Ok...
Don't you hear, go play warhawk instead, SMH..
On topic,
I'm really happy about the on foot aiming changes and the new vehicles etc.
But I agree, the complete overhaul of the game's core mechanic seems unwise.
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Starhawk (Closed) Beta Testing thread of impressions and questions.
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Ok...
Don't you hear, go play warhawk instead, SMH..
On topic,
I'm really happy about the on foot aiming changes and the new vehicles etc.
But I agree, the complete overhaul of the game's core mechanic seems unwise.
Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
Beautiful looking game... not sure if it's just that video but the game looks a lot better than the previous videos and it looks awesome.
thetechkid
Member
I forgot about my code I got with Uncharted 3, I tried redeeming it just now but it doesn't work.
zerodayPopbot
Member
I think the Uncharted 3 code is for the open beta in January.
This looks really fucking cool. I liked Warhawk but got into it way too late. Definitely looking forward to this.
Just got the code, downloaded and played a few "matches" (hard to call them as such as people have no clue what they are supposed to be doing - no tutorial).
I'm quite disappointed for now. The GUI is very un-elegant (stuff like button prompts and hit markers are huge and fat - might be just me being playing BF3 too much these days) and the frame rate is lower than optimal (heavy motion blur kicks in all too often to cope with mixed results).
Having to wait for the camera to settle at the title screen before Start button press is registered is super annoying already. It's not pretty to look at either as it microstutters.
I know, it's a beta.
I'm quite disappointed for now. The GUI is very un-elegant (stuff like button prompts and hit markers are huge and fat - might be just me being playing BF3 too much these days) and the frame rate is lower than optimal (heavy motion blur kicks in all too often to cope with mixed results).
Having to wait for the camera to settle at the title screen before Start button press is registered is super annoying already. It's not pretty to look at either as it microstutters.
I know, it's a beta.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
My wife and I are both concerned that this will not pale in comparison to Warhawk. Warhawk was just perfect. I much prefer the artistic style of Warhawk to Starhawk as well. IMO there shouldn't have been any type of campaign for Starhawk as it truly is a multiplayer game. While I haven't played it yet and as you said its still a beta, the phrase if it ain't broke, don't fix it may ring true here.
Rabbitweed
Member
Sheeeeiiit. Forgot that I also received the code earlier today.... * runs to PS3 *
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Im friends with the developers, that is not the truth, lol.
Warhawk was one of the great happy accidents of the industry. Its entire development was a huge clusterfuck. Thankfully it turned out alright.
Im glad for a campaign, in Warhwak at least the difficulty curve was not helpful.
Played a bit more. Yeah not liking this at all. It's a clusterfuck of epic proportions which plays nothing like Warhawk. Looks like a game totally not suited with playing with randoms. The whole team must be on the same strategic page or it's a mess.
I've only played the mech once and got destroyed the second I landed near the enemy base.
Also incredibly annoying is the time it takes for button pressed to be registered when interacting with the environment or vehicles. I think it's a lag thing, probably due to the beta state, but man I can't count the times I mounted and soon dismounted a jeep as I was hammering Square. Same delay applies to weapons pick ups. You need to sit on them for like an eternity before you actually pick them up.
Also, spend a whole match trying to reach a spot near the enemy base with the idea of building a spawn point there. Got there eventually but all 32 buildings slots were already taken so I couldn't built shit. I had no other choice to go kamikaze into enemy base and respawn back to my base.
Gonna give this another few goes before I decide whether to care or not about it. For the time being, I can't wait to get back to BF3.
I've only played the mech once and got destroyed the second I landed near the enemy base.
Also incredibly annoying is the time it takes for button pressed to be registered when interacting with the environment or vehicles. I think it's a lag thing, probably due to the beta state, but man I can't count the times I mounted and soon dismounted a jeep as I was hammering Square. Same delay applies to weapons pick ups. You need to sit on them for like an eternity before you actually pick them up.
Also, spend a whole match trying to reach a spot near the enemy base with the idea of building a spawn point there. Got there eventually but all 32 buildings slots were already taken so I couldn't built shit. I had no other choice to go kamikaze into enemy base and respawn back to my base.
Gonna give this another few goes before I decide whether to care or not about it. For the time being, I can't wait to get back to BF3.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
I am well aware of the development issues with Warhawk and that there was suppose to be a campaign originally. Warhawk as a multiplayer game for many is the best experience this gen. Starhawk didn't need a campaign just as many single player games don't need multiplayer. There are many factors as to why so many are in love with Warhawk and it would be ashame to see the developers change these features in order to appeal to the masses.
user8503492
Banned
Just got my invite Email!
I expect it to suck tho...every good game has had a terrible sequel in MP terms this gen it seems. Developers dont know how to follow a proven formula and try new stupid shit and ruin great games.
Theres a SP now? I guess thats good, tho I will never play it. Dont think Ive ever played a SP campaign if the game offers a competitive MP.
I expect it to suck tho...every good game has had a terrible sequel in MP terms this gen it seems. Developers dont know how to follow a proven formula and try new stupid shit and ruin great games.
