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[Onemic]

Fixated? That was the issue being discussed. Everyone agrees mandatory sentencing applied in cases like this is stupid. There's little to discuss.

And there's little to discuss that she acted irrationally albeit reasonably given the circumstances. You demonizing her actions do little but help hide the criminal injustice of the 20 year sentencing.

Yep, what was she thinking? the self-defense thing only works for white folk.

I'm not arguing this point, but it would be interesting if someone could get some stats on stand your ground and its success/failure rate towards whites and blacks(minorities in general) in florida.

 

[Xenon]

Heres a BS flag, his stance stays the same regardless of flip-flopping opinions self defense, depending on race.

I'm glad to be part of that side that is able to see that shooting no one, and not being protected by stand your ground, when chasing someone down and stabbing them to death is, is another sad case of shouldnta-done-it-while-black.

You are right skin color is the only variable in those two cases.

 

[KHarvey16]

And there's little to discuss that she acted irrationally albeit reasonably given the circumstances. You demonizing her actions do little but help hide the criminal injustice of the 20 year sentencing.

What? Why? What she did was illegal and 20 years is far too harsh. This was my very first post. Everyone agrees with the second portion of that statement, some disagree with the first. The inability of some to entertain two separate thoughts at once isn't my problem.

 

[RPGCrazied]

That's fucked up. She was just defending herself? Glad I don't live in Florida.

 

[commedieu]

And there's little to discuss that she acted irrationally albeit reasonably given the circumstances. You demonizing her actions do little but help hide the criminal injustice of the 20 year sentencing.




I'm not arguing this point, but it would be interesting if someone could get some stats on stand your ground and its success/failure rate towards whites and blacks(minorities in general) in florida.

I've actually been googling this sort of on and off trying to find that source of info. But all the cases I find are definitely white/hispanics shooting each other it seems. There is one with an older gentleman who tried to use it, black, and failed while fighting with someone at a park, as he had the option to leave the scene as the gun-owner.

There is really no common thread in Stand Your Ground that makes one case an example for others, as they all really do just seem up to the judge that day.

http://www.tampabay.com/stand-your-ground-law/main

 

[Onemic]

What? Why? What she did was illegal and 20 years is far too harsh. This was my very first post. Everyone agrees with the second portion of that statement, some disagree with the first. The inability of some to entertain two separate thoughts at once isn't my problem.

Tell me what demonizing her actions accomplish compared to the discussion of floridas fucked up minimum sentencing law? I really want to know, especially when everyone here knows she acted irrationally. By your logic this shouldn't be discussed as well because everyone agrees her actions weren't of sound mind.

 

[Frank "Trashman" Reynolds]

Florida.
Why is it always florida?

Because Texas is on vacation.

 

[commedieu]

You are right skin color is the only variable in those two cases.

Great response!

 

[Bombadil]

thats what i want to know...

I swear every other story of people doing something extremely stupid is from Florida.

Confirmation bias.

I've been hearing and mourning over this over the past week. Absolutely horrific. Fuck the racist, patriarchal US judicial system.

In this case, I wouldn't say racism was a motivating factor in the outcome of the case.

The prosecutor who tried this case is also trying Zimmerman for the Trayvon Martin murder. It's weird that when the prosecutor is trying a white person for murdering a black person, that prosecutor is not called a racist at all. But when the same prosecutor is trying a black person, that prosecutor's a racist? What the fuck kind of logic is that? Fuck the race card.

Secondly, the fact that she got sentenced to 20 years in prison is not a result of racism, but as a result of an ineffective law that fails to take into account the mitigating circumstances present in the case. The judge pointed this out.

The woman will likely overturn her sentence when she appeals, and hopefully the law will be reviewed.

She acted a bit carelessly by firing the gun in the direction where her kids happened to be, but I can't fault her irrationality considering the circumstances.

 

[commedieu]

Confirmation bias.



In this case, I wouldn't say racism was a motivating factor in the outcome of the case.

The prosecutor who tried this case is also trying Zimmerman for the Trayvon Martin murder. It's weird that when the prosecutor is trying a white person for murdering a black person, that prosecutor is not called a racist at all. But when the same prosecutor is trying a black person, that prosecutor's a racist? What the fuck kind of logic is that? Fuck the race card.

