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So Starfield will be GOTY, right?

Will starfield be GOTY


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But DIablo 4 is sooooo good.
I think the key here is "4".
I'm sick of sequels in movies and now gaming. Diablo 4 is just more Diablo. TOTK is just more BOTW. SpiderMan2 is just more SpiderMan, etc.
What I want is something fresh that has not been done that gives a new experience that I've not had before, not just a slightly improved version of what I've experienced already.
Starfield feels like it can be that, and if it delivers it will be the GOTY for me.
 

feynoob

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Do we need a poll how many here actually have a PC?
The 30fps complaints are popping up left and right as if a PC version won’t be there day 1. In other threads people keep saying they don’t need a PS5 if exclusives would come out day 1 on PC.
🤔
It's privileged people who think 4k 60 fps is easy on consoles.
 
It really depends on the amount of hype surrounding the game at launch and later. I still believe that Zelda will probably win, however Starfield offers one of the strongest selling points of TotK - crafting - but on a bigger scale, so who knows.
 
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It really depends on the amount of hype surrounding the game at launch and later. I still believe that Zelda will probably win, however Starfield offers one of the strongest selling points of TotK - crafting - but on a bigger scale, so who knows.

Crafting in Starfield is not physics based.

Crafting in Zelda is not persistent.

It's a give and take between the two, but looking strictly at crafting, Zelda gets a slight edge cause it feels new.

Overall though, battle is tough.
 

GymWolf

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I think the key here is "4".
I'm sick of sequels in movies and now gaming. Diablo 4 is just more Diablo. TOTK is just more BOTW. SpiderMan2 is just more SpiderMan, etc.
What I want is something fresh that has not been done that gives a new experience that I've not had before, not just a slightly improved version of what I've experienced already.
Starfield feels like it can be that, and if it delivers it will be the GOTY for me.
If you put it that way, starfield feels like skyrim\fallout in space, not exactly super fresh neither.

If you think that it's gonna play any different from their previous games i have a mazinga spaceship to sell you.
 
If you put it that way, starfield feels like skyrim\fallout in space, not exactly super fresh neither.

If you think that it's gonna play any different from their previous games i have a mazinga spaceship to sell you.
It's not the same, in those game you're literally doing basically the same things, the same way, with minor modifications.

Starfield you're doing things very different from those games, you can build ships, board ships, etc. And all in a new setting in space vs medieval fantasy or post-apocalyptic. Whereas those other games continue the same setting, giving me a "been there, done that" feel.
 

GymWolf

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It's not the same, in those game you're literally doing basically the same things, the same way, with minor modifications.

Starfield you're doing things very different from those games, you can build ships, board ships, etc. And all in a new setting in space vs medieval fantasy or post-apocalyptic. Whereas those other games continue the same setting, giving me a "been there, done that" feel.
Yeah i'm sure that pressing a button to board a ship and them playing like a normal fps must be completely different than how you played missions in fallout...

Also sure that having spaceship crafting instead of shelter crafting from f4 must open not less than 100 new ways to do things.

We are gonna see soon how diverse the game is gonna feel compared to their previous games except for the space makeup.
 
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If you put it that way, starfield feels like skyrim\fallout in space, not exactly super fresh neither.

If you think that it's gonna play any different from their previous games i have a mazinga spaceship to sell you.

You can change biome you wanna play in at will.

Pretty big innovation IMO.
 
It's definitely Zelda. But I expect Dead Space, RE4 and Hogwarts to be nominated and you didn't even mention those.
I think all those would be nominated ahead of FFXVI or Diablo 4.
 

GymWolf

Gold Member
You can change biome you wanna play in at will.

Pretty big innovation IMO.
So like any open world with multiple biomes where you move a bit in the map to find a completely different biome?

Neat.

Like i understand having 1000 planets (that are probably randomly made by an ia for the most part) but different biomes is not the gatcha moment you were hoping for, many open world have different biomes in their maps, taking a spaceship to get there instead of traversing with an horse is exactly the space make up i was talking before, it's not really new but it kinda feels different on a surface level.

Hell even old stuff like mass effect or more recently andromeda and no man sky let you visit different planets and biomes.
 
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MetalRain

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I think it will have positive and negative surprises.

Maybe it has very good random encounters and world will awe players more than they expect.
Maybe economy is unbalanced and people don't find compelling reason to explore all planets.

For example I was first impressed about Fallout 4 basebuilding, but it didn't really matter for gameplay so ended up not using too much. I expect that all "new" features of Starfield will not be that compelling.

I think Zelda had solid base and then some, it will be hard to beat.
 
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The media industry suck Nintendo's cock too hard in some places. This is one of them. Tears of the Kingdom looks good from what I've seen my fiancee play, but it's not like an absolute must have for me. It's not pushing any boundaries etc.

But it sure won't be Starfield. How generic that looks visually. The art lead direction just looks so bourgeois.
 

ADiTAR

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I think it will have positive and negative surprises.

Maybe it has very good random encounters and world will awe players more than they expect.
Maybe economy is unbalanced and people don't find compelling reason to explore all planets.

