miscarriage soup? what a douche
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Guy Says Rude Thing to Person, Gets Fired From Destructoid, Says More Rude Things
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miscarriage soup? what a douche
ClassyPenguin
Banned
eh, it's about any male dominated industry.
You can't be a female and be in a male industry without being a whore, is basically is what it comes down to.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
I;m curious why people on a gaming forum have issues with the idea of gaming culture or don't know what gaming culture might encompass?
ClassyPenguin
Banned
eh, it's about any male dominated industry.
You can't be a female and be in a male industry without being a whore, is basically is what it comes down to.
Even though Uncharted and Portal proved it
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Game journalists, stop embarrassing me.
I spend enough time doing that myself.
Don't most sites include some sort of "The opinions shared by whoever, whatever, whenever, or more specifically, the people who work/worked here, may not be the opinions shared by us."
And it seems like he said this stuff on his own twitter account -- which puts it totally outside the domain of any jobs business. Now people may fire you if you post something on the internet?
I don't condone randomly insulting people, but to fire someone for uttering an opinion on the internet is very bad. Might just be a troll, cause it sounds like it.
And it seems like he said this stuff on his own twitter account -- which puts it totally outside the domain of any jobs business. Now people may fire you if you post something on the internet?
I don't condone randomly insulting people, but to fire someone for uttering an opinion on the internet is very bad. Might just be a troll, cause it sounds like it.
PedroPanache
Member
I just quite like the fact that the person at the centre of all this hasn't engaged in this farce whatsoever. I think that says alot for the cult of outrage that seems to crop up whenever something like this happens. If the person at the centre of all this clearly doesn't give a shit what some random nobody on twitter said to her, then really why should you?
Yes. That's solely at the discretion of your employer. Just because it's something done off of the job doesn't mean you can't be held liable for it. How do you not know this?
wonderdung
Member
Because famous + nice looking + geek girl = whiteknighters all over.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
The same thing could be said on any tabloid site which descructoid seems to distance with,
ClassyPenguin
Banned
Yes! Exactly that.
Gaming press and followers are the same people who like evolutionary psychology and other pseudo stuff like that.
Why did you reply to the same exact post three times?
It's not a violation to offend someone on Twitter, and I'm guessing his employer didn't find some law that supported anything like it. I live in Norway though, maybe it's different in America, but to me, this just seems logica -- but maybe it's similar here too. I thought you had to basically commit a crime to get rightfully fired, unless hired by some private company with no contract.
I usually only engage in these kinds of topics (News of people doing stuff; something bad, nice, or neutral.) if I thought it was interesting, or I could learn something new, or, usually, because I'm fascinated by human behaviour (The original story, and the people who respond, their opinions, how diverse they are, can be interesting at times.)
If you do something that makes your company look bad, regardless of whether it's on or off the job, you can expect to the reprimanded for it. If someone in a Norwegian company went off on a racist rant on their personal twitter they wouldn't be fired for it?
PedroPanache
Member
He did commit a crime. He said a bad thing to someone on twitter. Not only that he said it to a girl. A poor defenseless girl with no way of being able to defend herself against his wicked barbs. He had to go, there was just no other way.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
Because I am drunk, which doesn't the original drunk postings, So, being drunk excuses you for misspellings but not being a douche is all.
You definitely don't have to commit a crime to get fired and I think that goes for most countries. You could for example, suck at your job, fail to fulfill the terms of your contract, violate a specific clause in your contract, behave poorly on the job, bring negative attention to your employer, etc and so forth. Not saying his firing was justified but you definitely don't have to commit a crime to get fired.
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
If you think the only way to get fired of a job is comitting a crime, or that your company wouldn't mind anything you say as long as you don't do it at your job, you really should read some more about issues like this.
Like many other racist, homophobic, sexist, and dozens of other remarks. LOL He is just trolling! Don't you know, he is friends with a comedian? Don't you know, he is just doing it for the hits? Don't you know, we have a thousand excuses to protect it.
