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What studio MS is closing next, share your predictions
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Bethesda Game Studios
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I'm with you that Microsoft should do this because we'll be lucky to see FO5 before 2035, but this is Microsoft we're talking about.
If Obsidian becomes a money sink and isn't pulling in the numbers then they'll closed down.
Giving Bethesda more resources to push out FO5 in a quicker time frame is more believable than handing Obsidian carte blanche with the Fallout IP.
mayham2199
Member
I agree no way they get closed down. They will want to try and get some form of Fallout game ready for next season of the show. If that means remaking 3 or NV that's what they'll do.
Punished Miku
Member
Well tons of people wanted them to go 3rd party and only do AAA stuff. Here it is. New IP are going to get even more rare, since most people can't hardly be bothered with it anyway.This is a really depressing thread
Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
I feel like people mentioning Obsidian are forgetting that The Outer Worlds performed very well as a new AA IP, and the sequel has been underway for quite some time. So even if Avowed doesn't meet Microsoft's expectations (whatever those may be), they're still safe until they ship The Outer Worlds 2.
CherryFalls
Member
Hopefully remedy and insomniac, and I’ll be celebrating both closures
Topher
Gold Member
Dr_Ifto
Member
The people at Obsidian made the original 2 games. Yes I know what you are talking about, but they know fallout as much as if not more than Bethesda.
Doesnt it already have a GaaS version?
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
That said these reaction threads are kinda dumb... (no offense to OP).
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SirTerry-T
Member
If Double Fine get the bullet, I'm rounding up the posse, pitchforks, strong words, the works...
SEGAvangelist
Member
I said in the other thread. It's Undead Labs. They're screwed.
For Sony, I'd add Housemarque.
Nintendo, Retro.
For Sony, I'd add Housemarque.
Nintendo, Retro.
Topher
Gold Member
The original 2 Fallout games were made by Interplay. Bethesday later acquired Fallout.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Remedy blows now. So sad.
Yeah, he's confusing the old Interplay teams with Black Isle (which led to the creation of Obsidian).
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Dick Jones
Gold Member
While Todd Howard is there, Obsidian won't be allowed to upstage him with his company's IP.
I'd feel sorry if it's Ninja Theory. 343 needs shooting first
eerik9000
Member
Ninja Theory used to do a lot of outsource work for other studios before they were acquired. Microsoft might be able to turn them into a COD support studio, rather than just shut down.
Dr_Ifto
Member
The devs who made the first 2 fallout games founded Obsidian.
Sneakysnake
Banned
Probably another studio that was operating at a deficit rather than a profit? I know you guys hate math, but I think we can just keep following the money here.
I think closing Tango was a bad idea (the other ones make sense) but it seems MS is just going hardline on the money now. Guess that is what happens after a $70 billion dollar acquisition. Daddy MS took over and Phil is just along for the ride. A bad thing for creativity, art, and the health of gaming but hey, at least MS gets to make more money for their investors.
I think closing Tango was a bad idea (the other ones make sense) but it seems MS is just going hardline on the money now. Guess that is what happens after a $70 billion dollar acquisition. Daddy MS took over and Phil is just along for the ride. A bad thing for creativity, art, and the health of gaming but hey, at least MS gets to make more money for their investors.
Punished Miku
Member
Yeah, I don't really see them getting closed at all. They can make AAA games. That's what they want. They're also close to Rare and could help finish whatever the fuck Everwild is. Who knows.
Topher
Gold Member
Ah.....if that is what you meant by "the people at Obsidian" then that makes sense. Obsidian itself wasn't founded until after Fallout 2 was made.
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SEGAvangelist
Member
Gotta say it feels like people here are willing Ninja Theory to close or something. We'll see how Hellblade 2 does, but I'm pretty sure the budget for it wasn't ridiculous. If anything, I could see Xbox funding the studio more to go bigger with a different MS IP or something like that.
The Initiative was just a total waste of time and if their game is still in development hell after so many years they would be even justified.
Ninja Theory well...Tameem Antoniades left....suspicious just before a project release, they wasted years of resources to make a 6h UE5 graphical demo with little gameplay and black bars included ala The Order....what can go wrong?
Ninja Theory well...Tameem Antoniades left....suspicious just before a project release, they wasted years of resources to make a 6h UE5 graphical demo with little gameplay and black bars included ala The Order....what can go wrong?
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Punished Miku
Member
Seriously feels that way. People can still ... you know, play Hellblade 2 if they want to support them. Pretty sure it'll be available on everything.
Topher
Gold Member
Hate math? I'd love to do the math, but we don't have any numbers to do math with.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Fargo was behind Fallout. The Obsidian guys were from Black Isle. I'm not sure how many at Black Isle were splintered from the Fallout team, though.
Topher
Gold Member
I'm just reacting to someone hoping studios close because they don't like the games. That's stupid.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Agreed, but Remedy is worthless to me at this point. Sad, because at one time Remedy and Insomniac were my top 2 developers. Now I couldn't care less what they make next.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
That's gotta be my favorite name for a studio.
semiconscious
Member
shit, so many fucking choices... gonna have to get back to you on this one...
