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[Fredrik]

Nobody would know these figures without a DF video and few would care.
Ryse looked great in 900p. I’m sure this looks fine in 720p.

There is always the PC version for those who want higher fidelity and performance.

Or chill for a bit, wait for patches and play some Zelda TOTK, the game won’t go anywhere.

 

[Gaiff]

The article is dated march 1

Obviously was joking. 2000 yen is like $3 but no, you won't need a $2000 PC unless Japan PC parts prices are whack.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I’m sure they did, that doesn’t mean they went out there and said “Hey here’s Decima, make your game”

With Final Fantasy XV they made a huge deal of developing in house tech that would push visuals and the end result was what we saw.

Tech details don’t change what most people saw during the demo, which is great visuals. Apparently they have poor tech in many areas, and that’s worth saying, and the game doesn’t exactly look state of the art but it looks great anyway just like Starfield looks great despite the awful looking character models and animation.

i meant to take what developers says as gospel.

and equating the involvement of other companies as a guarantee of superb output.

 

[X-Wing]

Nobody would know these figures without a DF video and few would care.
Ryse looked great in 900p. I’m sure this looks fine in 720p.

There is always the PC version for those who want higher fidelity and performance.

Or chill for a bit, wait for patches and play some Zelda TOTK, the game won’t go anywhere.

Yep. It’s not really noticeable during gameplay. Except for the frame rate.

 

[sendit]

I wonder where all the "give me 60fps or your game is trash" people who were trashing Starfield went. The concessions made to get this game running at 60fps only a very small portion of the time is just not worth the cost at all.

The complaints for Starfield at 30 FPS is unwarranted. There is an option to play that game Day 1 at a higher performance. FF16 is a PS5 exclusive for the time being.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Fucking 720p in performance mode and in battles....Holy shit!

At least it seems to look cleaner than star wars?

Just think, this is a 2023 game and an exclusive on one console....there's no way they can fix this performance I don't think....where do they go...600p or something?

 

[oji-san]

I wonder where all the "give me 60fps or your game is trash" people who were trashing Starfield went. The concessions made to get this game running at 60fps only a very small portion of the time is just not worth the cost at all.

Does the game locked you out of 30fps fidelity mode? No. So what is the big deal? i liked the demo performance mode, and unless it way worse in the final game then i would love any game offer the option.

 

[FoxMcChief]

This.

People who favor framerate, usually don't care about extra ass fur.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

They said the same thing about Forbidden West. Yet, a lot of people were playing it in performance and enjoying it. The options are there, people should try it for themselves and decide. In some panels some things are more noticed than in others so it’s not as black or white as it is being made.

Not all performance modes are made the same unfortunately. If I remember correctly, HFW was not running at native 720p and reaching 30fps during intense encounters. If gameplay locks to 30fps during a boss battle in the performance mode, then there is literally no point at all to utilizing it.

 

[sendit]

extra ass fur.

calling VFXVeteran

 

[Mister Wolf]

The resolution is too low and the framerate is too unstable. Will wait for the port.

 

[FoxMcChief]

That's what John recommended as well. Just start the game IN quality mode and don't look back lol.

If you switch from Performance to Quality, you'll feel the shift. Just don't be tempted by Performance in the first place and you'll have a good time

I’d prefer a dev just make a creative decision and left the bad choice out.

 

[Crispy Gamer]

I'll play it but if the drops are too awful in performance I'll just wait for the pro and play it at a locked 60. I have to take way too many breaks playing at 30 I wanted to leave those days behind with this generation

 

[nikos]

You can play the demo to get an idea of how to looks/performs.

I played it. Wasn't great but also wasn't horrible as far as performance/visuals go.

There is only so much u can put into 500$ machine that launched in nov 2020, pc tech already progressed far beyond that, especially that we dont have console factor limit and instead of 220W tpd like on console, our topend pc can easily pull 600W and still stay quiet and cool, really hard to cheat physics

Yeah, I only have consoles for exclusives. Sucks having to choose between one mode and another, especially when neither are particularly good, but that's the way things have gone.