Secondly, the fact that she got sentenced to 20 years in prison is not a result of racism, but as a result of an ineffective law that fails to take into account the mitigating circumstances present in the case. The judge pointed this out.

The woman will likely overturn her sentence when she appeals, and hopefully the law will be reviewed.

She acted a bit carelessly by firing the gun in the direction where her kids happened to be, but I can't fault her irrationality considering the circumstances.

Hi. No one called the prosecutor racist. The judge, not the prosecutor, denied her claim of Self Defense & Stand your ground. Which is why it went to trial.

According to her woman-beating boyfriend, the kids were standing by his side. These threads really do spiral down the drain.

Gray had been twice arrested for domestic battery in previous relationships in 2006 and 2009. In the former case the charges were dropped, in the later he received probation. Alexander had an order of protection filed against Gray.

Marissa is not portraying herself as she is, I was begging for my life while my kids were holding on to my side, the gun was pointed at me.

I got my kids out of the house through the front door. We ran down the street. My son called the police on his cell phone and I called the police on my phone.

Marissa didn’t come out of the house until 30 minutes later after SWAT had to be called out. SWAT had to get in touch with one of Marissa’s family members and SWAT had to tell Marissa if she didn’t come out in five minutes they were coming in there to get her. It wasn’t like she came out when the police got there.

She’s just using the stand-your-ground because of the Trayvon incident. I feel sorry for her but at the same time I thought I was going to die that day in front of my kids.

- Gray's side of the story.

I'm out. Nice seeing all you guys again. Lifes too short to not spend it in the funnypics thread.

 

[KHarvey16]

Tell me what demonizing her actions accomplish compared to the discussion of floridas fucked up minimum sentencing law? I really want to know, especially when everyone here knows she acted irrationally. By your logic this shouldn't be discussed as well because everyone agrees her actions weren't of sound mind.

Demonizing is a rather dramatic way to describe calling it illegal. It's not a surprise your position relies on visceral language, is it?

Not everyone agrees her actions were illegal. Everyone does agree the mandatory sentencing structure is dumb. If you prefer discussing the latter, no one is stopping you.

 

[Bombadil]

Hi. No one called the prosecutor racist. The judge, not the prosecutor, denied her claim of Self Defense & Stand your ground. Which is why it went to trial.

According to her woman-beating boyfriend, the kids were standing by his side. These threads really do spiral down the drain.

Gray had been twice arrested for domestic battery in previous relationships in 2006 and 2009. In the former case the charges were dropped, in the later he received probation. Alexander had an order of protection filed against Gray.

- Gray's side of the story.

I'm out. Nice seeing all you guys again. Lifes too short to not spend it in the funnypics thread.

Did you not read the article?

 

[soundahfekz]

I hope you're including yourself in that group. Because you keep spouting this tired line in every thread. It's also no surprise you seem to always fall on the same side of every argument as well.

In every thread I've "fell on the same side" there has been Blatant social injustice present. Don't even pull that shit with me man.

You, Kharvey and Zoe show up thread after thread, always playing some bullshit ass thinly veiled "what if"scenario when blacks are involved. I'm black. I realize there is a real element of inequality still present. I don't only realize it I EXPERIENCE it, so when I see the same trolls hovering around a thread with a consistent contrarian pattern and no relation to said inequality other than a pattern of disdain for black adversity, damn right I call them out.

Funny thing is, I havent even PROVIDED an opinion on this case in this thread yet, so really in quoting me what the fuck is your agenda?

 

[Onemic]

Demonizing is a rather dramatic way to describe calling it illegal. It's not a surprise your position relies on visceral language, is it?

Not everyone agrees her actions were illegal. Everyone does agree the mandatory sentencing structure is dumb. If you prefer discussing the latter, no one is stopping you.

I find it makes my posts sound sexier to a degree, helps take away from this crazy circle jerk of blame the victim going on here.

And no one disagrees that her actions were irrational and firing a weapon in the open is illegal. What IS being argued though is that given the circumstances, such an action is being viewed far too harshly and is being looked at in a bubble rather than within the context of the story.

 

[Kettch]

If the two kids were standing next to the husband as he claims, I would actually find the warning shot 100% reasonable, oddly enough. When someone is threatening to kill you and has kids next to them, are you still supposed to try shooting that person rather than use a warning shot?

