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FactsDoubt. Got one myself, because i couldn't get a X. Super happy right now, FH5 and Halo look absolutely great on it, with Game Pass the best bang for the buck.
FactsDoubt. Got one myself, because i couldn't get a X. Super happy right now, FH5 and Halo look absolutely great on it, with Game Pass the best bang for the buck.
Also Gears Tactics and Flight Simulator.They delivered halo and forza. Something xbox used to deliver.
I think so, especially among the casual crowd.The series s will win this generation. It will be the wii of this generation
SHHHHHH! If we acknowledge that microsoft has put out more games over the past five years than halo, gears, and forza, we wont have any ammo for the warzz!Also Gears Tactics and Flight Simulator.
You must have missed the million promotional pieces that clearly stated it was DESIGNED to run games at 1440p resolutions or less. System power is not solely derived from the max resolution the games run at. Name a game on the X1X that has hardware based raytracing. Just one. Someone should pay you to go learn what you are talking about before popping off.So why can’t it run games in native 4K like the Xbox one X that was released in 2017?
I am sure Phil has some of you on pay roll in this thread …
Welcome back. Please try not to get banned anymore you have some insightful commentary.People are happy to buy a SeriesS most likely for a number of reasons.
Imo SeriesS is a calculated and clever move. A 2nd console option, impulse buy, family console, budget console, not other consoles in stock, gamepass portal, Xbox exclusives portal.
Whatever the reason Xbox is happy.
Its certainly a different approach instead of going toe to toe with the competition (they are doing that too), its like a "why not both " strategy
The Xbox hasn't been really huge in the UK since the X360. The X1 was not nearly as popular and that is a big part of the slower adoption of the XSS is due to the drop in popularity of the Xbox brand. The XSX is so scarce it isn't a good indicator of overall popularity. MS will have to rebuild the good will it lost last generation. Thankfully they are off a much better start than last generation.Not really. Just look at the situation in Europe xss sitting on shelves whilst xsx sells out within minutes, the demand from casuals is more towards xsx than xss.
One of the biggest European markets for xbox is the uk and you can easily buy xss right now and some retailers have offered discounts in the past to get rid of them. Just go check stock alert accounts for xbox the majority of people are asking for xsx, hell I've seen people come on ps5 stock alert account and ask for xsx and these are casuals trying to find a console for their kids for christmas.
Then those developers are going to be happy to learn the XDK allows for multiple versions of games to be made in a single development cycle. Also the XSS is $200 cheaper than the the XSX. Someone looking to get on Gamepass can't find a cheaper place to do that. Of course I'm sure you knew that since we can always rely on your vast knowledge of all things Xbox right Frank?Maybe the reason is the s is taking away developers time that could be better spent on the premium consoles. All so people could save $100.
For me i think XSX will sell more when we get to the end of the gen. Itts simply impossible to judge this stuff when XSX is still so hard to find, while XSS is widely available.I think so, especially among the casual crowd. Also cant help but lol at how triggering this thread was for some gaf users
Yeah absolutley. I think youll have kids who get a series s now then in 5 years when they are a little older will want a series xFor me i think XSX will sell more when we get to the end of the gen. Itts simply impossible to judge this stuff when XSX is still so hard to find, while XSS is widely available.
There is no doubt XSS will do well with the casuals though, and with parents at Christmas, birthdays, etc.
Depends how cheap the Series X will get over time or notFor me i think XSX will sell more when we get to the end of the gen. Itts simply impossible to judge this stuff when XSX is still so hard to find, while XSS is widely available.
There is no doubt XSS will do well with the casuals though, and with parents at Christmas, birthdays, etc.
The Switch OLED.Outselling the Switch is a big deal.
the series s was the best selling console on black friday, so it beat the standard switch sku tooDepends how cheap the Series X will get over time or not
The Switch OLED.
Not all Switch SKUs combined
Best selling individual sku =/ bestselling platform.the series s was the best selling console on black friday, so it beat the standard switch sku too
They delivered halo and forza. Something xbox used to deliver.
I love how every single thread like this has to justify "because of availability".
flight sim, psychonauts 2 , Age of empire. you continue to push a fantasy narrativeThey delivered halo and forza. Something xbox used to deliver.