 

[killatopak]

I’d prefer a dev just make a creative decision and left the bad choice out.

I wouldn't use the word bad. Preference is what it is. Personally don't mind 30fps but I recognize people who would gladly sacrifice fidelity for frame rate.

 

[sendit]

I’d prefer a dev just make a creative decision and left the bad choice out.

Sir, that wouldn't be a creative decision. That's called a dictatorship.

 

[GHG]

I'm sure it's pleasant experience with all the tearing.

But you know. It doesn't matter that it does not work properly. All that matters is that it is there.

I'm sure that Starfield at 720p FSR 1 and without achieving 60fps would be a highly appreciated option by many....

No we don't want any option other than 30fps.

No we don't pro consoles, that would be terrible.

 

[Del_X]

Performance mode looks genuinely awful. I’ll wait for the PC release

 

[Low Moral Fibre]

When your performance mode is described as "Just a screen full of noisy artifacts and blur that looks terrible" it's not the review you were looking for.

I bought it anyway as the 30fps mode looks ok and some of the later stuff in the game looks really impressive - I'll blast through the story and do it again on PC if I have a good time.

 

[Fredrik]

Yep. It’s not really noticeable during gameplay. Except for the frame rate.

Soon that won’t be much of a problem either when more get VRR TVs. On PC using gsync I wouldn’t have a clue what framerate a game runs at without looking at a fps counter or ingame benchmark stats.

I’m still stuck with a non-VRR thing though. I think I’ll try waiting for the PC version.

 

[DenchDeckard]

That performance mode shouldn't even be in the game. Embarrassing.

 

[sendit]

The real crime with performance mode is SquareEnix's decision to use FSR1 over FSR2. Playstation 5 fully supports the two options.

 

[Gaiff]

No we don't want any option other than 30fps.

Always found it suspicious how good Sean Michaels seems to be at this. He even massages the balls lol

 

[Crispy Gamer]

This just confirms my suspicion that the performance mode in Horizon Forbidden West is witchcraft and not much else.

That engine is God's gift to playstation can't believe that game can push up to 90 fps in gameplay crazy stuff

 

[FoxMcChief]

The real crime with performance mode is SquareEnix's decision to use FSR1 over FSR2. Playstation 5 fully supports the two options.

So the team didn’t have updated tools?

 

[Darsxx82]

No we don't want any option other than 30fps.

I want more options... if these are good options.

No we don't pro consoles, that would be terrible.

?? I always defend the need Of "Pro" consoles.

PS: Your answers only serve to describe yourself and your double standard and your ability to prejudge

 

[vpance]

They must be running some wasteful RT effects, right? 720p is nuts.

 

[Mister Wolf]

The real crime with performance mode is SquareEnix's decision to use FSR1 over FSR2. Playstation 5 fully supports the two options.

With such a low resolution and unstable framerate they probably didnt have enough overhead to use FSR2.

 

[itsjustJEFF]

Not sure what's going on but the demo performance mode doesn't look like 720p to my eyes... it looks sharp and nice, not saying DF are wrong but it doesn't looks bad at least the demo isn't.

I haven't played the demo and it might turn out to look sharpe to my eyes as well... but it's DF. Especially for a tech breakdown, have to be critical. Something a "normal" gamer might not ever notice, they do, it's their job after all.

 

[Sleepwalker]

Quality mode all the way. Not waiting a year to play this

 

[Neo_game]

I’d prefer a dev just make a creative decision and left the bad choice out.

lol performance mode is an option. What is wrong in having options ?

They made a compromise to runs at 60fps mode and exploration it runs higher with variable fps. Ideally they should have 40fps in 120hz mode.

 

[Sleepwalker]

I’d prefer a dev just make a creative decision and left the bad choice out.

Only to cry for a next gen patch when the next console/pro version is out.