 

[kehs]

If the two kids were standing next to the husband as he claims, I would actually find the warning shot 100% reasonable, oddly enough. When someone is threatening to kill you and has kids next to them, are you still supposed to try shooting that person rather than use a warning shot?

Depends, are we talking blackwater training?

 

[Something Wicked]

In every thread I've "fell on the same side" there has been Blatant social injustice present. Don't even pull that shit with me man.

You, Kharvey and Zoe show up thread after thread, always playing some bullshit ass thinly veiled "what if"scenario when blacks are involved. I'm black. I realize there is a real element of inequality still present. I don't only realize it I EXPERIENCE it, so when I see the same trolls hovering around a thread with a consistent contrarian pattern and no relation to said inequality other than a pattern of disdain for black adversity, damn right I call them out.

Funny thing is, I havent even PROVIDED an opinion on this case in this thread yet, so really in quoting me what the fuck is your agenda?

And what I'm seeing is many people (of which many I know or I think are black) defending African Americans in a court case regardless of the circumstances. If she had killed some one with the stray bullet, I bet still some of you guys here would defend the woman. Playing the race card is extremely annoying and can breed racist attitudes itself on the other direction.

Her warning shot was unnecessary, potentially very dangerous, and certainly illegal. It would be illegal in every state and I assume most other countries. However, the real debate should be about this Floridan law's min and max years for the sentencing. Many people have already made that point in a respectful and logical manner.

 

[KHarvey16]

I find it makes my posts sound sexier to a degree, helps take away from this crazy circle jerk of blame the victim going on here.

And no one disagrees that her actions were irrational and firing a weapon in the open is illegal. What IS being argued though is that given the circumstances, such an action is being viewed far too harshly and is being looked at in a bubble rather than within the context of the story.

No I believe some here would argue her actions were not illegal. All I've said is they are illegal. Unless the context somehow argues in favor of it not being illegal(which it does not), that context doesn't have much impact on the position I've taken.

And what the hell does blame the victim mean? No one is blaming her for what she was the victim of. This separate illegal act was certainly her doing though.

 

[See You Next Wednesday]

Florida.
Why is it always florida?

Hellhole of the United States.

 

[Onemic]

And what I'm seeing is many people (of which many I know or I think are black) defending African Americans in a court case regardless of the circumstances. If she had killed some one with the stray bullet, I bet still some of you guys here would defend the woman. Playing the race card is extremely annoying and can breed racist attitudes itself on the other direction.

Her warning shot was unnecessary, potentially very dangerous, and certainly illegal. It would be illegal in every state and I assume most other countries. However, the real debate should be about this Floridan law's min and max years for the sentencing. Many people have already made that point in a respectful and logical manner.

Example?

 

[Chumly]

And what I'm seeing is many people (of which many I know or I think are black) defending African Americans in a court case regardless of the circumstances. If she had killed some one with the stray bullet, I bet still some of you guys here would defend the woman. Playing the race card is extremely annoying and can breed racist attitudes itself on the other direction.

Her warning shot was unnecessary, potentially very dangerous, and certainly illegal. It would be illegal in every state and I assume most other countries. However, the real debate should be about this Floridan law's min and max years for the sentencing. Many people have already made that point in a respectful and logical manner.

The real problem is people like you that constantly want to brush racism under the rug. Until people admit there is a problem with institutional racism the problem will never be dealt with.

 

[Onemic]

No I believe some here would argue her actions were not illegal. All I've said is they are illegal. Unless the context somehow argues in favor of it not being illegal(which it does not), that context doesn't have much impact on the position I've taken.

And what the hell does blame the victim mean? No one is blaming her for what she was the victim of. This separate illegal act was certainly her doing though.

Yes it is illegal. However if all you can add to a discussion are basic black and white facts without being able to critically analyze or observe the causes for such an action, what exactly do you add to a discussion other than facts that most seem to already know? (As I'm really unsure of those that you keep talking about that continue to argue that discharging a weapon in the air is not illegal)

 

[Duki]

Is it better to kill adults?

legally? same thing

morally? yeah, killing innocent children is probably worse

why was that so tough?