Theres a SP now? I guess thats good, tho I will never play it. Dont think Ive ever played a SP campaign if the game offers a competitive MP.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
I love how I tell you I know the people involved and you proceed to treat me like a person who doesnt know what hes talking about.
sigh
Just play a few matches and i instantly loved it. I'm not entirely sure what i'm doing yet but it's fun as hell with all the action going and and the RTS building on the fly element works really well as far as i can tell. I havn't actually been in a warhawk yet so i can't say anything about that. Also, the game looks really good imo. I like the art direction and the colours and the map in general looks really nice.
So far, so good.
So far, so good.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
What does you knowing the people who developed the game have anything to do with the fact that changing the very aspects of what made the game a fan favorite being disappointing? We get it, you know the folks who developed Warhawk. Congratulations bro. I'm very happy for you. Now, please educate us on what that has to do with the points brought up?
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Lets see: You know I work in the industry, you know I know these people and yet you presume I know nothing about the game, what it was intended to be or that what you know is all there is to it.
Warhawk was supposed to have SP because the developers wanted it in, not the masses. Now with Starhawk the have the chance to make the complete product they wanted to make, yet I say this and you bring up its what "the masses" want and not what the game needs.
A good, focused single player when done right makes the barrier of entry into multiplayer a whole lot easier. Ive played the beta a fair bit and I cant wait to get a decent intro to the game, because its much, much different.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Where did I infer what you do or do not know? I don't have any idea if you played it, for how long you played, nor how good you are at it. You're the one who continues to bring up that you know the developers. Thats great. I also couldn't care what developers desire when making a game. What I am concerned about is my enjoyment. Warhawk was the best experience this gen for myself and many others. To see Starhawk be changed in so many ways is disappointing to many. Why you can't understand nor accept that is whats puzzling.
The build and battle mechanics are slowly growing on me. It's actually satisfying when you go deeper into the battlefield, manage to build a spawn point there and see other people dropping by and start building fortifications. But still I have the feeling I'm spending more time building stuff than actually fighting. Games don't last forever and by the time you are done with building your fortifications the game is almost over. This is unless other people help you out and don't waste slots by building some crap.
Still, I'm not feeling the actual combat at all. Plus the frame rate still sucks at times.
Edit: Also, WTF @ game ending when host leaves? Seriously?!? No host migration implemented yet?
Still, I'm not feeling the actual combat at all. Plus the frame rate still sucks at times.
Edit: Also, WTF @ game ending when host leaves? Seriously?!? No host migration implemented yet?
notworksafe
Member
You're only one of the plebian masses, okay? Clearly as a paying customer your interest or opinion is irrelevant. If you knew my #1 pal Mr. Sony you'd understand that.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Pretty much how it comes across.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Because your sense of entitlement comes across as the complete opposite. You said what the game was supposed to be and I told you otherwise, that was basically it.
Either way, Starhawk is a different game and it should be different. If you think Warhawk is perfect then in your eyes, a sequel isn't even necessary ... so might as well change stuff up, no?
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
What are you freaking talking about entitlement? Breaking news bro but not everyone likes the same shit as you or the developers. I am not acting entitled for liking how Warhawk looks and how it was designed in comparison to Starhawk. It's called a preference and an opinion. Seriously man, so often you come across as pompous and extremely patronizing. I get it, you know more about the artistic side of gaming than many others. I get it, you are in the industry. It's hard for anybody not to know since you rarely find an opportunity when you don't let it be known. Congratulations. Stop acting like a dick all of the time.
Ok as more people and myself get used to the build and battle dynamics and learn how to play the game the fun definitely begins.
I have still to capture a damn flag and to make some useful use of a hawk, but building stuff around the map and defending it is quite fun. Still sucks when you want to build moar and you cant due to all the slots being taken. People need to learn to dismantle unneeded stuff so the team can push the fortifications forward. That's usually what I do right at the beginning. Build a jetpack dispenser. Get jetpack (and let other people do the same if around), reclaim jetpack dispenser, destroy energy canisters so to collect more energy, fly somewhere else and spend that energy for a forward spawn point. From there I usually build a bunker and start destroying enemy fortifications with rockets from afar.
Lag is getting better. Seems faster to collect stuff/interact with panels and stuff. Still nowhere near optimal but it's bearable.
I have still to capture a damn flag and to make some useful use of a hawk, but building stuff around the map and defending it is quite fun. Still sucks when you want to build moar and you cant due to all the slots being taken. People need to learn to dismantle unneeded stuff so the team can push the fortifications forward. That's usually what I do right at the beginning. Build a jetpack dispenser. Get jetpack (and let other people do the same if around), reclaim jetpack dispenser, destroy energy canisters so to collect more energy, fly somewhere else and spend that energy for a forward spawn point. From there I usually build a bunker and start destroying enemy fortifications with rockets from afar.
Lag is getting better. Seems faster to collect stuff/interact with panels and stuff. Still nowhere near optimal but it's bearable.
