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The Last of Us (Naughty Dog): Hold One Second

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Derrick01

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Meier said:
Enslaved sold like shit. I refuse to believe even half the people on here talking garbage about it even played the damn thing.

There is no way someone could have played it for any length of time and not found many positive things to say about it. Great combat, incredible animation, awesome performance by Andy Serkis. This is absurd.
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I played it and liked it, decent game. I still think NT gets the extreme hate that it does because they were picked by Capcom to make DmC. By no means are they an amazing developer but they're not the pile of garbage people make them out to be.

The news of the designer working on this game really does nothing to me. I don't love it or hate it, let's see how this particular game works out.
 
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Fine Ham Abounds

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Meier said:
Enslaved sold like shit. I refuse to believe even half the people on here talking garbage about it even played the damn thing.

There is no way someone could have played it for any length of time and not found many positive things to say about it. Great combat, incredible animation, awesome performance by Andy Serkis. This is absurd.
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The environments were fantastic. That's all I got, sorry. I certainly don't agree with the 3 you listed, though I like Serkis.
 
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Hyuga

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Derrick01 said:
I played it and liked it, decent game. I still think NT gets the extreme hate that it does because they were picked by Capcom to make DmC. By no means are they an amazing developer but they're not the pile of garbage people make them out to be.

The news of the designer working on this game really does nothing to me. I don't love it or hate it, let's see how this particular game works out.
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Nah, I think the main problem is: They made two big games and had all the money&tech in the world. The result? Two average games (average, at best).
They really aren't that good :-/

Back on topic, please :)
 
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Lord Error

Insane For Sony
The things in the game will most likely be called mutants, because that's what they realistically are. They mutated into that due to some disease. Now whether they'll be mindless zerg-rush creatures which in opinion of some classifies them as a zombie type enemy, is another thing.

Even if they are rush/mindless when they look like that, the fact that they have to mutate into that thing, which probably can't happen overnight, should leave lots of room for in-between stages, where their mind still somewhat works and their head still somewhat resembles human.
 
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SamuraiX-

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I really do hope we get some more info this week. That's all I really want. If ND wants to hold back on gameplay for now, I'm cool. Give me some stuff on the story, premise, characters, etc. :D
 
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ZeroRay

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Arkham said:
Well, there's Metal Gear Acid, now we have Uncharted Shrooms.

I always new Naughty Dog was full of really fun-guys.
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Nice pun lol.

SamuraiX- said:
I really do hope we get some more info this week. That's all I really want. If ND wants to hold back on gameplay for now, I'm cool. Give me some stuff on the story, premise, characters, etc. :D
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We actually saw UC3 footage a week after the VGA reveal. I think the next time we get any info, it'll be through a mag exclusive this time, (the press stuff today will be embargoed).
 
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REV 09

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Raoh said:
If people can get excited over another plain old COD and Gears they can get excited over a new Naughty Dog Game.

At least ND actually makes advances in their games.
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putting Gears beside CoD is just wrong. UC had quicker sequels than Gears did. Also, most would say that UC3 isn't an advancement over UC2 (other than visuals). THe thread is 70pages, how much more excitement does the game need?

On topic, The Last of Us looks interesting; hopefully we get some news today.
 
Evolved1

Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
SamuraiX- said:
I really do hope we get some more info this week. That's all I really want. If ND wants to hold back on gameplay for now, I'm cool. Give me some stuff on the story, premise, characters, etc. :D
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Basics would be nice... like is it TPV or FPV"? Is it survival action or survival horror? Who is the protagonist, one or both? Is it releasing next year?

REV 09 said:
putting Gears beside CoD is just wrong. UC had quicker sequels than Gears did. Also, most would say that UC3 isn't an advancement over UC2 (other than visuals). THe thread is 70pages, how much more excitement does the game need?

On topic, The Last of Us looks interesting; hopefully we get some news today.
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For whatever reason, when you said this I was compelled to check the post count. Now I am ashamed. :(

Callibretto said:
I haven't played a lot of zombie games, but the ones I've played (Left 4 Dead, Dead Rising, Dead Nation)all treat zombies as fodder and you killed a shit tons of them and they just don't give the sense of horror or feeling helpless at all.

so I hope Last of Us can actually deliver those horror feeling that just 3 of those creature will actually scare me. if that's what they're aiming for, then this game is nowhere being generic, it will actually stand out among other zombie games.
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Have you ever considered how to do this? Without it forcing the game to be stealth focused and intentionally frustrating? I love the concept, but realize it's a pretty tall order, without much precedent. There's a reason all those games have zombie fodder... it's because it's really damn hard to do anything else.
 
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Callibretto

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I haven't played a lot of zombie games, but the ones I've played (Left 4 Dead, Dead Rising, Dead Nation)all treat zombies as fodder and you killed a shit tons of them and they just don't give the sense of horror or feeling helpless at all.

so I hope Last of Us can actually deliver those horror feeling that just 3 of those creature will actually scare me. if that's what they're aiming for, then this game is nowhere being generic, it will actually stand out among other zombie games.
 
