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The Wii U Speculation Thread V: The Final Frontier

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MadOdorMachine

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Only a month until E3. I have an interesting question. Anyone think it's possible Wii U could operate without a TV needed, period?

I remember reading old Miyamoto interviews where he said he wanted to take games off the TV set and didn't want to be limited to that space. Of course it's going to connect to a TV, but I wonder if they have designed it in mind without it being a requirement? You turn it on and stream right to your tablet without a TV connected.

You must have missed the speculation that they were experimenting with using a stereoscopic visor.

As far as Crysis 3 is concerned. Crytek already said it wasn't coming. The only logical explanation I can think of is that they didn't receive dev kits in time or that they don't have the staffing to do it.
 
You must have missed the speculation that they were experimenting with using a stereoscopic visor.

As far as Crysis 3 is concerned. Crytek already said it wasn't coming. The only logical explanation I can think of is that they didn't receive dev kits in time or that they don't have the staffing to do it.
Or that EA doesn't think it will sell on there.
 
I am willing to bet there will be some games that won't be 100% playable on the controller only.

Well, that should be obvious. Some (but far from all) games will incorporate two (three?) screens as a fundamental design element, just as some (but far from all) DS games were designed around the dual screens. There'll probably be other games that could and should support a controller-only mode, but will be from lazy devs that don't bother to implement one.
 
Sasha grey?

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Too kiddeh.
 

BurntPork

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You must have missed the speculation that they were experimenting with using a stereoscopic visor.

As far as Crysis 3 is concerned. Crytek already said it wasn't coming. The only logical explanation I can think of is that they didn't receive dev kits in time or that they don't have the staffing to do it.

They've had kits since at least E3 last year, so that's not it.
 
How well did Crysis even sell on the HD Twins? Fans of the series had an uproar when it was ported. EA obviously thinks Crysis could survive on consoles.

I believe Crysis 2 was a million seller, for however much that's worth.

I imagine the numbers are going to be inherently lower for Crysis 3 because it won't be on Steam.
 

RedSwirl

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How do you know for sure if no Wii U hardware has been confirmed ?, also *if* it can run it then why is Crysis 3 not coming to Wii U from Nintendo's biggest major third party supporter from last E3 ?.

If i was Nintendo and i wanted to showcase both the power of the Wii U hardware over the PS360 and the new core focused strategy then i could think of no better game than Crysis 3 to show these points off with.

Crysis 3 isn't out until March / April 2013 and they have been working on Crysis 3 since just before E3 2011.

Something smells fishy to me and it doesn't fill me with hope for the power of the Wii U hardware.

CryEngine 3 is already running on the Wii U. They've confirmed it. Homefront 2 is running on the same engine as Crysis 3, and will have a Wii U version.

Crytek Frankfurt already gave a reason for not doing a Wii U version of Crysis 3 - they say they don't have the resources to develop four versions of the game simultaneously. Crytek UK is the only part of the company that even has a dev kit.
 

HylianTom

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Watching the 2006 E3 conference is slightly surreal. You can see all the signs for the Wii's fate. Mass market appeal, bad third party support, lack of gaming media enthusiasm. It's all there.

Oh and the small changes between then and launch including the new Zelda control scheme and the Mii graphics.

You should go back and listen to some old podcasts from that era. Between November of last year and today, I have listened to over 400 episodes of Nintendo-centric podcasts (the pseudobanned site and two other Nintendo fansites' podcasts) starting in 2005 before the Wii arrived.

My findings? The predictions, concerns, bullshit developer comments, honest developer comments, gaming media treatment - it's all so incredibly consistent and obvious in retrospect. And more than ever, I am convinced that a system's inaugural E3 sets a tone that is incredibly difficult to break free from.
 

starmud

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Rösti;37684495 said:
Nothing special, but full floor plans are up now (only West Hall was shown in the PDF Sony supplied): http://www.mapyourshow.com/shows/index.cfm?Show_ID=E312

In case you haven't seen it, Nintendo's booth (4822) is located in West Hall. Microsoft (4100) and Sony (4522) are there as well, it appears changes have been made as they now only have one booth each instead of two (as reported on the PDF dated March). So, no Durango or Orbis, then? Nah, amount of booths/booth size shouldn't reflect what a company intends to show.

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Activision, Capcom, Electronic Arts, Sega, Square Enix and Ubisoft, to name a few exhibitors, reside in South Hall.

Following the addition of the floor plans, we should begin to see a rather steady addition of exhibitors under the Wii U product categories. Capcom used to be on the list, so perhaps they will be readded.

what the... zynga has a closet... yet, gree has a huge booth... considering they have like three products in north america... o____O
 

Penguin

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You should go back and listen to some old podcasts from that era. Between November of last year and today, I have listened to over 400 episodes of Nintendo-centric podcasts (the pseudobanned site and two other Nintendo fansites' podcasts) starting in 2005 before the Wii arrived.

