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Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes

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It hurts my soul to live in a world without TimeSplitters 4

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God.........damnit
 

guek

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What a weird double negative statement, but most certainly unintentional.

The next few months are going to go really fast for me, so I'm going to try to refrain from getting drawn into any obnoxious debates over third party support until we get a better picture what is and isn't true. *shrugs*
 

Yen

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Many games from e3 11 that've been announced for wii u have not been talked about again in detail since their initial announcements. There are other games in the past few months that have announced wii u support with logos in press releases, web pages (project cars), etc. that have been subsequently taken down. Lastly there have been a couple of developers, Ono, vigil, etc. that have even directly said or hinted that nintendo has been laying down heavy NDAs for the system and it's upcoming games.

Pretty much.

Exhibit A: Project CARS promo material has a WiiU logo one day, and the next day it's gone.

Exhibit B: Previously announced titles, such as Darksiders II, have ZERO WiiU-related media.

Exhibit C: What, you thought absolutely NO GAME ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR A YEAR was normal?!

What possible benefit can result from doing this? Massive E3 blow out this year!
 

MadOdorMachine

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Well, you could just choose to believe Satterfield.

But yeah, as I've said before, Nintendo should have little trouble convincing third parties to greenlight Wii U versions of any and every multiplatform HD title shipping in Q4 of this year or later. If, in reality, more than a few such titles end up slipping through the cracks, it'll bode quite poorly for the system's future. (Not that multiplatform titles are enough in themselves, but that's another matter.)

Epic Mickey 2 denial is particularly bizarre, since all other indications are that Spector's/JP's relations with Nintendo are quite warm, and the excuse Spector gave makes no sense (he claimed that the game was "so far" into development by the time Wii U was "announced," yet EM2 couldn't possibly have been much more than 5-6 months into development by the time dev kits were made available early last year).

I'm sure Wii U will have an impressive line up of games but I also think it will be missing a lot of third party games. We can go on and on about this, but it doesn't bode well right now. Things can change if Wii U is successful. Right now it looks like they will primarily be depending on first party games and the hope that Wii purchasers upgrade to Wii U. If they don't I predict it will be GC all over again.

It's not just the fact that devs didn't have enough time to put their games on Wii U. It's the fact that it's pretty much garaunteed to be weaker than Durango and Orbius. Couple this with Nintendo's past problems with third party support and it's likely they won't get the games again. I'll still get a Wii U for Nintendo games, but I think them turning things around with third parties may be a lot harder than some think. They've been trying desparately since N64 to fix this, and for every console we've been given excuses. Well, here they are. The excuses are starting once again.
 

test_account

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It almost broke 18k in Japan!


In truth, it garnered a ton of interesting awards and/or press mentions of notability, and this sort of attention can increase mindshare for a sequel. The question is: Did Nintendo wait too long to capitalize on this?

Probably.
Like shit, but times have changed. Eternal Darkness was an M-rated title on a platform with an image problem and a tiny install base.

I think Eternal Darkness in 2012 is an entirely different proposition. And considering Silicon Knights situation, I'm sure Nintendo got to dictate terms to SK with little blow back.
Thanks. I guess there is no worldwide numbers for it?


"I still don't see how first-person shooters will be any fun on that hulking controller."

say wut?

Nintendo can't please anyone
I'd rather say "everyone" instead :) That comment in the article is just one guy's opinion.
 
yes which we know absolutely nothing about, good job

I think he's just speculating reasons why Crytek might not be supporting Wii U. There's always the potential that the Nintendo Network won't be fully fledged.

I think it will be, but that's just a hunch. They seem to have been heading in the right direction for a while now.
 
I warned against assuming that every unannounced third party game was a lock for WiiU. Though the game doesn't look that great one still has to wonder about the third party support nintendo has been able to muster.
 
I hope the success of Harvest Moon on the 3DS makes Marvelous decide to pump one out for the wiiU earlier in the lifecycle (as in first year to 1.5 year) rather than later. Especially considering how damn long Natsume takes to localize shit. Always 1 to 1.5 years it takes em.

/personal want
 

StevieP

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hmm

usually when someone says "fat chance" it's sarcastic, as in "not going to happen". this guy however said "not a fat chance". can we take that as the double negative to mean "it's not NOT going to happen"?

i think crysis 3 is gonna come to wii u. just watch.

