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[Gamezone]

Not looking good for early adopters of physical media.

Star Wars Jedi Survivor physical versions will reportedly require a download to play | VGC

Physical copies of Star Wars Jedi: Survivor will require a download to play.

www.videogameschronicle.com

 

[ManaByte]

Discs can’t hold 150Gb.

 

[Majormaxxx]

What does early adopters of physical media even mean?

 

[Antwix]

Nothing new. With AAA games being as big as they are nowadays, did anyone think publishers were going to keep putting games on multiple discs? Plus most games require a day-one patch anyway.

 

[Majormaxxx]

Discs can’t hold 150Gb.

They are greedy. Could have used 2 100gb discs.

 

[feynoob]

Makes sense since the reported file size on PS5 is about 47 GB larger than the max capacity for a 4K blu ray disc. It would need to be on 2 discs to fit in a physical box.

From reddit.

 

[Majormaxxx]

Nothing new. With AAA games being as big as they are nowadays, did anyone think publishers were going to keep putting games on multiple discs?

An extra disc costs just a few dollars more. They just don't care.

 

[Gamezone]

What does early adopters of physical media even mean?

People who get the disc before release? Happens all the time. Sometimes a week too early.

 

[Wooxsvan]

physical is dead

 

[Mr Hyde]

To think that it has come down to downloading a portion of the game when it comes to physical discs. It's like the Switch cartridge situation where large portions of the game had to be downloaded because publishers were too cheap to manufacture bigger cartridges. It's not fun being a physical collector these days.

 

[Antwix]

An extra disc costs just a few dollars more. They just don't care.

They do care. About profits. It is a business after all.

 

[Black_Stride]

Early adopters of physical media?

What weird weird sentence.

People who get the disc before release? Happens all the time. Sometimes a week too early.

Why are assuming the rest of the game hasnt already uploaded?
The preload starts in 2 days....if someone tries to put the disk in now, chances are the game will "update" itself.
Considering its not actually a day one patch.....its literally the rest of the game.

Ive gotten updates for broken streets dates many many times.

 

[rofif]

Discs can’t hold 150Gb.

compression?
you can have 2 discs?
This is not an excuse

 

[Elder Legend]

Why is this a surprise? Physical media is on the verge of death anyways.

 

[jshackles]

It's not fun being a physical collector these days.

Tell me about it. And, even if the game is somehow magically playable straight off of the disc, you're still getting an inferior product because there are Day One patches that increase the game's performance, fix bugs, etc.

That used to be the mission statement behind Limited Run Games - make physical copies of games that had all the patches rolled in, that could be kept and preserved for years and years after the download servers went offline. Sadly, they were also blinded by greed and now release stuff that's just as broken as the rest of the physical releases.

 

[[Sigma]]

No thank you. Unless someone else buys me this game, have fun. Maybe one day when it's $5.

 

[ManaByte]

That used to be the mission statement behind Limited Run Games - make physical copies of games that had all the patches rolled in, that could be kept and preserved for years and years after the download servers went offline. Sadly, they were also blinded by greed and now release stuff that's just as broken as the rest of the physical releases.

They also fired an employee for wanting to buy a Harry Potter game.

 

[Quezacolt]

Plus most games require a day-one patch anyway.

This is false. most games can be played without the day 1 patch and they work fine.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

This is false. most games can be played without the day 1 patch and they work fine.

Dunno about fine but you should be able to complete the game. Given how buggy most AAA games are at launch, imagine playing the GM build without the Day 0 patch.

 

[Nydius]

physical is dead

I’ll still be able to trade in, give away, or otherwise resell the physical disk, even if it doesn’t contain the entire game on it.

Call me when digital allows me to do the same. Until that point, I will continue to buy physical because I’m not bending over and letting companies take away what few consumer copyright protections I have for the sake of “convenience”.

 

[Ar¢tos]

Discs can’t hold 150Gb.

Well.. They can...
There are double sided BDXL 200GB discs (100GB per side).

 

[SeraphJan]

What's the point of the physical disc then?

 

[SlimySnake]

Discs can’t hold 150Gb.

Rdr2, ff7, and several other games have come on two discs when the limit was 50 gb.

Now that its 100 gb, there is nothing stopping them for including two 4k uhd discs. Aside from being cheap.

 

[BreakOut]

A ton of games require downloads now, day 1 patches. So it’s not exactly a surprise. It sucks for game preservation, because there are a shit load of games that do that. Some of them I’m sure do it specifically so if people get the game early they are locked out. It is a problem in my opinion, used two discs. For $70 it wouldn’t kill them. I wonder what will happen when servers and stuff go down.

Is there any group of people that are fighting to reserve games like this? Even if they go down off-line? Like ripping the data from the desk, whatever? I guess it can always be done on PC right?

On a sidenote does anyone know if you have to log in to EA to play this game? The EA account linked to my PlayStation doesn’t work and they won’t let me recover it because I can’t answer a bunch of absurd questions. They also won’t unlink it. They said they can’t verify my identity, which is weird because Activision when you send them a picture of my ID and proof.
I digress though, I know it’s single player, but —if anyone knows whether or not they force you to log into play— I would appreciate it.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Well, i'm still going physical so I can trade the bad boy in when im done.

