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Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherfucking terrible PC ports and their motherfucking stuttering!
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lyan
Member
You will need to do this every time you update your drivers. For the mass public that set it to automatic this could mean, on medicore hardware / non-SSD / bad (threads unused) launch params, couple hours or more wait time repeatedly.
darrylgorn
Member
Just play at 1080p/60 fps.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Interfectum
Member
Not playing CP, but playing MMS (on PC), and it absolutely has this stuttering that people are talking about; I completely forgot about the "shader cache" nonsense which isn't something - I believe - "more power" solves.
. . .you must be one of the lucky ones. Are you not getting stuttering in either game mentioned by folks in this thread?
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
The shittiest ports from consoles from 2006~2011 are far better than the best console versions and there is controller support on PC since middle 90s. Maybe even before.
PhaseJump
Banned
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Had to edit
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
It's ease to notice those who don't or pretend they do or are totally ignorant on operating a pc.
SCB3
Member
I meant for those ports, Assassins Creed is one that comes to mind, No controller support at all, in fact Mass Effect 1 as well
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Very easy to use controllers on both, but for Mass effect I would not use a controller not even if EA paid me as it is a freaking shooter.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Puscifer
Member
Switch to Linux and compile shaders there, the amount of games that don't have these issues is wild.
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DeaDPo0L84
Member
The games I mostly play aren't the ones experiencing these issues as of late. Also the games I do play are far and away better on PC so that's why I mostly remain there. Granted I also own a PS5 so even if a particular game I wanted to play was experiencing issues I'd be covered. That's why I'll never tie myself down to one specific platform.
I have a 4090/13700k PC for 99% of things I play and a PS5 for the exclusives I wish to play day one, perfect setup for me and the wife.
I have a 4090/13700k PC for 99% of things I play and a PS5 for the exclusives I wish to play day one, perfect setup for me and the wife.
Grildon Tundy
Member
Might've been posted already, but I'm about to try this out. Voted one of the most helpful reviews on Steam:
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I understand 2k for a GPU is a lot of money for the vast majority of gamers but there is a decent number of people gaming that 2k doesn't really move the needle of things to spend money onjust getHeisenbergFX4 to buy it for you..apprently he has lots of peanuts, I mean cash lying around.
As others have said here some are into cars and boats and their motors alone for their boats cost way more than that.
Gamerdude123
Banned
Gaming is in a tough spot right now.
You either pay roughly 2k for a 4090 to get a good experience or get a console to play games at 25-30FPS on the equivalent of low/medium PC settings.
You either pay roughly 2k for a 4090 to get a good experience or get a console to play games at 25-30FPS on the equivalent of low/medium PC settings.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Let us know if it works! This is one of the cool things of PC gaming: if something's broken, community is there to fix it.Might've been posted already, but I'm about to try this out. Voted one of the most helpful reviews on Steam:
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Spending $1500-$2000 on the GPU alone, just to play stuttering console ports at 300fps.
It helped for me only with 30fps cap. Worst offender I had so far was Outriders. No matter what system I tried it on: Win10, RTX 2070 Super: stuttery mess. Win11, RTX 3080, stuttery mess. I messed with the RAM clock speed and latency, didn't help. Overclocking, underclocking, a shitton of different driver settings, etc. The only thing that does help a little is to cap it at 30fps because apparently most frame render spikes are shorter than 33.33ms and hence are compensated by the high frame render time of 30fps. But seriously... this game runs easily at +60fps at 4k and I'm not willing to sacrifice that much fps for a game that looks like Outriders just to compensate most stutters (and still not all stutters, by the way).
I've tried so many ridiculous suggestions like disabling a certain anti virus protection (=excluding the game's folder), disabling some Microsoft device at the device manager, etc. Everything I've read upon is a placebo at best because with all the different trying out so shaders get compilated while playing/trying and become less frequently naturally.
But I don't want to play half way through the game in hope to have "seen" any possible shader and have a stutter free game only for the rest of the game. That's not a solution for me. I want it to be smooth from start to finish and if I have to wait, like in games like HZD or CoDMW1, which is still annoying but less so, so be it.
Will do.
Pagusas
Elden Member
"midrange from bring able to max out the game easily" The hell...
TrebleShot
Member
Hold up , the 30 mode is low / medium settings on PS5? Not sure about that one
KormaChameleon
Member
And this is why you don't pre-order or buy games on the day of release. You cannot trust the developers.
i used to feel this way about PC gaming back in the early 2000s with GFWL and all kinds of performance disparities and games running clearly better and easier on consoles.
in fact i believe when 360/ps3 launched they were head to head with the latest PC tech at the time.
in those days, my PC was generally a competitive fps/quake machine and i played most adventure/sports/action on console.
in fact i believe when 360/ps3 launched they were head to head with the latest PC tech at the time.
in those days, my PC was generally a competitive fps/quake machine and i played most adventure/sports/action on console.
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Jayjayhd34
Member
I'm not getting much stutter max setting 4k i9 12900k rtx3080 done 4 hours so far and I've less than ten instances of stutter. Had it really bad in devil in me before the patch.
Bonsaibäumchen
Member
On the contratry and I mean to stay wealthy. Thats why I won't spend unreasonable amounts of money on small barley necessary/visible gains.