For example I was first impressed about Fallout 4 basebuilding, but it didn't really matter for gameplay so ended up not using too much. I expect that all "new" features of Starfield will not be that compelling.

I think Zelda had solid base and then some, it will be hard to beat.
TotK has a lot of surprise and wonder. There's a clear reason why they wanted to keep the previous world, so you're constantly surprised by changes and discoveries you make.

If Starfield can do that, keep surprising you, I think they may have a shot.
 
Yeah i'm sure that pressing a button to board a ship and them playing like a normal fps must be completely different than how you played missions in fallout...

Also sure that having spaceship crafting instead of shelter crafting from f4 must open not less than 100 new ways to do things.

We are gonna see soon how diverse the game is gonna feel compared to their previous games except for the space makeup.
I feel like you're doing the whole deconstruction to an extreme, why not just claim all video games are pressing buttons on a controller or keyboard and therefore they all have the same game play.

Just the world building alone gives Starfield a unique feel to the game contrasted with Fallout 4 or Skyrim. In an order of magnitude compared with different version of Sanctuary in Diablo or difference in the world between BOTW and TOTK. If you cannot recognize that I don't think we can have a real conversation about video games.
 

GymWolf

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I feel like you're doing the whole deconstruction to an extreme, why not just claim all video games are pressing buttons on a controller or keyboard and therefore they all have the same game play.

Just the world building alone gives Starfield a unique feel to the game contrasted with Fallout 4 or Skyrim. In an order of magnitude compared with different version of Sanctuary in Diablo or difference in the world between BOTW and TOTK. If you cannot recognize that I don't think we can have a real conversation about video games.
Don't get me wrong, i like the scope and all of that, i'm a sucker for open world games, i just don't see this mindblowing paragon shifting gameplay from starfield, just a well crafted (hopefully) big ass open world game with bethesda strong points (and probably weak points) that we all know.

I'm pretty sure that i'm gonna like the game more than tokt if that make you feel better.
 

Cashon

Banned
Don't get me wrong, i like the scope and all of that, i'm a sucker for open world games, i just don't see this mindblowing paragon shifting gameplay from starfield, just a well crafted (hopefully) big ass open world game with bethesda strong points (and probably weak points) that we all know.

I'm pretty sure that i'm gonna like the game more than tokt if that make you feel better.
I agree with you here. The game does look like it will be great, assuming it comes out in a state consistent with what has been shown so far.

But it's not a paradigm shift.

That being said, neither is Tears of the Kingdom (nor was Breath of the Wild).

Personally, I think Game of the Year should be based on, contrary to what critics like to say, the sum of its parts and how well those parts will hold up over time. In that respect, Starfield should come out on top due to having more to do and see, in addition to having an actual story.
 

gothmog

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I've played TotK and D4. I haven't played Starfield. I hope it's better than both of those games but I doubt it. I would love to be wrong.
 

Danjin44

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Armored VI and to anyone who disagrees…….
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It would Armored Core, another From Software masterpiece.
It’d be so crazy if AC6 beats TOTK but I’m here all over it if it happens.

About Starfield, to me it sounds like everyone wants or expects something different from this game and there’s NO way it can please everyone. Is it Mass Effect 4? Is it GTA in Space? Is it No Man’s Sky but better? Is it Skyrim 2?

The answer is probably no, and it’ll piss off everyone. I think the game looks amazing and everyone should give it a chance on its own merits. It looks ambitious as hell, but there’s no way it’ll make Xbox outsell PS5 and become the #1 console, which seems to be the hope, that it will “save” Xbox. Let’s all play it, give it a chance and give it a fair review to see how fun it is. I somewhat expect there to be some stupid bugs and some rough edges, but fuck it, if it is fun, I’ll enjoy my time with it!
 

Mhmmm 2077

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90% sure it will, I feel like TotK won't get it, cus BotW already won before. And the rest of the nominees won't come even close, cus what's else gonna be nominated? Diablo 4, maybe Spiderman 2, maaaaybe Hogwarts Legacy? Unless Phantom Liberty counts, but it's an expansion, so it most definitely won't.
 

Otre

Banned
When the Zelda we got is such a massive upgrade in design and story, doubtful. Even if for some reason its not TotK, a bethesda jankfest topping Diablo IV, SF6 and posibbly FF16 and Spiderman 2 is almost impossible.


I like bethesda rpgs but their launch history is borderline broken jankfests with mediocre battle systems and bad main stories.
 

Nydius

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TOTK is just more BOTW

It's a hell of a lot more than just "more BOTW". In almost every regard TOTK has superceded anything and everything BOTW did. Everything that earned BOTW its original GOTY award.

Unless Starfield releases and has game devs creaming themselves on social media, asking how the hell Bethesda was able to create the game like they were asking Nintendo about TOTK (re: fusion and physics), GOTY is firmly in TOTK's camp.
 
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Fredrik

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to me it sounds like everyone wants or expects something different from this game and there’s NO way it can please everyone. Is it Mass Effect 4? Is it GTA in Space? Is it No Man’s Sky but better? Is it Skyrim 2?

