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Super Mario Wonder Announced - Coming 20.10.2023 | Nintendo Direct
- Thread starter KyoZz
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Didn't see anything there to dethrone Super Mario World or even challenge it. Art style is safe and uninspiring. Just seems like Nintendo ran out of ideas for traditional 2D Mario and decided they're gonna do Super Mario Bros. LSD. Donkey Kong is where the real innovation is when it comes to modern 2D platforming.
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Shadowplay1979
Member
same super bland artstyle for the last 20 years...why are they so accepting of swapping zelda designs around but not mario.
CamHostage
Member
It does have a bit of that trippy Yoshi's Island feel to it. No specific core new gameplay mechanic to it like the egg-shooting, but level design gets pretty wild.
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Bernardougf
Gold Member
Mushrooms and this game!!! Fucking A!
Jubenhimer
Member
I am so glad they finally ditched the NSMB moniker and aesthetic. Sure it was novel in 2006, but by the time we got to U, it felt tired and stale.
This looks like the evolution of 2D Mario we should've gotten.
This looks like the evolution of 2D Mario we should've gotten.
alphachino
Member
I'm all over it day 1
Gambit2483
Member
I wonder what substances they were on while making this game 
It looks absolutely insane..and I love it!
It looks absolutely insane..and I love it!
VN1X
Banned
Perhaps it's time for your annual check-up over at Specsavers?
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Mario's been doing that for years, where were you???
kondorBonk
Member
Love 2D Mario so of course I'll get this. It does still feel very dated compared to Donkey Kong Country.
The trailer doesn't seem to have any foreground elements and you'll notice the background also doesn't ever have assets that protrude into the middleground. It makes the screen looks like two separate layers with little to no inter connectivity at all times.
It makes such a world of difference in games like Tropical Freeze where different elements of the stage move by at a separate pace creating a much better feel of motion.
Also, side note. I think that voice flower is a direct response to Mario Maker. All the motion activated effects like fire works, applause, laughter, etc.. I think someone noticed how gratifying some of those placements can be.
The trailer doesn't seem to have any foreground elements and you'll notice the background also doesn't ever have assets that protrude into the middleground. It makes the screen looks like two separate layers with little to no inter connectivity at all times.
It makes such a world of difference in games like Tropical Freeze where different elements of the stage move by at a separate pace creating a much better feel of motion.
Also, side note. I think that voice flower is a direct response to Mario Maker. All the motion activated effects like fire works, applause, laughter, etc.. I think someone noticed how gratifying some of those placements can be.
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LRKD
Member
The talking flower seems like it serves no purpose except to annoy the player. Why Nintendo like that? The game as looks like it leans a little too heavy on the gimmicky side. Pretty much all the other games had minor annoyances too, like unskipable boring intro in mario bros u. Mario has no need for anything but gameplay.
But I'll play it regardless since it has multiplayer. the multiplayer Mario games are such a fun party game, sabotaging other players, stealing power ups, trying to kill each other randomly, makes the game far more fun and difficult. Single player mario ends up too easy and boring.
But I'll play it regardless since it has multiplayer. the multiplayer Mario games are such a fun party game, sabotaging other players, stealing power ups, trying to kill each other randomly, makes the game far more fun and difficult. Single player mario ends up too easy and boring.
Shadowplay1979
Member
No amount of inproved glasses is going to change this from anything other then high res regurgitated New super mario designs
Badlucktroll
Member
i enjoy its aesthetic. release when?
delfrickintree
Member
My theory is they just let AI do the remake.
Andyliini
Member
October.
crazyjah2003
Member
Do want... Hopefully they get as experimental as Galaxy... but Im not holding my breath.
Astral Dog
Member
Idk,for comparison the last Mario bros game was a launch title on Wii U, literally using last gen Wii assets
This is a late gen Switch game,i expected a nice jump in the visuals so chances are this game still runs at 60fps (maybe with some drops)
Pasta la Vista
Member
They just haven't got a single 2D Mario right since the SNES, embarrassing really.
Kabelly
Member
I think saying something looks like a mobile game is disingenious because we're at a point where mobile games can look very nice as well with the phone hardware we have now.
The reason I don't play mobile games is not because of the art style or hardware but because of their predatory mictrotransactions.
I'm buying this game day 1. Looks like it's full of charm and it will be fun to collect everything.
The reason I don't play mobile games is not because of the art style or hardware but because of their predatory mictrotransactions.
I'm buying this game day 1. Looks like it's full of charm and it will be fun to collect everything.
It really is. They've had 30+, years to top those games or at the very least match them and they keep failing and tripping (literally this time) over themselves.
Mobile games usually play it very safe and are very dull aesthetically, which this is. There are many different art style they could have gone with and they went with one of the most safe and boring. This isn't surprising as even their 3D games now all look the same.
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onnextflix5
Member
More Mario great, but it don’t look that much different from nsmb.
delfrickintree
Member
exactly, saying something looks mobile means that its streamlined, low power, lacking character. Modern mobile games be damned, they still shouldn't exist!
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
I know that back in the Wii U era, 2D Mario and 3D Mario were *completely* seperate teams, with the 2D Mario team being the "B" team. I don't see any reason why that would have changed.
Kabelly
Member
I guess I have a different view on this game because I see a game with lots of very expressive animations. Vibrant and diverse enviroments. The lighting is a lot better han how flat the New Games were. The powerups look interesing and fun. All the playable characters look great.. Plus all the levels we haven't seen. I'm very excited to see where it ends up in the endgame because endgame Mario is just pure platforming fun.
Saying it's lacking character is funny to me.
Saying it's lacking character is funny to me.
They should just give it to Retro Studios, they seem to understand what it takes to make a modern 2D platformer.
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ARK1391
Member
I can never tell from youtube videos/streams. But I can tell you they were definitely dropping some acid when they made this.
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
Retro is good but they're balls-deep in Metroid Prime 4 right now. I'm curious as to what the 3D Mario team has been working on after Bowser's Fury (which to me, was kinda mid).
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Looks great. Leave to Nintendo to still come up with a fresh idea in a 2D Mario game.
I'm pretty sure Retro has two teams, one working on Metroid Prime 4 and other working on the long rumoured new Donkey Kong game. I may be wrong, but some credible people have said numerous times that Donkey Kong sequel is in the works. If this is the case then I'd prefer that team to work on 2D Mario, but I think the bureaucracy at Nintendo would not allow for this.
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