I could easily spent 10K on a high end rig. I don't see a reason to do it though. What for? I don't need that to enjoy gaming.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
This thread stinks of the peasantry.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Liar. Get it for $70 on ps5/XB to get worse IQ, higher lag, 60fps limit, no m+kb gunplay, no 21+:9, etc, etc...
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Bonsaibäumchen
Member
Listen I've been tinkering on PC games for 20years. I've got enough of it. I wanna install a game and play it not fiddle around with settings, configs and whatnot. Been there done that. Not interested anymore.
I have friends that are downloadong a game and then spending the first few hours optimizing every possible setting for their rig before playing. I can't be bothered with that kind of stuff anymore.
I'm not enough of a graphics whore anymore.
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Crayon
Member
A $4-500 console gets me 7 years plus like $250 in online fees. (I do look for deals!) I did get $200 for my ps4 thanks to ps5 rendering it completely redundant but I sell pc parts too and that's kinda neither here nor there. On pc parts in the last 6 years it's been like... hmmm. I think like $700 in parts, maybe to keep it up to par with consoles so I have a good shot at running games since console is the baseline. Like right now cyberpunk runs almost exactly the same on my pc and ps5. The ps5 is probably effectively a little faster but there ain't much in it.
A real-ass money pit of a pc is typically used to compare to consoles. "Just play pc and get the best version". lol yeah right. It's unrealistic and a good way to blow a lot of money. I understand that is the whole point of pc for some people but I really think it's a vocal minority.
PhaseJump
Banned
The platform war responses are hilarious.
Imagine being a console warrior and thinking that a low/mid-tier hardware spec with a specific closed DRM ecosystem solves all issues around needing config settings or performance patches, which have been status quo on the open platform for decades; Now in the era of console games releasing with no liberty for config settings, still needing day-one patches.
It's just mind boggling. A broken game is a broken game. Developers make trash. When it happens on consoles it's universal suffering for all, and typically PC gamers have the luxury of saving themselves or helping each other out of it.
Roman Empire
Member
It's fucking disrespectful! Callisto on PC is a travesty and I hate it. Asked for a refund after 10 minutes of playing.
I saw the writing on the wall but wanted to give it a chance. Fuck no!
At least I have other things to play, but this shouldn't be acceptable to be released the way it is.
I saw the writing on the wall but wanted to give it a chance. Fuck no!
At least I have other things to play, but this shouldn't be acceptable to be released the way it is.
Jayjayhd34
Member
Why would make it up ? I'm always been very honest about performance if go back couple days worth of my comments you'll see me complaining about stutter in devil in me if stuttering like that I would be raging.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Sarcasm. I don't doubt you.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Cool. Go enjoy stuff like Shadow of the Colossus at 10fps, OoT at 20, Gotham Knights at 30fps, etc, etc and there is nothing to do about shit stuff like that.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Please, don't bully the N64.
coffinbirth
Member
Some incredibly bad takes in here, lot of peasants, lol.
This what, year three(?) of Epic still not playing nice with DX12. It will get patched, but the stuttering is either from the shader cache or the devs borked the way the PSOs are landing in VRAM, or both.
The moral of the story is playing games DAY 1 on ANY platform, is usually a fools errand.
This what, year three(?) of Epic still not playing nice with DX12. It will get patched, but the stuttering is either from the shader cache or the devs borked the way the PSOs are landing in VRAM, or both.
The moral of the story is playing games DAY 1 on ANY platform, is usually a fools errand.
Topher
Gold Member
You sure XSX is going to solve all his problems with these games?
"cyberpunk, then dying light, Elden ring, Spiderman, sackboy"
The platform war responses are hilarious.
Imagine being a console warrior and thinking that a low/mid-tier hardware spec with a specific closed DRM ecosystem solves all issues around needing config settings or performance patches, which have been status quo on the open platform for decades; Now in the era of console games releasing with no liberty for config settings, still needing day-one patches.
It's just mind boggling. A broken game is a broken game. Developers make trash. When it happens on consoles it's universal suffering for all, and typically PC gamers have the luxury of saving themselves or helping each other out of it.
Really doesn't make a lot of sense to make this about platforms, does it? Consoles are by the far the last place I'm going to play Gotham Knights and the lack of high frame rate options. Not saying the game runs great on PC, but at least I'm not stuck with a single 30fps mode. People who live in glass houses, etc. etc.
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Magic Carpet
Member
So it could be done? All I need is the option to set it and forget it. I'll happily let my PC do something in the background while I'm surfing the net or watching Netflix.
The problem is:
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU GUYS BUY PC GAMES DAY ONE???
As a rule of thumb wait 6 months to a year to get the superior and way cheaper experience. Hell maybe it's on gsmepass by then.
The software industry is all about releasing broken shit that will eventually be fixed (minimum viable product)
Just adapt and pay the minimum viable price for said games down the line.
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU GUYS BUY PC GAMES DAY ONE???
As a rule of thumb wait 6 months to a year to get the superior and way cheaper experience. Hell maybe it's on gsmepass by then.
The software industry is all about releasing broken shit that will eventually be fixed (minimum viable product)
Just adapt and pay the minimum viable price for said games down the line.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Maybe all they know about is the last heavy marketed AAA(A) game. There are hundreds of games out there yet most people tend to play the same shit as everyone else.
asdasdasdbb
Member
I assume you have to completely halt everything to compile the shader if you do it on demand. That's why the stuttering is happening.