, since last years January direct pretty much laid out the full 2017 release schedule of the Switch:

For your recollection (reaction vid): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H7A4xtDKmM

The video showed (in the below order)

1/2 Switch
ARMS
Splatoon 2
Super Mario Odyssey
Xenoblade 2
Fire Emblem Warriors
Zelda

and a bunch of minor 2018 or TBA teasers (Octopath, Trevor Strikes Again, Shin Megami). Only 2017 games that were not on here were Pokken and Mario Kart 8 Deluxes (maybe because they were ports?)

So yeah, January direct for sure.

 

[sinonobu]

Pretty impressive considering it's destiny 2 month. Also if Japan is anything to go by I think Nintendo is building a lot of stock fornmario odyssey. Expecting Nintendo to easily take October and sell big numbers this holiday.

In terms of Pokemon I think the first release on switch has the potential to be the 2nd best selling version of Pokemon ever. I'm expecting big things.

When are we likely to find some more about next years releases? I think Nintendo has enough to finish the year strong but next year is a barren wasteland. Are we likely to get a direct late this year or early next year to give us an idea of what to expect?

I'm expecting Direct (or even presentation who knows) on December or January when all of their major titles come out.

We still don't have dates for Octopath, Kirby and Yoshi which all seems like an early 2018 titles, and we need updates on stuff like Fire Emblem Switch, which is slated for 2018.

 

[badboy78660]

Mario preorders are sold out at target apparently...
https://www.target.com/p/super-mario-odyssey-nintendo-switch/-/A-52161284?lnk=SuperMarioOdyss

Same goes for the Odyssey bundle and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 pre-orders

Nintendo Switch Super Mario Odyssey Edition

Xenoblade Chronicles 2

 

[Chezzymann]

When can we expect actual numbers?

 

[phantasmic_glaive]

Define success then I guess? It's going to be their worst selling handheld, consistently missed Nintendo's forecasts during it's life, they lost a lot money on it for a while, the gimmick didn't catch on, and they've completely done away with the DS brand and feature set when they moved on to the Switch. I just don't see it, other than saying that it didn't completely bomb out like the WiiU, Gamecube, or Virtual Boy.

Woah... are you suggesting the 3ds was a failure of some sort? And better yet, are you suggesting the Switch will do better than the 3ds? Cuz if you are, no fkn way..

The Switch is riding high on positivity right now, I get that, but this is ridiculous. You couldn't have asked for better first party and third party support for a handheld and it still sold like 60+ million, right? What is it that makes you think differently about the Switch?

Yes Pokémon will be a blockbuster, yes people will be there for prime 4 and smash. But they have a loooong way to go before we start talking about winning generations n shit, and declaring winners and losers.

Don't let the hype get to you. The thing about crow is, it's never done being served.. ever.

Crow was served across the board this whole gen, people thought Sony were done, people thought Xbox were gonna rule! It's gonna be a long ride to whatever number the Switch settles on, so humble your expectations cause anything can happen, especially in this industry.

That being said, I do expect it to sell well for the rest of the year. Why anyone would doubt the power of Pokémon (especially after the last craze) is beyond me, they will own when those Switch versions Out!

We'll have to wait and see what happens.

Edit: sorry for the wall..

 

[Mory Dunz]

I'd expect a Nintendo Direct in January. We already know Kirby, Yoshi and Octopath Traveller are coming early next year as exclusives. Seems like they will ride out these holidays with what they currently have announced.

Edit: could also do one in November to highlight all the holiday titles and then tease 1st half 2018 titles with a focus on 3rd parties.

I think we'll get a small direct or trailer for Zelda DLC.....well soon. dang it's taking a while.

But I think a real direct will come in January