the first oneSo which sites and sources can we agree on as being our gold standard for Alder Lake performance numbers?
Who's it gonna be?
- Gamer's Nexus?
- Anandtech?
- HotHardware?
- Linus?
- Tom's Hardware?
- Leonidas.com?
*Secretly checks Leonidas.com* Oh that's not exactly what I expected.So which sites and sources can we agree on as being our gold standard for Alder Lake performance numbers?
Who's it gonna be?
- Gamer's Nexus?
- Anandtech?
- HotHardware?
- Linus?
- Tom's Hardware?
- Leonidas.com?
*Secretly checks Leonidas.com* Oh that's not exactly what I expected.
When's this NDA dropping?
Yep. If the CPU doesn't throttle (I assume it doesn't, Linus isn't stupid), those are some really good numbers. I expect AMD to drop those prices.Looking at those Linus benches….not bad. Nice to see Intel offering up something decent!
Yep. If the CPU doesn't throttle (I assume it doesn't, Linus isn't stupid), those are some really good numbers. I expect AMD to drop those prices.
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Everything checks out.
5900X 24 Threads v 12900K 24 Threads
8545 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 10180
Intel 12900K up by 19% over same thread count 5900X.
What are you looking at? Power draw?
Interestingly the power draw is nearly identical during gaming load, if we're to believe LTT leak, but yeah if you're using your pc mostly as a workstation then Z3 might be the better choice. Just wait a few hours and you know what to pick.Obviously.
The 12900k takes nearly twice as much power to be 19% better lol.
But sure, if you want to have a power draw of a small town, you can keep going with intel. Next CPU 400W for 15% increase?
Interestingly the power draw is nearly identical during gaming load, if we're to believe LTT leak, but yeah if you're using your pc mostly as a workstation then Z3 might be the better choice. Just wait a few hours and you know what to pick.
Intel CPU's have been running too hot for the last 4 gens or more. You absolutely need a good aftermarket cooler for them.the entire point of buying a cpu with more than 8 cores is not just for gaming. Gaming is such a small segment for these cpu's you know that right? Imagine buying a bunch of dell workstations, or dell business desktops with these CPU's for your company. And see your PR department who are making videos uploading them to your site, and making company media using these?
Close to 100 degrees at 241w. Good luck running a render for a web video or instructional video for your company and leaving it render while you go make a coffee. I guess the plus side if you live where it gets cold you can heat your office.
Intel CPU's have been running too hot for the last 4 gens or more. You absolutely need a good aftermarket cooler for them.
~10% over Zen 3 performance at up to 50% higher power consumption in anything but games would be really....really bad for a brand new architecture competing with one that`s already a year old............
Let`s hope for us consumer`s sakes that the few leaked benchmarks don`t tell the whole story.
Well, we might not see Zen 4 until late 2022.~10% over Zen 3 performance at up to 50% higher power consumption in anything but games would be really....really bad for a brand new architecture competing with one that`s already a year old............
Let`s hope for us consumer`s sakes that the few leaked benchmarks don`t tell the whole story.
Well, we might not see Zen 4 until late 2022.
Ubisoft open world games have always been like that. Optimization is shit.100fps average in Far Cry 6 @1080p with the best CPU and GPU you can possibly have. Wow.
Yes, I was talking more from a productivity point of view, where the extra cache wouldn't be so helpful. The 12600k could still be decently positioned in that regard.But you're going to see the V-Cache 5000 series in late Jan/February.
Do you ready for 500W+ GPU?when RTX4080 drops
Serious question, if you're trying to build a new system, why wouldn't you go with Alder Lake if AMD keeps current prices?Not impressive absolutely, you need high clock memory for good result, otherwise meh
Taken from LTT video that got quickly pulled.
Because i would wait for Zen3d and compared them, but if it burns take, then the choice is Alder Lake. Ofcourse if you have money for ddr5 etcif you're trying to build a new system, why wouldn't you go with Alder Lake if AMD keeps current prices?
Serious question, if you're trying to build a new system, why wouldn't you go with Alder Lake if AMD keeps current prices?
I'll take a wait and see approach but I could easily see myself upgrading my X570/3900X to an Alder Lake if the performance justify it AND the systems are stable.
This is a good response. I failed to notice that Z690 motherboard costs are starting at $300 and many are as high as $399. Alder Lake is a pretty significant investment right now. While Alder Lake is indisputably faster than Ryzen 4000, the cost benefit still keeps AMD in the ball park of competitive. B550 motherboards can be had for well under $200 and if AMD drops prices on their CPUs then AMD becomes very attractive.You actually require a top of the line cooler with Alder lake if your doing any Productivity work. And require a bigger compensation for Powersupply since it pulls 240w at full P1 state.
Price wise they are close, but where the price increase is really on intel is cooling your setup with a costly AIO shown in Gamers Nexus video which is on the expensive side. For a really good AIO your looking at $120-150. Even on Air which is probably not recommended your looking at $100+ for a high end Noctua which also takes up shit loads of room in your case. As apposed to AMD where you can have a modest 240m cooler, or a cooler master 212h which is 30$.