 

[makaveli60]

Oh well, then I won’t buy it on disc and will wait for a great digital saleor buy it used. Which means they lost money from me.

 

[TexMex]

An extra disc costs just a few dollars more. They just don't care.

Not even a few dollars. Total garbage move.

 

[Gamezone]

Nothing new. With AAA games being as big as they are nowadays, did anyone think publishers were going to keep putting games on multiple discs? Plus most games require a day-one patch anyway.

Uh, yes...? Many publishers release their new console games on two discs.

 

[near]

All this hoo-ha and the article doesn't even confirm how much content the discs will even hold? This really doesn't seem that big of a deal.

 

[Quezacolt]

Dunno about fine but you should be able to complete the game. Given how buggy most AAA games are at launch, imagine playing the GM build without the Day 0 patch.

My internet is pretty bad, so most games i play without having the day 1 patch installed and the only one i can remember having issues, but those were also present with the day 1 patch, was the callisto protocol.

 

[Gamezone]

All this hoo-ha and the article doesn't even confirm how much content the discs will even hold? This really doesn't seem that big of a deal.

How much data can UHD carry? Less than 100GB? If that's the case, one third of the game have to be downloaded.

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

Welcome to modern gaming. It's not 1980 anymore

 

[kingwingin]

No longer grabbing this on day one. Will wait for it to hit the bargain bin then shoplift it.

 

[ManaByte]

No longer grabbing this on day one. Will wait for it to hit the bargain bin then shoplift it.

 

[near]

How much data can UHD carry? Less than 100GB? If that's the case, one third of the game have to be downloaded.

Triple layered have a capacity of 100GB, if you only have to download 1/3 of the total file size, it really doesn't seem like a huge deal to me.

 

[ComputerBlue]

Discs can’t hold 150Gb.

So? Ship with multiple discs. Red Dead 2, TLOU 2 etc.

 

[Captain Toad]

The days of physical are over. Let it go. Don't be the old dude still going outside to get his newspaper.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Triple layered have a capacity of 100GB, if you only have to download 1/3 of the total file size, it really doesn't seem like a huge deal to me.

I wouldn't be surprised if the "1.0" that's on the disc is very tiny and the Day 0 patch is essentially the whole game.

My internet is pretty bad, so most games i play without having the day 1 patch installed and the only one i can remember having issues, but those were also present with the day 1 patch, was the callisto protocol.

But you still should be able to download patches while you sleep, no? Maybe it's metered.

So? Ship with multiple discs. Red Dead 2, TLOU 2 etc.

I think the point is that gamers are pretty much conditioned that a physical release requires a Day 0 patch anyway... it's not worth the effort making a two disc release for the 1% of people who would complain about the Day 0 patch being 100-something GB instead of 40-50. Esp when most of that 1% is probably people who played on a pirated console and even stole the game from a retailer (as noted above)

 

[nikos]

Can probably download the game five times in the time it takes the PS5 to install a disc.

 

[Majormaxxx]

Their thinking is like this: the game will require patches anyway (duh) so might as well ship it like that with a day zero Patch yo save a buck or two on an additional Blu ray 100. It's not entirely without merit. For example cyberpunk shipped on two discs and in it's current state the discs are mostly useless. Pretty much the whole game is downloaded. If I recall cold war also required a day zero download?

 

[nightmare-slain]

This needs to be the last generation with physical media. There is no point in it anymore. On Nintendo consoles maybe but it's useless on PlayStation or Xbox.

 

[Nankatsu]

Still there next Friday. Can't wait.

 

[Portugeezer]

Physical owners still own the disc.

 

[Umbasaborne]

Dont all games require a download to play now? Except nintendo I guess

 

[Majormaxxx]

Not even a few dollars. Total garbage move.

See? This is something gaming journalism could tackle - anticonsumer behavior. But instead they choose to do what they currently do...

 

[StereoVsn]

This needs to be the last generation with physical media. There is no point in it anymore. On Nintendo consoles maybe but it's useless on PlayStation or Xbox.

You can still resell the game, download or not. Plus physical games are often cheaper on consoles at release, especially in Europe.

 

[Gamezone]

Dont all games require a download to play now? Except nintendo I guess

No, only a few COD titles have required downloads. Most games are fully playable from beginning to end from the disc

 

[intbal]

Not even a few dollars. Total garbage move.

At the height of DVDs popularity, discs were pressed for $0.08 per copy.
I don't know if blu-ray was ever that cheap, but I suspect it's still pretty affordable for the publishers.

 

[Antwix]

Uh, yes...? Many publishers release their new console games on two discs.

Never said they didn't but it's stupid to think publishers will keep doing it.

 

[Puscifer]

Tell me about it. And, even if the game is somehow magically playable straight off of the disc, you're still getting an inferior product because there are Day One patches that increase the game's performance, fix bugs, etc.

That used to be the mission statement behind Limited Run Games - make physical copies of games that had all the patches rolled in, that could be kept and preserved for years and years after the download servers went offline. Sadly, they were also blinded by greed and now release stuff that's just as broken as the rest of the physical releases.

They also hold onto a level of stock to flip on eBay, such bullshit