My findings? The predictions, concerns, bullshit developer comments, honest developer comments, gaming media treatment - it's all so incredibly consistent and obvious in retrospect. And more than ever, I am convinced that a system's inaugural E3 sets a tone that is incredibly difficult to break free from.

I don't know.. wasn't the PS3's initial reveal pretty stellar..
It wasn't until the following year with the Giant Enemy crab and 599 that it became a joke
 
CryEngine 3 is already running on the Wii U. They've confirmed it. Homefront 2 is running on the same engine as Crysis 3, and will have a Wii U version.

Crytek Frankfurt already gave a reason for not doing a Wii U version of Crysis 3 - they say they don't have the resources to develop four versions of the game simultaneously. Crytek UK is the only part of the company that even has a dev kit.

Thanks for clearing that up fellow Turtle ;).
 
what the... zynga has a closet... yet, gree has a huge booth... considering they have like three products in north america... o____O

Gree (whom I just looked up) probably feels that it's advantageous to get the word out in order to make inroads into North America. Zynga has this territory by the balls now and doesn't really need to build mindshare.
 

AniHawk

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is this the first time nintendo, microsoft, and sony have shared the same hall? makes my walking plans easier. and my trampling plans even tramplinger.
 
Frankfurt already gave a reason for not doing a Wii U version of Crysis 3 - they say they don't have the resources to develop four versions of the game simultaneously. Crytek UK is the only part of the company that even has a dev kit.

Source? All I've seen is the "not a fat chance" interview.
 

HylianTom

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I don't know.. wasn't the PS3's initial reveal pretty stellar..
It wasn't until the following year with the Giant Enemy crab and 599 that it became a joke

The PS3's inaugural E3 was in 2006. You're right - it was pretty good, except for the jokey headlines. (and while I'm at it: Sony does a pretty good sizzle reel, I think.)

I'm not counting mini-reveals like the Wii U's from last year.. I'm talkin' about the E3 right before a system launches.
 
The PS3's inaugural E3 was in 2006. You're right - it was pretty good, except for the jokey headlines. (and while I'm at it: Sony does a pretty good sizzle reel, I think.)

I'm not counting mini-reveals like the Wii U's from last year.. I'm talkin' about the E3 right before a system launches.

Hah, it was a bit long to be considered a "mini" reveal. But it was definitely more of a teaser than a blowout. A lot of the questions answered this time around will give us a concise idea of what Nintendo's game plan is. There are so many variables that will have to be unveiled then. Not just stuff like "which games does it have" and "how fast is it", but things like "Does Nintendo plan on early profitability", "what further actions is Nintendo taking to secure third parties", "What are the limits on the digital downloading ecosystem", all sort of stuff like that!

It's going to be slightly exciting.
 

HylianTom

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Hah, it was a bit long to be considered a "mini" reveal. But it was definitely more of a teaser than a blowout. A lot of the questions answered this time around will give us a concise idea of what Nintendo's game plan is. There are so many variables that will have to be unveiled then. Not just stuff like "which games does it have" and "how fast is it", but things like "Does Nintendo plan on early profitability", "what further actions is Nintendo taking to secure third parties", "What are the limits on the digital downloading ecosystem", all sort of stuff like that!

It's going to be slightly exciting.

True. I'm struggling with the wording here, but you've got the idea. :p
(I'm still trying to come-up with E3 Bingo squares, and your questions may be giving me ideas.)

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And I've never heard of Playfire until today. Then again, I'm probably not their target audience.
 

Glass Joe

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Only a month until E3. I have an interesting question. Anyone think it's possible Wii U could operate without a TV needed, period?

I remember reading old Miyamoto interviews where he said he wanted to take games off the TV set and didn't want to be limited to that space. Of course it's going to connect to a TV, but I wonder if they have designed it in mind without it being a requirement? You turn it on and stream right to your tablet without a TV connected.

Absolutely that will happen. If the O/S requires a TV, I'll eat my hat.
not really
Likely the OS will be set similar to the 3DS where the bottom screen will be a Windows style GUI where all the navigation happens, and the top screen (TV in this case) will just be a pretty display of the selected icon.

Certain games REQUIRING the TV is still possible. But the basic interface won't need it (or there will be an alternate interface available).
 

Lyude77

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sounds about right. It's asking which console won not which toy won.

I don't think "PC" counts as a console either, for that matter, haha.

The PS3's inaugural E3 was in 2006. You're right - it was pretty good, except for the jokey headlines. (and while I'm at it: Sony does a pretty good sizzle reel, I think.)

I'm not counting mini-reveals like the Wii U's from last year.. I'm talkin' about the E3 right before a system launches.
I know what you mean. I don't really count the Wii U's reveal as a real one, seeing that very few launch games or details were shown. It was obviously more than a teaser though. I guess I like mini-reveal well enough.
 
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