 

[KHarvey16]

Yes it is illegal. However if all you can add to a discussion are basic black and white facts without being able to critically analyze or observe the causes for such an action, what exactly do you add to a discussion other than facts that most seem to already know? (As I'm really unsure of those that you keep talking about that continue to argue that discharging a weapon in the air is not illegal)

Uh...I discussed this with DY_nasty, who responded to my first post here. He believes she acted in justifiable self defense. And if everyone thinks she acted illegally on top of everyone realizing the mandatory sentence is terrible, how can there be any disagreement here?

Why do you feel the need to moderate the discussion, anyway? It's rather ironic you're complaining about useless contributions to the thread.

 

[soundahfekz]

And what I'm seeing is many people (of which many I know or I think are black) defending African Americans in a court case regardless of the circumstances. If she had killed some one with the stray bullet, I bet still some of you guys here would defend the woman. Playing the race card is extremely annoying and can breed racist attitudes itself on the other direction.

Her warning shot was unnecessary, potentially very dangerous, and certainly illegal. It would be illegal in every state and I assume most other countries. However, the real debate should be about this Floridan law's min and max years for the sentencing. Many people have already made that point in a respectful and logical manner.

"you guys"

Yeah man that really shows me your level of education on social issues and minorities. You don't know shit about black people, your generalization was shit and the mentality of lassoing black gaffers into one hive mind is shit.

Ripclawe would be offended.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

You want to ignore the fact that someone who is scared and just had their life threatened isnt thinking rationally then cool.

But that's why she was charged and convicted. If you want it changed you should make Florida change their laws. The only reason it was pursued was because she reentered the house instead of fleeing which they thought was inconsistent with her fearing for her life because you wouldn't go back to where you thought someone was killing you and because he shot in the direction that it could have hit children after deciding to reenter the house.

 

[Something Wicked]

Example?

I seems like every thread involving some court case and an African American on this site, though it's certainly not limited to NeoGaf or the internet. The most notable example would be the OJ Simpson case. Many African Americans seem to defend other African Americans without looking at the evidence and scenarios behind the cases. Groupthink in African Americans communities is painfully obvious.

I can understand historically why this exists, but it's 2012, not 1952, and racism is not holding back most Africans Americans from achieving their goals or, on the other hand, the putting many in jail. Committing illegal acts, like for this story, is what gets people in jail. Now, the sentencing of the illegal acts can be up for debate. In the case, even the minimum seems far too high. If you live in the state Florida, you can call up your state officials them it's too high or start a petition. Playing the race card will only annoy and eventually anger the general public.

The real problem is people like you that constantly want to brush racism under the rug. Until people admit there is a problem with institutional racism the problem will never be dealt with.

So, let me ask, where do you see the racism in this particular case?

Do you believe that the woman was justified in shooting the gun?

If not, do you disagree with the sentence? And you disagree with the law itself, which I guess the minimum would have been 10 years in prison anyway?

"you guys"

Yeah man that really shows me your level of education on social issues and minorities. You don't know shit about black people, your generalization was shit and the mentality of lassoing black gaffers into one hive mind is shit.

Ripclawe would be offended.

Are you really that sensitive? And I meant "you guys" as in "you Neogaf guys" and not implying race at all. If anything, it's slightly sexist to assume that some girls in here approve of being apart of the "guys." I hope they'll forgive them.

Dude, you were basically calling people racist for them saying that a women, who happens to be black, unnecessarily fired gun and that it's illegal. Do you think is acceptable to be so brazen about instituting people are racist anytime someone says something negative about a person, who happens to be African American? You're the one being offensive, buddy.

 

[DY_nasty]

And what I'm seeing is many people (of which many I know or I think are black) defending African Americans in a court case regardless of the circumstances. If she had killed some one with the stray bullet, I bet still some of you guys here would defend the woman. Playing the race card is extremely annoying and can breed racist attitudes itself on the other direction.

Her warning shot was unnecessary, potentially very dangerous, and certainly illegal. It would be illegal in every state and I assume most other countries. However, the real debate should be about this Floridan law's min and max years for the sentencing. Many people have already made that point in a respectful and logical manner.

yeah because us niggers gotta stick together through thick and thin

And I'm the same guy who even called out others in the trayvon thread for trying to turn it into race thing instead of a vigilante display.

Just lay it all out there that you're tired of black people playing the victim card and how a fat black girl didn't tip you after her thuggish husband demanded she swallow forty potatoes while celebrating her acceptance to college through affirmative action.

