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It's not.
are they not the same price? I know gaf has threads each time a PSN+ game goes on sale, but xbla games go on sale every week too.
What I was referring to was Sony banning for Trophy manipulation or in game cheating/modding. They do nothing.
The "Grief Report" feature you cite is very lax, as it only applies to harassment-based messages, in which I hear they don't even do anything about besides a few old US PlayStation Home suspensions due to cussing.
Sony does not have teams of people to crack the whip on this stuff. Microsoft does.
Funnily enough, they may or may not take lax action to Little Billy calling Little Johnny's momma fat in a text message, but if you manipulate the Trophy system or cheat/mod games, it's totally fine.
Yes, XBL has the superior service.
But aside from that, you're incorrect. PSN has improved leaps and bounds since 11/06, and if you can't see that, there's really no point in discussing it further.
To me, XBL having party chat alone is almost a deal-maker, I use that function every single time I log onto Xbox Live. It's hard to get used to not having it on PSN. I mean sure you can chat inside of games, but a game-independent chat channel should be mandatory.
Well, I'm down to a choice between MS and Sony since it seems apparent Nintendo is going to underpower their console with the Wii U. Can I count on Sony to deliver a better online experience? Doubtful, but I do hope they come through. I would love to be able to drop gold service, but I would miss shooters like Halo and Gears. Sony simply has nothing in those genres to match MS shooter wise, and until they can come up with a better or equal online package with more variety in shooters MS will own online gaming. Pick it up Sony!
I've been hearing the exact opposite. Jeff Gerstmann from Giant Bomb has said on the podcast that people hack achivements almost on the regular. FYI: I believe he mostly plays on 360. Also lets not forget people using the hacked dlc characters online in Street Fighter X Tekken.The trophy system as been hacked to bits and has turn into a complete playground, and I don't think I've ever heard of the word "ban" in Sony's vocabulary. Microsoft on the other hand, has their achievement system locked down, and if anyone does happen to tamper with the system, they are promptly banned after two or less reports.
Party chat, faster downloads and patches, doesn't take 40 minutes to delete some things.
I always felt more connected when I was on xbl too. I don't know how to explain it but I always feel like I might as well be playing offline when I sign on to PSN.
Party chat, faster downloads and patches, doesn't take 40 minutes to delete some things.
I've been hearing the exact opposite. Jeff Gerstmann from Giant Bomb has said on the podcast that people hack achivements almost on the regular. FYI: I believe he mostly plays on 360. Also lets not forget people using the hacked dlc characters online in Street Fighter X Tekken.
XBL - better online structure (except the ads, not even speedy likes them)
PSN - better *discounts/subscriptions
We can all agree on this, right?
Because MS is mainly a software company
"You may report a user who is acting inappropriately or in breach of the PlayStation®Network Terms of Service."
source http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=362740Eggnogga said:The answer is simple: Money.
PSN = free. So, any money spent by Sony in regards to looking into this would be money out of their own pockets. And since PSN is free, the user can just create a new account and "mod" their trophies again to their hearts content. Nothing to stop them.
xbox Live = $60/year. Xbox, as a part of their year subscription fee, actually has employees to crack the whip, and the fee is a detraction for user's to continually make more accounts.
I'm okay with this.
You're citing information in a ToS that you're most likely reading for the first time, and I'm citing experience. I've been on PS3 since 2006. They do nothing about Trophy manipulation, you can ask anyone that.
I've also read the fine print of the ToS multiple times in the past as well as updates to it as the updates were rolled out. There is nothing in the ToS that really talks about game cheating or trophy manipulation..
Really , XBOX Live !?
First, the dashboard is pure garbage, I just played Halo Reach after a year because I was using my roommate's 360, what the hell happened to the dashboard!? it used to be simple and used to be all about Gaming, now it is all about Ads X Ads for movies, services, TV, and you had to go all that trouble to launch a game, such a horrible greedy company, comparing it to the PS3's simple and unique dashboard.
Oh, Vita's Online and OS is the superior in my opinion by far.
Until Sony and Nintendo get an xbox.com equivalent, they'll never be on par. Can't believe all Sony has after a full generation is a shitty blog site.