Third parties sales are going to suffer on Xbox360 and PS3 this holiday season with the WiiU out.

Posts like these are why specialguy did that hit-n-run lol.

The Wii U is going to have better third party support than the Wii but a far cry from its competitors.

As wsippel and IdeaMan said, it's (currently, at least) not a hardware issue.
 
I warned against assuming that every unannounced third party game was a lock for WiiU. Though the game doesn't look that great one still has to wonder about the third party support nintendo has been able to muster.

I understand where you're coming from, but this is CoD we're talking about. If they're willing to make Wii versions, it's obvious they will make Wii U versions.

It will come out on everything. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some version of it that hits the iOS devices.
 

methodman

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it had to be posted. it had to be. don't go in that thread trying to explain the situation because most people won't believe you, this is the position Nintendo has put themselves in by being so quiet about news for this thing, so when something comes out, be it good or bad, it's going to be newsworthy. i think Nintendo has fucked up by being this quiet for so long, especially if they fail to produce during E3. even if they do show up at e3, having this much bad press is not a good look imo
 

IdeaMan

My source is my ass!
We know Zen Studios will make a Marvel Pinball version for the Wii U, here's some precisions from the creative director Neil Sorens

(btw, again an info coming from a spanish source. My fellow Frenchmen (& former colleagues), what are you waiting to CREATE through interviews & investigations, some interesting news ? It's been months since i've not read exclusive content from you ! It's a shame !)

RG: Now that you talk about Marvel Pinball… You’ve made some tables based on other licenses. Would you like to create a Nintendo based table?

Neil: Yes, definitely. We’d love to make Mario, Zelda or Pokémon pinball tables. Nintendo is obviously very protective of their Intellectual Properties, so we hoping that once our games become established on their platforms they’ll see us as a good potential partner and they’ll want to work with us.

Yes, please, Nintendo, lend them your IP for awesome themed pinball tables !

RG: One last question: Have you thought about using the Wii U controller for a pinball game? With its triggers and its accelerometers it looks like a good fit.

Neil: Well, the new Wii U controller is… very good for pinball, actually. I can’t talk you much more than that right now but yeah, I agree that it would be pretty cool for pinball *laughs*.

The pinball displayed on the padlet, and you use its triggers ? A virtual pinball with a first-person view from the ball displayed on the TV, and you have to move in your living room from left to right, holding the screen in front of it to use the flippers ? (just imagine the scene, lol).
 

axisofweevils

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An interesting point.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37209554&postcount=648

It's nonsense, actually. More third party games were sold on Nintendo platforms this generation than on either of their competitors' platforms. These include ~200 million sellers so it's not like it's only a few huge games that do well either.

The mistake people make when looking at Nintendo's dominance of the top seller lists and concluding from that that third parties can't catch a break is the failure to realize that those Nintendo games would dominate the top seller lists of any system. For example, 20 million copies would be enough to claim #1 on both 360 and PS3 while on Wii it won't even get you into the top 5.
 

AzaK

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For those that read the article but didn't watch the video, the video interview is much more balanced and he expands on the statement "Not a fat chance". He goes on to say that the launch platforms are PC and consoles and he doesn't think "it's in the cards to do a Wii U version of it".
 
Does anybody give a shit about this random third party support? No disrespect to you IdeaMan but if that's what nintendo has to show after a year's worth of silence that would be laughable.
 

guek

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I like this. Something to combat the relentless attitude found in most large outlets.

I really wish Nintendo had the guts to say to these sites:
"Fuck you - no more review copies, no more interviews, and you're disinvited from our conference. Have a great E3. You won't miss us, right? We're too goddamn kiddy and behind the times and technologically obsolete to bother covering anyway, right, hmm? We'll just invite these smaller fan-driven community sites instead. Buh-bye!"

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I like this. Something to combat the relentless attitude found in most large outlets.

I really wish Nintendo had the guts to say to these sites:
"Fuck you - no more review copies, no more interviews, and you're disinvited from our conference. Have a great E3. You won't miss us, right? We're too goddamn kiddy and behind the times and technologically obsolete to bother covering anyway, right, hmm? We'll just invite these smaller fan-driven community sites instead. Buh-bye!"