He's allowed having an opinion and just because you know some developers doesn't make you right about everything. And you didn't just tell him otherwise and that was it, you kept going as if he offended you for having his own opinion when he wasn't implying you knew nothing or anything like that. It's possible to have different opinions you know...
I don't see anything he said that comes across as entitled which is ironic since you kind of do by playing this "I know the developers so I'm right" card. I wasn't going to chime in but it was getting a little old because anyone on here IS entitled to their opinion whether you like it or not.
Anyway, I hope I don't have to wait til' January to try this out because the strategy focus intrigues me as a lot of players these days don't play as a team and rather go for kills, so it's going to be interesting to see how the players build the base and communicate or if they just do their own thing and waste points and space. Warhawk had a lot of great people that played together but who knows if it'll be that easy in the beginning or if we'll have to wait for the bad players to move on to other games leaving Starhawk with a nice, hardcore community that plays to win. It always amazed me when a bunch of random people would talk to each other and get together in a jeep to make a run for the flag while others covered us from above. One of those rare feelings you don't get in games that often anymore...
Warhawk was a gem and I have faith that this will be too.
Got my code today (woohoo!) so will post impressions soon.
I'm interested to try this sucker. Whilst I enjoyed WH's flight it's up to the devs if they wanna change it up. Yep, that'll disappoint some folk (although I'd hope they try it before "condemning" it), and I guess translate to lost sales. But in LightBox I trust (they got it so right with WH). Maybe a few more games into their lifespan LightBox will be, I dunno, different in how they handle stuff like this.
But I do totally accept why a dev would... maybe ignore isn't the right word... but why they couldn't be led by a small hardcore element (not that I'm saying that's happened here).
Anyway, for those who aren't keen on the new flight modes... would a continuation of DLCs have sated you??
Looking forward to hearing them. Be sure you play for a good couple of hours tho as it's really confusing at the beginning. At least with me it didn't click rightaway.
I hear that...
Think there's some server update/maintenance going on at the moment so will dive in later this evening for some CTF.
Servers are back up now.
bender
What time is it?
I don't believe the beta codes from U3 are active yet.
Thanks, I was gonna give away the email code and use the U3 one. Guess I'll just use it, Time to download.
Yes
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
For those of you who received the beta code via email, is it your PSN email?
I managed to play some this afternoon after receiving my code, and it felt good. Real good. Aiming, flying, BnB, everything really clicked for me immediately and I was having a blast. It does feel quite different from Warhawk, perhaps not as fast, but it's a good different, in my opinion. Flying felt natural and the jeeps overall drove better than Warhawk. Im really happy with it. My god, I can't wait until it drops.
That video looks cool, I love these large scale online games. Played a bit of Warhawk and it was good but flawed. Conceptually this seems way more team-based and involved.
Maybe it's just the guy playing but the on foot controls look sort of imprecise and the camera swing looks really stiff/slow, takes him forever to turn a 180, hope they get that fixed.
Maybe it's just the guy playing but the on foot controls look sort of imprecise and the camera swing looks really stiff/slow, takes him forever to turn a 180, hope they get that fixed.
The sound design in this seems bad.
From an initial 20 minute play:
Whilst I didn't mind the aim assist in WH this feels better.
Love the gfx and design aesthetic in the one map I've seen (I'm assuming there's only one?).
Takes ages to load!
Map feels very small (yep, it's a beta).
Gosh, took some time to realise I could build things. Will have to look at this further. So far I've only built a turret!
A lot of the players were clearly just experimenting so I missed the awesome team ethic from WH. I'm sure it'll come though.
Can't wait to play some more. It's instantly grabbed me. I'll caveat that by admitting WH is my favourite game of all time.
Whilst I didn't mind the aim assist in WH this feels better.
Love the gfx and design aesthetic in the one map I've seen (I'm assuming there's only one?).
Takes ages to load!
Map feels very small (yep, it's a beta).
Gosh, took some time to realise I could build things. Will have to look at this further. So far I've only built a turret!
A lot of the players were clearly just experimenting so I missed the awesome team ethic from WH. I'm sure it'll come though.
Can't wait to play some more. It's instantly grabbed me. I'll caveat that by admitting WH is my favourite game of all time.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Oh snap invited into the beta 
DLing it while at school
DLing it while at school
just played for a bit more than an hour last night, so I'm going to play more and give it a chance, but it definitely, didn't hook me in from the start like WH did :/
seems a bit slow paced, and that, coupled with the fact that rounds are now 15 instead of 30 minutes....well, very little gets done, usually.
so far I HATE teams who just put 30 turrets at the flag, and the flying/missle dodging is disappointing
seems a bit slow paced, and that, coupled with the fact that rounds are now 15 instead of 30 minutes....well, very little gets done, usually.
so far I HATE teams who just put 30 turrets at the flag, and the flying/missle dodging is disappointing
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Wait, what? 15 minutes? Surely this is just beta right? SURELY they'll offer custom games the option of game length.
TrAcEr_x90
Member
when do the uncharted 3 codes go into affect?
ProfessorMoran
Member
How is the party system implemented?
They mentioned on twitter it won't be outrageous like WH's. Much more achievable.