"Online" doesn't just mean competitive multiplayer. He could be playing co-op with his friends, or talking to them while playing single player games. A lot of people on Xbox will have friends they talk to as soon as they get online, it doesn't mean they're going to play a team based multiplayer game.No offense, but if your not talking/communicating to the "team" you are playing with while online, why even play online?
Party chat, faster downloads and patches, doesn't take 40 minutes to delete some things.
I always felt more connected when I was on xbl too. I don't know how to explain it but I always feel like I might as well be playing offline when I sign on to PSN.
I also wish there was an ingame guide rather than having to go back to the home screen every time I want to check something.
As we are talking about PSN as a service and not in one particular platform, PSN already has party chat.This for me with Party Chat being far and aware being the key feature. The ridiculously slow download times and patch process on PS3 is certainly annoying, but having no party chat is the one thing that holds PSN back from having more or less feature parity with XBL.
At this point I'm more interested in seeing how it plays out next-gen, particularly if PSN goes fully paid or not.
Personally, the only thing that bugs me about those prompts is that they keep popping in and out. Just give me the 3rd screen for 8 seconds, I don't care.Battery life man. If it stayed connected to the PSN and was constantly accessing it your battery would be raped shitless.
Nothing fucks your battery more than wifi access.
I was simply replying to your claim that "The "Grief Report" feature you cite is very lax, as it only applies to harassment-based messages". Clearly not just that it's intended for.
Either they ban someone for trophy hacking or not I have no idea. Although I do know they do ban accounts.
xbox live launched in 2002, psn launched in 2006. nintendo has no online service.
there's your answer.
I don't think it's fair to make it seem like 2006 was Sony's first ever effort. They were doing online stuff just as long as Microsoft - PS2 had the broadband adapter and SOCOM was a 2002 release for example.
It's just that Microsoft did things properly from the start while Sony wasted several years on a flawed strategy and had to play catch up.
He could be playing co-op with his friends, or talking to them while playing single player games.
My problem with the VITA's PSN functionality is that they broke it up like they did, making everything a separate app, instead of having it all under a PSN or XMB like menu that pops up when you're in game via the PS button, like it does on the PS3. You should be able to sign in and then just be online, get messages, go cross game voice chat, etc, instead of jumping between different apps.
I can get why they did it the way they did, to make it more feasible to send messages and stuff over 3G but - I'd rather have a full online suite like the current XMB has, it's just a shame they won't, or rather can't put cross game chat on the PS3 due to RAM issues.
To compare/mix and match the two online suites is kind of unfair when they're VERY different between the PS3 and PS VITA. The VITA has more features because of it's increased RAM but it's also limited to make things more flexible with 3G, as I mentioned.
Overall though, it's a free online service that is just lacking cross game/party chat and a few other small features that XBL users pay for. You can get online, play games, have in game voice chat, etc, all for free, and it's usually pretty darn reliable. Sure when it launched the PSN was pretty barren but it was still new, XBL was already several years old and well established thanks to Halo's success and online multiplayer.
PSN has made great strides and is a pretty big competitor IMO. Overall I'm pretty happy with what the PSN offers, it's a clean, easy to navigate experience and best of all - it's free. You can't argue with free when it's reliable and free of advertisements. Also, to damn the PSN due to the whole hacking fiasco is silly. It's back now and stronger than ever. Many people forget that XBL went down for weeks at a time.
The stigma that XBL is superior only remains because people want to justify using it because they pay for it.
Microsoft is primarily a software company, Sony is primarily a hardware company.
I must be the only person that hates party chat.
Oh junior, you make it so painfully obvious. XBL went down for weeks at a time and people just forgot?
I know you mentioned you didn't know much about it, but that's no reason to lash out, because it isn't how party chat works.Me too, talking multiplayer online here, if your not playing the same game as me, stop talking to me, I'm busy talking to my "teammates".
if you care about completing games, something that in no way inhibits or diminishes your joy in completing games is a big deal.Who in the world could possibly care about "trophy manipulation."
It does not impact you in any way at all even a little bit.
How many platinums somebody else cheated to get is probably the least important thing in the world to me, I agree.Who in the world could possibly care about "trophy manipulation."
It does not impact you in any way at all even a little bit.
i dont see how its doubtful; if they only match the vita they'd surpass xbox live as it currently is.
if you care about completing games, something that in no way inhibits or diminishes your joy in completing games is a big deal.