If they did this, there would be no more un-biased reviews of Nintendo games. Terrible idea. All the sites they didn't give the cold shoulder to would be told "You only gave this game a good score because Nintendo invited you to their E3 conference."
 

IdeaMan

My source is my ass!
guys I have a theory every time ideaman post a news clip and points at wiiu possibilities he is giving insider hints :3

Not to this extent my little smiles :)
I'm writing some hints, yes, some of them have been overlooked (in thread 3 and recently in thread 4), but i'll reveal all that i know until E3 so it's not a big problem.
 

Sadist

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For those that read the article but didn't watch the video, the video interview is much more balanced and he expands on the statement "Not a fat chance". He goes on to say that the launch platforms are PC and consoles and he doesn't think "it's in the cards to do a Wii U version of it".
Yup. It's the same excuse essentially compared to the ones that Crystal Dynamics and Hideo Kojima used.
 

axisofweevils

Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
"Wii U is kind of a special case," said the Crysis 3 creator. "The way the player interacts with the device is very different than any other device out there. So if I were to make a game for the Wii U, it would have to be a unique game."

Even then, the Crysis engine is still compatible with the Wii U, says the developer. The issue isn't with the game's engine, but rather what seems to be the developer's desire to create a unique title centered on the Wii U's capabilities. That's good to know, because the last thing we need is a wacky Wii U port of what could be a great game on other consoles. If the developers want to tinker around with the upcoming Nintendo console's hardware to deliver an intriguing and unique game, that's a much better idea than a port.

Sorry. Had to do it.
 

IdeaMan

My source is my ass!
Does anybody give a shit about this random third party support? No disrespect to you IdeaMan but if that's what nintendo has to show after a year's worth of silence that would be laughable.

Do you refer to all these indie/small studios news that have been relayed here ? In that case, after daily reading & analyzing of the market, i'm in the camp that believe buzz-making and good apps & "little" games from these companies may surely have a bigger impact than classic "ambitious" retail software for the long-term viability and the success of Wii U. It's important news. But i understand that as old school gamers, some of you want more :)
 
The only 3rd part devs I give a shit about, not including the ones that will OBVIOUSLY support with the WiiU are Kojima, Square-Enix, FromSoftware.

Everyone else can do what they want.
 
"Wii U is kind of a special case," said the Crysis 3 creator. "The way the player interacts with the device is very different than any other device out there. So if I were to make a game for the Wii U, it would have to be a unique game."

Even then, the Crysis engine is still compatible with the Wii U, says the developer. The issue isn't with the game's engine, but rather what seems to be the developer's desire to create a unique title centered on the Wii U's capabilities. That's good to know, because the last thing we need is a wacky Wii U port of what could be a great game on other consoles. If the developers want to tinker around with the upcoming Nintendo console's hardware to deliver an intriguing and unique game, that's a much better idea than a port.

Sorry. Had to do it.

Pleasr someone hand me a spoon so i can start eating my own brain. Arghhhhh!!!
 

Discomurf

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By the way this source is also claiming that Nintendo is trying to cut production costs...

"Cutting production costs to maximize profits is Nintendo's main concern with the Wii U," said a source in an interview with Forget the Box. "There is a bigger focus on downloadable content, applications, video content, digital distribution, and services to create a stream of revenue."
 

IdeaMan

My source is my ass!
The only 3rd part devs I give a shit about, not including the ones that will OBVIOUSLY support with the WiiU are Kojima, Square-Enix, FromSoftware.

Everyone else can do what they want.

Let's say Bioware, just when they'll finally be able to port their next sci-fi western RPG to a Nintendo console, stop the development of their upcoming project, and try an entry in the omelette & baked alaska market, with Shepard shaped scrambled-eggs, would you REALLY don't give a shit about that ?
 
Let's say Bioware, when they'll finally be able to port their next sci-fi western RPG to a Nintendo console, stop their the development of their upcoming projects, and try an entry in the omelette & baked alaska market, with Shepard shaped scrambled-eggs, would you REALLY don't give a shit about that ?
Hmm, gonna have to mull this one over for a couple weeks.
 
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