Keep preaching "the script"

 

[oji-san]

I haven't played the demo and it might turn out to look sharpe to my eyes as well... but it's DF. Especially for a tech breakdown, have to be critical. Something a "normal" gamer might not ever notice, they do, it's their job after all.

And that's fine, didn't say otherwise. but this tech looks better then 720p-1080p for sure, and i would never thought it's the resolution when i played the demo, glad there's an option.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Only to cry for a next gen patch when the next console/pro version is out.

Keep preaching "the script"

I’d expect more from a next gen console, so a B/C update would be welcomed. Then I’d be ok with Starfield 2 being 30fps on that console.

 

[Klosshufvud]

This is disappointing. I fear by the time a good patch/PC port arrives, I will have already been spoiled most of the story

 

[Roman Empire]

Can't ask much of a U$500 machine. For what it is, it delivers. If anything else, there's a PC version coming in the future and I'm super curious about what the minimum and recommended specs will be.

 

[Stuart360]

I thought there would be more outrage over these results, especially after some of the threads we have had on here lately.

Anyway hopefully the PC version ends up in a good state.

 

[Gaiff]

I thought there would be more outrage over these results, especially after some of the threads we have had on here lately.

Anyway hopefully the PC version ends up in a good state.

It seems people just want the option regardless of how good it is. They will be the judge whether they like it or not. I personally think it's preferable. Adding a 60fps option doesn't remove the 30fps option so why not just have both?

 

[XesqueVara]

Cross-Gen period is over and people are surprised that games are barely holding at 60 FPS, lol.

 

[pasterpl]

And just like that lots of people are okay 30fps, interesting indeed.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

I thought there would be more outrage over these results, especially after some of the threads we have had on here lately.

Anyway hopefully the PC version ends up in a good state.

We all know it would have been a bloodbath here on GAF if Todd Howard announced a performance mode for Starfield that ran at native 720p and dipped to 30fps when more than 2 enemies appeared on the screen. Some games just get a pass. We all know why.

 

[proandrad]

Sucks to have another poor performance mode. Guess I’ll go with quality mode and turn on motion pro.

 

[adamsapple]

Are you guys expecting them to add a 40hz mode with higher resolution? The 30 FPS mode also has one off drops here and there as per the video, so it's not like they have a 100% lock on it (like the Spider Man games for example).

 

[nikos]

We all know it would have been a bloodbath here on GAF if Todd Howard announced a performance mode for Starfield that ran at native 720p and dipped to 30fps when more than 2 enemies appeared on the screen. Some games just get a pass. We all know why.

This game locks at 60 during combat in Performance mode though, so that's not a fair comparison. Both are ass on console either way.

 

[Salty Popsicle]

And just like that lots of people are okay 30fps, interesting indeed.

Not only are they ok with it, but the narrative now is also that all devs should enable a "performance" mode option, even if it means frequent dips to the 30s and screen tearing galore without mentioning native resolutions we haven't seen since the PS2 and Xbox era.

 

[Luipadre]

Not watching it because of spoilers but i'll stick with quality mode

 

[nikos]

Sucks to have another poor performance mode. Guess I’ll go with quality mode and turn on motion pro.

I can feel the input latency from here.

 

[TheKremlinBossMan]

And just like that lots of people are okay 30fps, interesting indeed.

Read my comments in the Starfield thread. I have a very good pc and every console outside of Series X. Am still getting Starfield day1 on PC. I don't give a flying fuck about FPS unless it is in a competitive game. FPS shooter, Fighting game or some twitch reflex game. Is 60fps better than 30? absolutely. Does it make games unplayable? absolutely not.

 

[Fbh]

A 40fps mode would at least be nice.
Either way the performance mode is disappointing. I'm not really seeing a big enough graphical evolution from last gen for games like this and Jedi Survivor to run this poorly

 

[adamsapple]

Sucks to have another poor performance mode. Guess I’ll go with quality mode and turn on motion pro.