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
From the perspective of Microsoft, this means fuck all.
Hey, I'd love Obsidian to be given a blank cheque to work on a new FO game, but it's not going to happen.
Topher
Gold Member
I've been that way towards Remedy for a time, but getting more and more the same with Sweet Baby Inc......err.....I mean Insomniac.
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
Remember…the Activision/Blizzard/King acquisition wasn’t about talent it was about existing IP that makes money NOW.
They will repackage that up, farm it out to more platforms, and profit from the legacy they purchased.
They could give zero care about new ip…it isn’t profitable and people don’t care, and they don’t have the talent to make meaningful inroads into an already shrinking AAA player base.
They will repackage that up, farm it out to more platforms, and profit from the legacy they purchased.
They could give zero care about new ip…it isn’t profitable and people don’t care, and they don’t have the talent to make meaningful inroads into an already shrinking AAA player base.
Topher
Gold Member
One would think Obsidian and Id would be in "sacred cow" territory and not be touched, but these days I'm not so sure. I would love to think that Microsoft would rather spin these developers off back on their own rather than just shut the doors, but I can just about guarantee Microsoft would keep all the IP. It would be like Bungie all over again.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Real question. What makes Ninja Theory so obvious for everyone right now?Undead Labs and Ninja Theory seem like obvious choices. If I was Uncle Phil, I'd be looking at Undead Labs like
Topher
Gold Member
The possibility that Hellblade 2 will be a commercial flop.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I'd rather Microsoft sells Obsidian and id Software than close them. That would be a very sad day for gaming if those two legendry studios were shut down.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
It should be 343i but it won’t be.
I wonder if Tango and Arkane were offered the deal Toys for Bobs was. Go be an independent dev but make a deal with us to publish a game, and they chose severance packages instead.
I wonder if Tango and Arkane were offered the deal Toys for Bobs was. Go be an independent dev but make a deal with us to publish a game, and they chose severance packages instead.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Even if it's a commercial flop, the studio has a lot to offer as a support studio and also for tech purposes. I just don't see them folding so easily, especially when it's pretty obvious that the budget wasn't massive for Hellblade 2. The whole point of developing both games was to create AAA products at indie prices.
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
Ninja Theory are fucked. MS is only realizing now that they need to market Hellblade 2. They posted this a few minutes ago, and this is their idea of marketing 
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Todd Howard won’t get much of a say. Microsoft owns him
ChuckeRearmed
Member
It is really hard to tell because the problem is that while I can explain Arkane and co. it is hard to explain Tango unless it really boils down to the same case as with Lionhead (when the leadership left).
For now it is hard to tell because we don't know the state of the studios and how close they are to the delivery. Without Tango closure, it would be much easier to predict.
Maybe the Initiative?
- Also it is hard to tell the state of Turn 10, but T10 and Coalition should be safe due to them being a part of technical division or something.
- Rare should be fine as SoT is doing good, though probably with Everwild they should stop traveling around and should start making a game or something.
- Obsidian has Grounded, Avowed and the upcoming the Outer Worlds so they have games close in the pipeline.
- Double Fine maybe? They have released anything aside Psychonauts 2.
- Compulsion probably depends on performance (they can fire that community manager though)
- Inxile should be fine for now (leadership is there, plus the game in a good state)
- PG should be fine
- Undead Labs probably should also be fine as state of decay 2 is doing good and SoD3 should do more than fine when released. The biggest question mark is in the what state SOD3 is right now.
- 343i I doubt because Halo still has some GaaS revenue and with the current head of 343 it has good potential.
For now it is hard to tell because we don't know the state of the studios and how close they are to the delivery. Without Tango closure, it would be much easier to predict.
Maybe the Initiative?
- Also it is hard to tell the state of Turn 10, but T10 and Coalition should be safe due to them being a part of technical division or something.
- Rare should be fine as SoT is doing good, though probably with Everwild they should stop traveling around and should start making a game or something.
- Obsidian has Grounded, Avowed and the upcoming the Outer Worlds so they have games close in the pipeline.
- Double Fine maybe? They have released anything aside Psychonauts 2.
- Compulsion probably depends on performance (they can fire that community manager though)
- Inxile should be fine for now (leadership is there, plus the game in a good state)
- PG should be fine
- Undead Labs probably should also be fine as state of decay 2 is doing good and SoD3 should do more than fine when released. The biggest question mark is in the what state SOD3 is right now.
- 343i I doubt because Halo still has some GaaS revenue and with the current head of 343 it has good potential.
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SEGAvangelist
Member
Ninja Theory are fucked. MS is only realizing now that they need to market Hellblade 2. They posted this a few minutes ago, and this is their idea of marketing
I doubt they're just realizing it now. They are clearly limiting financial risk with the game's release.
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