 

[soundahfekz]

yeah because us niggers gotta stick together through thick and thin

And I'm the same guy who even called out others in the trayvon thread for trying to turn it into race thing instead of a vigilante display.

Just lay it all out there that you're tired of black people playing the victim card and how a fat black girl didn't tip you after her thuggish husband demanded she swallow forty potatoes while celebrating her acceptance to college through affirmative action.

Racism is over man. All you people who keep talking about racism are just racist and bitter and want to whine and be coddled by society. People wouldn't be racist if you stopped talking about racism I don't see how you guys don't understand that.

I mean we have a black president ffs

 

[Slayven]

yeah because us niggers gotta stick together through thick and thin

And I'm the same guy who even called out others in the trayvon thread for trying to turn it into race thing instead of a vigilante display.

Just lay it all out there that you're tired of black people playing the victim card and how a fat black girl didn't tip you after her thuggish husband demanded she swallow forty potatoes while celebrating her acceptance to college through affirmative action.

Her underachieving thuggish husband.

 

[DY_nasty]

"Its not 1952"?

Really guy?

Give me a fucking break... its one thing to simply be ignorant to shit, but to try and spout off like you have some complete understanding of some shit that obviously only crosses your mind when a thread's property value starts to drop just screams "not only do I have NO clue what I'm talking about, but I don't even give a fuck about who I'm about to offend"

 

[Big Baybee]

20 years in jail is fucking horseshit. SMH.

 

[Vicetrailia]

20 years in jail is incredibly saddening. She shouldn't be in jail.

 

[Something Wicked]

yeah because us niggers gotta stick together through thick and thin

And I'm the same guy who even called out others in the trayvon thread for trying to turn it into race thing instead of a vigilante display.

Just lay it all out there that you're tired of black people playing the victim card and how a fat black girl didn't tip you after her thuggish husband demanded she swallow forty potatoes while celebrating her acceptance to college through affirmative action.

Racism is over man. All you people who keep talking about racism are just racist and bitter and want to whine and be coddled by society. People wouldn't be racist if you stopped talking about racism I don't see how you guys don't understand that.

I mean we have a black president ffs

"Its not 1952"?

Really guy?

Give me a fucking break... its one thing to simply be ignorant to shit, but to try and spout off like you have some complete understanding of some shit that obviously only crosses your mind when a thread's property value starts to drop just screams "not only do I have NO clue what I'm talking about, but I don't even give a fuck about who I'm about to offend"

Quite defensive, are we? I thought my tone was conciliatory and respectful, but we're adults and should be able to discuss sensitive issues without getting overly emotional. I'm generally not comfortable with talking about race, but soundahfekz went over the top and needed to be called out on it.

 

[DY_nasty]

Quite defensive, are we? I thought my tone was conciliatory and respectful, but we're adults and should be able to discuss sensitive issues without getting overly emotional. I'm generally not comfortable with talking about race, but soundahfekz went over the top and needed to be called out on it.

Get over yourself. There was nothing respectful about your shitty generalization or proud display of ignorance.

 

[Kettch]

But that's why she was charged and convicted. If you want it changed you should make Florida change their laws. The only reason it was pursued was because she reentered the house instead of fleeing which they thought was inconsistent with her fearing for her life because you wouldn't go back to where you thought someone was killing you and because he shot in the direction that it could have hit children after deciding to reenter the house.

Again, it doesn't seem that she ever left the house. The garage was connected to the house and she claims the door failed to open.

 

[Satch]

Quite defensive, are we? I thought my tone was conciliatory and respectful, but we're adults and should be able to discuss sensitive issues without getting overly emotional. I'm generally not comfortable with talking about race, but soundahfekz went over the top and needed to be called out on it.

If you're "generally not comfortable with talking about race", then you should have left it alone. It's fairly obvious that you have very little idea of what you're talking about, as evidenced by your bootstrap-leaning comment about 1952. If you want to talk statistics with regard to how racism disproportionately affects minorities in this country, then by all means we can do that, but you don't get to type a bunch of incredibly false words on a discussion board and get away with it.

As for your comment about "you guys" being sexist: well, don't speak for me. I don't need somebody that would be so ignorant as to make comments about "race cards" and "African American Groupthink" to even begin to suggest how I should react to the phrase.