Yes.It would appear that all the bets Spencer and Xbox have made are paying dividends in the end. Gamepass is growing immensely, releasing on PC makes Microsoft titles consistently in the top 10 of steam sales, Producing more XSS than XSX knowing that in a period of gifts (and post COVID) a next gen console would have sold easily and at the same time being full digital ... every XSS sold is very, very, very very likely that it will turn into a gamepass subscription....which for Microsoft is even more important than the hardware sale itself
It would appear that all the bets Spencer and Xbox have made are paying dividends in the end. Gamepass is growing immensely, releasing on PC makes Microsoft titles consistently in the top 10 of steam sales, Producing more XSS than XSX knowing that in a period of gifts (and post COVID) a next gen console would have sold easily and at the same time being full digital ... every XSS sold is very, very, very very likely that it will turn into a gamepass subscription....which for Microsoft is even more important than the hardware sale itself
We were just on a little ride.What does this have to do with the topic?
Not if they had just released a $400 digital x which is what I was saying.Also the XSS is $200 cheaper than the the XSX.
would have been even easier and no doubt if they made the digital x. Maybe those series x games wouldn’t have some of those bugs?Then those developers are going to be happy to learn the XDK allows for multiple versions of games to be made in a single development cycle.
Hell no! I thought gamepass was $1 a month and it was actually $1 for 3 years(.03 cents a month) I thought the subscriber numbers would be over 30 million and I was over by 40%(only 21 million) I thought the s and gamepass was the best value in gaming and here they are sitting on shelves on the biggest shopping weekend of the year. And I also thought the series s would be discontinued within 2 years and then Microsoft decided to gimp series x production for their servers and made a ton of s consoles available within the same quarter they released 2 flagship titles. I’m wrong a lot.Of course I'm sure you knew that since we can always rely on your vast knowledge of all things Xbox right Frank?
you said the switch oled, i corrected you that it also beat the regular switch too. thats the point. the console that dominated black friday was the xbox series s. and based on how many series X vs switch oled there were, and how much more the series s outsold the regular switch,its very possible the xbox platform sold the most combined.Best selling individual sku =/ bestselling platform.
That's the point.
Saying dominated is a bit of a stretch without numbers, obviously xss did well,you said the switch oled, i corrected you that it also beat the regular switch too. thats the point. the console that dominated black friday was the xbox series s
from the business insider article. "An unlikely video game console is dominating sales on one of the biggest shopping days of the year: The $300 Xbox Series S console from Microsoft, according to the Adobe Digital Economy Index."Saying dominated is a bit of a stretch without numbers, obviously xss did well,
But it also doesn't answer if xsx+xss out performed switch+switch oled+switch lite on the strength of xss
I don't think the APU is the most expensive component any more. A single 16gbit GDDR6 chip costs almost $30 these days. Sony/MS will obviously have different contracts but even at half price then it's still $120 for the 8 chips in a PS5.
Given the shortage then I don't think it's surprising that MS would prioritize the Series S. It only needs 5 chips compared with 6+4 in the X so they can probably produce a lot more of them. And in return they gain more GP subscribers and software sales.
People cant seem to accept that fact. They think you need 3080 like console to enjoy the next gen games. Most pc gamers play dota, counter strike and those low end gaming pc games. same thing for consoles. Graphics or fps is just rich people's word.
It's mainly for show on forums and social media where Series S gets hate. People who spend all of their time talking about video games are the ones who have the problem with it. People who actually play video games don't have a problem with it.
I thought the s and gamepass was the best value in gaming and here they are sitting on shelves on the biggest shopping weekend of the year. And I also thought the series s would be discontinued within 2 years and then Microsoft decided to gimp series x production for their servers and made a ton of s consoles available within the same quarter they released 2 flagship titles. I’m wrong a lot.
Says site unavailable when I click your link.
Out of stock.
People being salty in this thread because the Green Rat Army is growing? That was inevitable.
I tried here, scrolled all the way down and says out of stock. So I figured that’s what that other link being not available meant.Says site unavailable when I click your link.
They never updated the tweet, in the comments they say still available.
Who cares about 4k when you’re stuck in the mud at 30 frames?So why can’t it run games in native 4K like the Xbox one X that was released in 2017?