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pvpness

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Meh. Trailer looked decent enough for a PS3 game. I'll be bothered to be interested when we get some actual gameplay information. Gotta love the rush to hate though. Jeez.
 
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Sickboy007

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Evolved1 said:
Basics would be nice... like is it TPV or FPV"? Is it survival action or survival horror? Who is the protagonist, one or both? Is it releasing next year?
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I don't think it's a first person game, they rarely get called "action" in pr-speak. On the other hand, this started development as a Move game...so who knows!
 
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MercuryLS

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Callibretto said:
I haven't played a lot of zombie games, but the ones I've played (Left 4 Dead, Dead Rising, Dead Nation)all treat zombies as fodder and you killed a shit tons of them and they just don't give the sense of horror or feeling helpless at all.

so I hope Last of Us can actually deliver those horror feeling that just 3 of those creature will actually scare me. if that's what they're aiming for, then this game is nowhere being generic, it will actually stand out among other zombie games.
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It looks like thats what they're going for.
 
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Meier

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So after going back to that thread, I guess everyone complaining about Enslaved played the PS3 version? I guess that's what happens when you play a multi platform game on the system. I mean come on, when is that not the case? I had essentially no frame rate issues at all in the 360.
 
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Callibretto

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Sickboy007 said:
I don't think it's a first person game, they rarely get called "action" in pr-speak. On the other hand, this started development as a Move game...so who knows!
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where do you hear this start as move game? you're not mistaken tis as Until Dawn are you? or Datura?

they're completely different
 
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delta25

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Meier said:
I had essentially no frame rate issues at all in the 360.
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agreed, it had its moments but it was never anything substantial or even worth mentioning.

The game is great, sure its nothing incredible but its no where near what some have made it out to be.
 
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Meier

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Hyuga said:
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I read his post and disagree with it but that's irrelevant. Someone can make a laundry list of things they don't like about every game in existence.

The fact remains that the vast majority of the complaints were by people talking about frame rate and graphical issues and that is something exclusive to the PS3 version. Anyone playing a multi platform game on the PS3 knows what to expect after 6 years.

I guarantee most people who are talking shit about it never played it or at worse, played the inferior version and that's on them. This guy is a designer, not a programmer.
 
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Raistlin

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Glueball said:
I'm pretty sure the character is modeled on the VA who portrays her, just made younger.

See here:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2798492160/nm0424534


EDIT: Left pic is from 2004
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Thank you.

When I first started reading the Ellen Page stuff I was dying to post this to stop the insanity. Unfortunately I was finishing up a ban so we had to suffer through a few dozen pages of it :p
 
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Lord Error

Insane For Sony
Meier said:
So after going back to that thread, I guess everyone complaining about Enslaved played the PS3 version? I guess that's what happens when you play a multi platform game on the system. I mean come on, when is that not the case? I had essentially no frame rate issues at all in the 360.
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Yeah, that's it - try to fight what you perceive as ignorance with even more ignorance.
 
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Raoh

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REV 09 said:
putting Gears beside CoD is just wrong. UC had quicker sequels than Gears did. Also, most would say that UC3 isn't an advancement over UC2 (other than visuals). THe thread is 70pages, how much more excitement does the game need?

On topic, The Last of Us looks interesting; hopefully we get some news today.
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I didn't mean to put gears and cod in the same level, just trying to compare fans. Fans of CoD see no real improvements, graphic for graphic, CoD is not in the same level of Gears/UC, and Gears is for the sake of comparing zombies, just more aliens again.

I don't care for gears/cod, but I respect them enough to not shit on them or their fans.

Bungie hasn't made a game for me that I like, nothing about Bungie for me to be excited about, but I wont hate on them if their next game is in space or about aliens and killing them. And who knows, their next alien game maybe great and just up my alley, I wont' know until it is out. Someone will be happy early on about a bungie game, I'll let them be happy and go about my business, as others should let Naughty Dog/Zombie fans be happy.

I just think ND should be left to do as they do and we can judge their final product. I come here for the info and the fun not the hate, I got to other sites for hate.

The best part of the trailer is that Sony is learning,. They did not attach a release date to the trailer. Probably the smartest thing they have done recently, Sony and their first party devs get slack for changing or not meeting release dates.
 
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badcrumble

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Meier said:
I read his post and disagree with it but that's irrelevant. Someone can make a laundry list of things they don't like about every game in existence.

The fact remains that the vast majority of the complaints were by people talking about frame rate and graphical issues and that is something exclusive to the PS3 version. Anyone playing a multi platform game on the PS3 knows what to expect after 6 years.

I guarantee most people who are talking shit about it never played it or at worse, played the inferior version and that's on them. This guy is a designer, not a programmer.
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the combat in Enslaved is OBJECTIVELY shitty, sorry. it's not even a matter of opinion.
 
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sleepykyo

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Meier said:
I read his post and disagree with it but that's irrelevant. Someone can make a laundry list of things they don't like about every game in existence.