Don't start thinking you're some sort of expert on social behavior just because "1984" is fresh on your tongue.

 

[soundahfekz]

Quite defensive, are we? I thought my tone was conciliatory and respectful, but we're adults and should be able to discuss sensitive issues without getting overly emotional. I'm generally not comfortable with talking about race, but soundahfekz went over the top and needed to be called out on it.

and you were the one that called me out? Sure showed me.

Dont make my piss my pants laughing man.

Respectful. Conciliatory. Did your phone autocorrect those words from willfully ignorant and condescending?

 

[Something Wicked]

Get over yourself. There was nothing respectful about your shitty generalization or proud display of ignorance.

I'm not being ignorant. I'm being objective. Many groups and communities are negatively affected by hivemind thinking, not just the African American community (which as the AA middle and upper income classes continue to increase, the propensity for unconditional unity will hopefully diminish).

Also, you can't just bully people into believing your shitty opinions.

 

[Lebron]

If you're "generally not comfortable with talking about race", then you should have left it alone. It's fairly obvious that you have very little idea of what you're talking about, as evidenced by your bootstrap-leaning comment about 1952. If you want to talk statistics with regard to how racism disproportionately affects minorities in this country, then by all means we can do that, but you don't get to type a bunch of incredibly false words on a discussion board and get away with it.

As for your comment about "you guys" being sexist: well, don't speak for me. I don't need somebody that would be so ignorant as to make comments about "race cards" and "African American Groupthink" to even begin to suggest how I should react to the phrase.

Don't start thinking you're some sort of expert on social behavior just because "1984" is fresh on your tongue.

Ice Ice Baby

 

[soundahfekz]

I'm not being ignorant. I'm being objective. Many groups and communities are negatively affected by hivemind thinking, not just the African American community (which as the AA middle and upper income classes continue to increase, the propensity for unconditional unity will hopefully diminish).

Also, you can't just bully people into believing your shitty opinions.

Objective? Oh not another one of those.

I love the whole " I'm totally saying blacks are hivemind amongst other groups" assertion. You should probably stop posting while you're able to by choice.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I think if she didnt go out to get the gun she would have gotten a lesser sentence or not be charged.

 

[DY_nasty]

I'm not being ignorant. I'm being objective. Many groups and communities are negatively affected by hivemind thinking, not just the African American community (which as the AA middle and upper income classes continue to increase, the propensity for unconditional unity will hopefully diminish).

Also, you can't just bully people into believing your shitty opinions.

You want to be objective. You keep proving you're lost. Hivemind?

Really?

This is the part where you stop, take a deep breath, and recall that just a few minutes ago you remembered that race discussion just isn't your thing.

 

[Something Wicked]

If you're "generally not comfortable with talking about race", then you should have left it alone. It's fairly obvious that you have very little idea of what you're talking about, as evidenced by your bootstrap-leaning comment about 1952. If you want to talk statistics with regard to how racism disproportionately affects minorities in this country, then by all means we can do that, but you don't get to type a bunch of incredibly false words on a discussion board and get away with it.

As for your comment about "you guys" being sexist: well, don't speak for me. I don't need somebody that would be so ignorant as to make comments about "race cards" and "African American Groupthink" to even begin to suggest how I should react to the phrase.

Don't start thinking you're some sort of expert on social behavior just because "1984" is fresh on your tongue.

No, why should I cower and let people wantonly insult me? I'm not going to be emotional about it, since I'm not that sensitive, especially about some idiot who fired a gun when it was completely unnecessary to do so in state with very strict "gun firing" laws. But I do get a little ticked when people think they can essentially call people racists here when they are obviously not racists.

Also, I think George Orwell was an idiot and the people that continually blather on how "this is just like 1984!" when protesting (usually) reasonable government actions/policies are hypocritically creating an unnecessary scapegoat and state of fear.

Objective? Oh not another one of those.

I love the whole " I'm totally saying blacks are hivemind amongst other groups" assertion. You should probably stop posting while you're able to by choice.

I'll stop posting because these off-topic pissing matches ruin threads (granted, it was a shitty thread to begin with due to the misleading title). However, I know I'm speaking too truthfully for some, such as yourself, as people don't get this defensive, unless something truthful hits their core beliefs.