The answer is probably no, and it’ll piss off everyone.
Think this way instead:
There is no GTA in space.
There is no No Man’s Sky but better.
There is no Mass Effect 4.

But there is Starfield. Well, soon.

I think it’s aiming for an empty spot in the industry. There is nothing like it.

What I see is:
Mass Effect with more planets and deeper role playing.
No Man’s Sky with a AAA budget, big cities, ship building and role playing.
Skyrim/Fallout in space with more biome variety.

It’s a fantastic combo for anyone that is into scifi and roleplaying. As a fan of the previously mentioned IPs I don’t care that it probably won’t do every little thing from those games. It’s the combo that is so appealing.
 
So like any open world with multiple biomes where you move a bit in the map to find a completely different biome?

Neat.

Like i understand having 1000 planets (that are probably randomly made by an ia for the most part) but different biomes is not the gatcha moment you were hoping for, many open world have different biomes in their maps, taking a spaceship to get there instead of traversing with an horse is exactly the space make up i was talking before, it's not really new but it kinda feels different on a surface level.

Hell even old stuff like mass effect or more recently andromeda and no man sky let you visit different planets and biomes.

Not at this scale though. It's like it combines best parts of Mass Effect and No Man's Sky.

Freedom to visit which planet you want coupled with a narrative and quest system.

We also need to see how much simulation is there in the game. Traditionally Bethesda games have little scripting, with a lot of stuff you wouldn't expect to be simulated. Jury is still out on how much is there (Skyrim has ridiculous amounts of it), but it will be deciding factor as that will allow biggest role playing possibilities.
 

Dutchy

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90% sure it will, I feel like TotK won't get it, cus BotW already won before.
That shouldn't be relevant. But it probably will be.

I've never liked or cared about GOTY's because it feels to me like they're always taking the safest route in their decision making.
 

Ozriel

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It looks ambitious as hell, but there’s no way it’ll make Xbox outsell PS5 and become the #1 console, which seems to be the hope, that it will “save” Xbox.

Why would you think this is what people hope for or expect ? 😂
It’s going to be a system seller for Xbox, but nobody’s out there imagining it’ll lead to Xbox becoming the #1 console
 

Ozriel

M$FT
When the Zelda we got is such a massive upgrade in design and story, doubtful. Even if for some reason its not TotK, a bethesda jankfest topping Diablo IV, SF6 and posibbly FF16 and Spiderman 2 is almost impossible.


I like bethesda rpgs but their launch history is borderline broken jankfests with mediocre battle systems and bad main stories.


This doesn’t seem based in reality
 
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Some of you guys are setting yourselves up for a No Man Sky type melt down on launch

I expect an interesting but flawed game that will have a lot of issues. But is still enjoyable if you can overlook them.

So basically a Bethesda game.
 

Ozriel

M$FT
Some of you guys are setting yourselves up for a No Man Sky type melt down on launch

They literally had a deep dive showing off - with near final game code - some of the features in the game. How is that anywhere close to a No Man’s Sky type meltdown where promised features (that were never shown off, mind you) never materialized?

I expect an interesting but flawed game that will have a lot of issues. But is still enjoyable if you can overlook them.

So basically a Bethesda game.

That’s not how critic and user reviews describe Skyrim, though.

I really, really wonder why there’s a number of you so dedicated to hype moderation. What’s the point, really? Let people enjoy what they want.
 
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GymWolf

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I agree with you here. The game does look like it will be great, assuming it comes out in a state consistent with what has been shown so far.

But it's not a paradigm shift.

That being said, neither is Tears of the Kingdom (nor was Breath of the Wild).

Personally, I think Game of the Year should be based on, contrary to what critics like to say, the sum of its parts and how well those parts will hold up over time. In that respect, Starfield should come out on top due to having more to do and see, in addition to having an actual story.
I think tokt and his freedom of approach for puzzles and combat is way more paradigm shift than starfield is ever gonna be, botw was barely a tech demo for it.

For the bolded part, dude tokt is gonna have people finding new wacky shit to do for at least another 5 years like it was for botw, and frankly a goty is the best game of the year, not what you are gonna play for 5 years, people play fortnite for years, does that mean that fortnite is a goty candidate?
 

Cashon

Banned
I think tokt and his freedom of approach for puzzles and combat is way more paradigm shift than starfield is ever gonna be, botw was barely a tech demo for it.

For the bolded part, dude tokt is gonna have people finding new wacky shit to do for at least another 5 years like it was for botw, and frankly a goty is the best game of the year, not what you are gonna play for 5 years, people play fortnite for years, does that mean that fortnite is a goty candidate?
If, relative to the other games that came out in the year that Fortnite released (we'll say specifically the Battle Royale mode), Fortnite is the game that holds up the best however many years later, then yeah... It would be the best game of whatever year it came out. That makes more sense than naming a flash in the pan your game of the year, when people will go back and play it in the future and see that it just doesn't hold up.
 
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