The fact remains that the vast majority of the complaints were by people talking about frame rate and graphical issues and that is something exclusive to the PS3 version. Anyone playing a multi platform game on the PS3 knows what to expect after 6 years.

I guarantee most people who are talking shit about it never played it or at worse, played the inferior version and that's on them. This guy is a designer, not a programmer.
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Guilty as charged. Demo for the PS3 version turned me off. Did they completely overhaul the combat system and the platforming? Because the former was extremely shallow and the latter was make Uncharted's platforming look like Super Mario.
 
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Lunar15

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Gotta give props for Naughty Dog actually making the post-apocalypse look INTERESTING. Colors!

(and yes, before you say it, I understand that other games have done this. It's just nice to see it when it happens)
 
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Hypereides

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Should we expect the first previews and impressions today?


Lunar15 said:
Gotta give props for Naughty Dog actually making the post-apocalypse look INTERESTING. Colors!

(and yes, before you say it, I understand that other games have done this. It's just nice to see it when it happens)
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I think Gears 2 had a nice post-apocalyptic level with jungle growth and colors too....
 
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Callibretto

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Sickboy007 said:
Fair enough, but for all we know this could still be the move game. There are similarities and the development time coincides.
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we know nothing about Until Dawn other than that few second clip from Move montage and it look nothing like it. also, I thought Until Dawn is SCEE game.
 
Auto_aim1

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Evolved1 said:
I'm actually considering the idea of 100% media blackout. 0_o

Don't know if I have the willpower though, to abstain from even the basic info.
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I'm going to do that. They basically showed so much from Uncharted 3 before release, and I really don't want this game spoiled for me as well.
 
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Ricky_R

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Evolved1 said:
I'm actually considering the idea of 100% media blackout. 0_o

Don't know if I have the willpower though, to abstain from even the basic info.
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I think I will be going on a media black out for this game too. It will be my first ever.

I honestly think that my exposure to Uncharted 3 was too much and it hurt my experience a bit.
 
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alr1ght

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Meier said:
I read his post and disagree with it but that's irrelevant. Someone can make a laundry list of things they don't like about every game in existence.

The fact remains that the vast majority of the complaints were by people talking about frame rate and graphical issues and that is something exclusive to the PS3 version. Anyone playing a multi platform game on the PS3 knows what to expect after 6 years.

I guarantee most people who are talking shit about it never played it or at worse, played the inferior version and that's on them. This guy is a designer, not a programmer.
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I played it on 360 and the frame rate was absolute shit, I don't see how you can see otherwise. I'm not blaming the designer guy for their programmers, however.
 
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Figboy79

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Considering that Naughty Dog practically specializes in character animation, I doubt this will be a first person game.

They didn't spend three Uncharted games nailing complex, context sensitive character movement/interaction with the environment to stick the camera in the main character's head.

From Crash, to Jak, to Uncharted, they tend to prefer the third person perspective. I love them for this.
 
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Ricky_R

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Figboy79 said:
Considering that Naughty Dog practically specializes in character animation, I doubt this will be a third person game.

They didn't spend three Uncharted games nailing complex, context sensitive character movement/interaction with the environment to stick the camera in the main character's head.

From Crash, to Jak, to Uncharted, they tend to prefer the third person perspective. I love them for this.
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You mean first person no? and I agree.

It's what most of the people here have been saying about it. Would be a shame for them to hide their great animations.
 
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Meier

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badcrumble said:
the combat in Enslaved is OBJECTIVELY shitty, sorry. it's not even a matter of opinion.
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The combat in Uncharted is OBJECTIVELY shitty, but who cares? It has other good parts to it which outweigh the bad. Regardless, I personally disagree with this regarding Enslaved though because there is at least a decent amount of variety to it due to the power up ability.

alr1ghtstart said:
I played it on 360 and the frame rate was absolute shit, I don't see how you can see otherwise. I'm not blaming the designer guy for their programmers, however.
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Sorry, that absolutely is not true. Maybe installing it makes an absolutely massive difference but it was a non-issue for me and most people.
 
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Takuya

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Figboy79 said:
Considering that Naughty Dog practically specializes in character animation, I doubt this will be a third person game.

They didn't spend three Uncharted games nailing complex, context sensitive character movement/interaction with the environment to stick the camera in the main character's head.

From Crash, to Jak, to Uncharted, they tend to prefer the third person perspective. I love them for this.
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You mean first person?
 
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delta25

Banned
badcrumble said:
the combat in Enslaved is OBJECTIVELY shitty, sorry. it's not even a matter of opinion.
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The game isn't even necessary about the combat but more so the relationship and bond that develops between Trip and Monkey on their journey to find freedom. IMO Enslaved is more a of charterer driven game then it is anything else.
 
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badcrumble

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Meier said:
The combat in Uncharted is OBJECTIVELY shitty, but who cares? It has other good parts to it which outweigh the bad. Regardless, I personally disagree with this regarding Enslaved though because there is at least a decent amount of variety to it due to the power up ability.
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you're wrong sorry
 
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