AndrewDean84xX
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In all seriousness, I always forget about NPDs until I see the thread. lol
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November 2011 NPD results delayed one day
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Without knowing your join date, I can tell you that NPD used to be bigger. The new format messed things up and that has sort of taken a lot of the initial buzz out of it. Although holiday sales are always fun.
TetraxShards
Member
Do not want.
My popcorn's getting all cold and eaten.
My popcorn's getting all cold and eaten.
sixteen-bit
Member
That's disappointing.
The format change to combine SKUs is somewhat annoying, too. That started with Halo 3 in Sept-2007. Or were you just referring to the lack of numbers?
Huevos de Oro
Member
Bad timing, NPD! Very bad timing. Leaving town tomorrow morning so I'll have to jump through hoops to make it in time for tomorrow's shenanigans.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
I'm not a fan of grouping up all skus for a game. I think it's much funnier not seeing more titles in the top 10.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
well actually 22 hours and 30 minutes later but sure
06nbarnhill
Member
Damnit. Ruins my day.
....on that thought why the hell am I still on the inferior gaming side of these forums?
....on that thought why the hell am I still on the inferior gaming side of these forums?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Both,yes. Long time users know and I knew you know
CrankyKong
Member
I just wanna know the 3DS numbers
Fantastical
Death Prophet
This actually upset me. I was expecting to come home to some meltdowns.
I was expecting to come home to some meltdowns.Yeah since they changed the format I lost intrest in NPD sales threads.
But I can't wait for the 3DS sales.
Thanks. We'll see how much my work is really reduced. I may end up writing more total because the work is distributed across weeks (instead of a weekend) and it won't be thematically tied to one thing (i.e. NPD).
jamesinclair
Banned
After the markets close on friday eh?
Someone is unhappy with the numbers.
Someone is unhappy with the numbers.
Kenshin001
Member
Fixed.
butter_stick
Banned
Sony probably ended up in last again. Either that or Nintendo's not satisfied with 720k for 3DS, but that's really unlikely. We know Microsoft is okay.
I just bought their toilet console last week!
jamesinclair
Banned
How dare you accuse the company that has pulled strings to make sure we havent seen a PSP number in years of meddling with the totally independent NPD.
Joking aside, we have no reason to believe Sony had anything to do with NPD releasing less and less information over time. For all we know NPD figured if all the information is available to everybody, people (investors) are not going to pay for it.
I do not put too much stock in the claim that "vendors asked us not to publish their data". This is not internal data from MS or Sony and therefore they have zero say in whether this can be published or not.
jamesinclair
Banned
The problem is, whenever a company has a very bad month, numbers are delayed or omitted.
We even saw this with 3DS numbers that were bundled with the DS earlier this year when sales dropped off.
And when the DS launched, same thing, we got "Nintendo portable" sales...but once the DS picked up again, GBA and DS were split again.
However, Sony has been most prominent with this, and missing PSP and occasional missing PS3 numbers.
Anasui Kishibe
Banned
3DS sold that number? Wowza
At least, should be more.
The investors get the data anyway. As for customers, I am not sure if this is going to affect their buying decisions in a meaningful way. Yes, there is corporate pride. But as I said that's not NPD's problem.
It does make sense to release bad news after the market is closed or even on Friday in order to dampen knee-jerk reaction from the investors. But then we are talking about the timing of the data released to investors and not the amount of data released to the public.
I have seen the NPD statements tainted with bias (sugar coating Sony’s bad numbers and trying to find a silver lining for them even when there was none). But I like to believe that’s my own personal impression and it is –me- reading too much between the lines or NPD (not unlike Pachter and other analysts) being embarrassed about their (or analysts') incorrect early predictions on how Sony is going to dominate gaming market this generation.
They said that 3DS outsold the DS's first full year as of the end of November, so 720k is the minimum.
That never happened. Several people here assumed that "DS family" included 3DS, but that was later proven wrong.
Anasui Kishibe
Banned
man, now i'm joining the rage brigade for no NPD data
Realistically, unless Sony is responsible for, say, 20% of all NPD subscriptions and threatened to unsubscribe, I don't think their willingness to share or omit numbers would be of any relevance to NPD at all, at least not for all the other numbers by all the other companies.
There's also the chance Sony did want to hide their own figures and NPD decided to take the opportunity and hide everyone else's too.
specialguy
Banned
Well, this doesn't take a rocket scientist. Microsoft and Nintendo both publicly release their sales figures for every console, every NPD day. Sony does not (we always work out the PS3 number from the share percent MS gives+the Wii # Nintendo gives).
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM WHOEVER COULD HAVE MADE NPD STOP THE NUMBERS
Nintendo has hidden the 3DS number a couple of times. They didn't even give PR one month this year, IIRC.
walking fiend
Member
How many hours and minutes till the result comes out? Is there a particular time, or it's just up to Evilore?