You want to be objective. You keep proving you're lost. Hivemind?

Really?

This is the part where you stop, take a deep breath, and recall that just a few minutes ago you remembered that race discussion just isn't your thing.

Race discussions aren't my thing, since it's a sensitive subject (meaning it's ultra-sensitive on GAF) and I actually don't like offending many people along as they're being respectful and have reasonable views. But, I don't like seeing people bully others and inappropriately using the race/ethnicity/gender/religion, etc. card.

 

[DY_nasty]

You just spouted some bullshit you clearly know nothing about and offended a bunch of people with your ignorance.

Just man up and move on. Or you can cling to the e-pride and pretend that your generalizations and base knowledge is correct and that people are calling you out just because we can't control our black aggression.

 

[Satch]

No, why should I cower and let people wantonly insult me? I'm not going to be emotional about it, since I'm not that sensitive, especially about some idiot who fired a gun when it was completely unnecessary to do so in state with very strict "gun firing" laws. But I do get a little ticked when people think they can essentially call people racists here when they are obviously not racists.

You don't have to cower or let people wantonly insult you, but if you're going to respond, then you'd do well to have some sort of facts beyond your silly biases to substantiate the repugnant claims you've made in this thread. You can learn that skill on your high school debate team - you should sign up when the next school year arrives.

 

[Something Wicked]

You don't have to cower or let people wantonly insult you, but if you're going to respond, then you'd do well to have some sort of facts beyond your silly biases to substantiate the repugnant claims you've made in this thread. You can learn that skill on your high school debate team - you should sign up when the next school year arrives.

Specifically state which of my claims are repugnant. Please, quote it and explain why they are indeed "repugnant."

You just spouted some bullshit you clearly know nothing about and offended a bunch of people with your ignorance.

Just man up and move on. Or you can cling to the e-pride and pretend that your generalizations and base knowledge is correct and that people are calling you out just because we can't control our black aggression

Yeah, I'll leave without crying to another thread that the big meany Something Wicked was being "ignorant." As for me, this is only... Tuesday.

 

[DY_nasty]

Specially state which of my claims are repugnant. Please, quote it and explain why they are indeed "repugnant.".

You were quoted multiple times.

Goddamn dude. Its okay to be wrong. Just don't be a schmuck about it and crawl up your own ass after the fact.

 

[Chumly]

I seems like every thread involving some court case and an African American on this site, though it's certainly not limited to NeoGaf or the internet. The most notable example would be the OJ Simpson case. Many African Americans seem to defend other African Americans without looking at the evidence and scenarios behind the cases. Groupthink in African Americans communities is painfully obvious.

I can understand historically why this exists, but it's 2012, not 1952, and racism is not holding back most Africans Americans from achieving their goals or, on the other hand, the putting many in jail. Committing illegal acts, like for this story, is what gets people in jail. Now, the sentencing of the illegal acts can be up for debate. In the case, even the minimum seems far too high. If you live in the state Florida, you can call up your state officials them it's too high or start a petition. Playing the race card will only annoy and eventually anger the general public.






So, let me ask, where do you see the racism in this particular case?

Do you believe that the woman was justified in shooting the gun?

If not, do you disagree with the sentence? And you disagree with the law itself, which I guess the minimum would have been 10 years in prison anyway?





Are you really that sensitive? And I meant "you guys" as in "you Neogaf guys" and not implying race at all. If anything, it's slightly sexist to assume that some girls in here approve of being apart of the "guys." I hope they'll forgive them.

Dude, you were basically calling people racist for them saying that a women, who happens to be black, unnecessarily fired gun and that it's illegal. Do you think is acceptable to be so brazen about instituting people are racist anytime someone says something negative about a person, who happens to be African American? You're the one being offensive, buddy.

Institutional racism. Look it up. The only person being hurt by reality is you. You don't think its wrong that minorities are in jails at disproportionate rates? Get disproportionate amount of jail time? The people that get angry about the "race card" being played at the same people that were full blown racist 30-40 years ago. Now they have passed it down to their kids who desperately will try and defend the mentality. Racism is gone. Black people get over it.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Specifically state which of my claims are repugnant. Please, quote it and explain why they are indeed "repugnant."

It's right here on the page. Half a dozen people called you out on your narrow-minded bullshit. Just scroll up a bit, you'll see it.