I am sure Phil has some of you on pay roll in this thread …
Who cares about 4k when you’re stuck in the mud at 30 frames?
last gen systems were ass because they couldn’t have the horse power for field of view changes and solid 60 frames. The S brings that next gen feature to people who want that.
Yes, the pack-in Xbox Series Sports will be a hit with retirement communities, as will be that oh-so-familiar remote control styled controller.I think so, especially among the casual crowd.
But that's more expensive than the Series S... The Series S' price point is what's going to help it continue to sell well as the gen goes on and the Series X and PS5 refuse to drop in price.Nope. I said they should have just made an all digital x and priced it at $400 or put in a smaller drive and charged $349-359.
At some point, people should realize that :Do you think that isn't true?
The logic "console is available = the console does not sell" is ridiculous.
This "well it's all that was available!" argument is pure cope. People didn't buy the Wii U and it was pretty available. People buy things they want. We're past enhanced UI and free stimmies (for the time being) so people will naturally buy what they can afford and $300 has always been an attractive/reasonable price for a game console.
Ryzen* CPUI don't think people get that the S has the Vega CPU and RDNA2 GPU that the X has and it's not stuck with the shitty Jaguar CPU the previous gen had.
Yeah, availability definitely didn't help the DreamCast much when PS2 was sold out. A game console is a long-term buy, you don't just grab whatever is there if what you want is unavailable. If it worked like that the new Atari VCS would be flying off shelves.
It's a tad surprising that on a tech based gaming forum there's comments like these that prove that people don't know anything about tech.
1- The Xbox One X was designed to run base Xbox One games at a higher resolution.
2- The Xbox Series S was designed to run Xbox Series X games at a lower resolution.
Huge difference.
Who cares about 4k when you’re stuck in the mud at 30 frames?
last gen systems were ass because they couldn’t have the horse power for field of view changes and solid 60 frames. The S brings that next gen feature to people who want that.
You just made my point in response to the person I was directing it too.
The Series S can't do what a console that was released in 2017 (previous gen) can do, that was the point. If you go back and read the comment I was responding to, you would have a better understanding of the context of the comment.
Never said anything about FPS or that anyone preferred 4K to 1080p.
I simply said the Xbox Series S can't do what a console from the previous gen can do in response to someone saying other wise.
People need to stop taking comments about the Series S as personally attacks its ridiculous you are not being paid by MS to push Series S sales.
can that little console do 120fps? or 60fps? can the games on that console run faster?The Series S can't do what a console that was released in 2017 (previous gen) can do, that was the point. If you go back and read the comment I was responding to, you would have a better understanding of the context of the comment.
That's pretty naïve.
This thread sums it up, some people buy it just because there is nothing else to buy.
Should I buy a Xbox Series S?
Yeah, so I really need a console right now and I only have around $500. I can afford to buy the Xbox Series S and not the X, but I am trying to sell my iPad Air and Magic Keyboard so I can buy the X. Thing is, should I buy an S in the meantime even though I have a 4K TV? I know it’s not the best...www.neogaf.com
A fair few people in there wanted something / anything and immediately regretted it. And go on to advice the OP against the idea. It happens.
There's no downplaying.
Many Xbox fans don't want to accept the fact that the Xbox Series S is readily available compared to the Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5.
1. It's widely available during Black Friday week
2. It's still in stock at many retailers.
No one can really dispute this. The only thing people are going to say is, "you're downplaying it" Because they don't want to accept the truth.
As explained in the article this is just due to availability.
It's not just the PS5, it outsold the Switch as well during that particular day.
It was basically the only console widely available.
PS5, Switch and XSX are selling out in seconds as soon as new stock is available.
In the end it's meaningless since what should be compared are total shipments throughout the week and whole month and we know that Nintendo is going to win that with Sony in second place.
The problem with your point is that ms is just happy with the money their studio's is making.
They need games from these studios on their system. That is main reason they bought it for them.
They aren't going for the money they are bringing. They want new games to drop on their system. We aren't seeing that right now. That is the entire point.
Roadmap is good. But you need games asap. Industries like this dont wait for future games. You will leave your customers restless.
One of the main reason X1 failed badly, was the decline of the 1st party games. All we saw for this gen right now, is repeat of old IP, and 1 Kickstart game.
It will improve in the future, but as of now, I dont see anything new from MS.