SolidSnakex
Member
Here's 13 other stories involving people that were fired for something that they said on Twitter
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/15/fired-over-twitter-tweets_n_645884.html
You'll also find athletes being fined for comments on Twitter. Carmelo Anthony was recently fined 50k for making a homophobic comment on Twitter.
We know that, but why does Sterling have a job still when he has said way worse?
NathanMcMahon
Banned
satire
It does not sound likely.. but I don't know the corporate laws well. You can easily claim that you don't remember writing that, or a friend wrote it.
Sure, the company that you are describing would surely claim that it doesn't matter, as the Twitter account is your responsibility. But then you might claim otherwise, and demand that they list the specifics of the crimes and which law it breaks or something like that. Chatroom, forum, blog, open blog, friend blog, private blog, etc, are all different, and I don't think the laws have caught up yet. Twitter has even more rules, no ?
Or maybe you could claim that your autospelling corrected certain words.
Probably because he's higher up than just an intern.
It does not sound likely.. but I don't know the corporate laws well. You can easily claim that you don't remember writing that, or a friend wrote it.
Sure, the company that you are describing would surely claim that it doesn't matter, as the Twitter account is your responsibility. But then you might claim otherwise, and demand that they list the specifics of the crimes and which law it breaks or something like that. Chatroom, forum, blog, open blog, friend blog, private blog, etc, are all different, and I don't think the laws have caught up yet. Twitter has even more rules, no ?
Or maybe you could claim that your autospelling corrected certain words.
I didn't realize it was so easy to get away with shit in Norway.
Spiffy_1st
Member
I just did some googling, and she drew a picture, but tinypic is banned so I can't link it. It's pretty weird, it's Jim with penises all over him.
Then he called her a slut. It's one of those things where both people are stupid, but saying he's sexist for it is a bit much.
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
Because life isn't fair and as someone else said there's a thousand of ridiculous made up excuses to cover his ass because he gets them hits, as opposed to this guy (I assume). Not something I agree with, tells you something about the maturity of the industry if that guy still gets paid to say more shit without at least having had an apology.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
That's weak, I mean I have a lot of reasons to be not a fan of Catholic Church, but being a douche is not.
#idontwanttoliveonthisplanetanymore
Well, I'm reading now - I wasn't that interested in it/thought about it before, but it sounded very weird that he got fired for something like this.
Would that mean that you would not be allowed to officially appear as a member of certain websites that would make a powerful statement, either? Since that would probably be worse for the business than a statement directed towards someone. And when a job is allowed to determine where I can register, or not register, or what I'm allowed to publically like, then I think it is starting to sound a lot like a bad place.
And I meant, specifically, insulting (Not evil or cruel insulting either.) a chick or guy at Twitter - it wouldn't extend beyond that. But still, I would think that it would require several incidents along with some really mean statements.
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I'm not sure if any of those have been done. It's just silly excuses that might work against the argument of your boss trying to fire you because you insulted your ex, or a friend, or a stranger.
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Deleted member 81567
Unconfirmed Member
Destructoid fucked up big time.
Although Perez does sound like a baby.
Although Perez does sound like a baby.
AwakenedCloud
Member
Seems extreme to fire someone over that, they make these kind of comments in Bombcast all the time.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
The gaming industry is shit, And this is another reason for it to be it.
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
Even if the company doesn't share the views of its employees, very few people would want to be associated with people who openly express highly questionable, unprofessional stuff. Granted, it's pretty hilarious this guy gets fired but Sterling doesn't, though they are separate issues and one being worse doesn't make this one good.
I do consider it a bit extreme, but understandable. There are many cases of people being fired from using slurs on Twitter or posting party pics in Facebook.
Speedymanic
Banned
I'd say voice actors have a big impact on video games, but it all depends on the VA and the game.
For example, can you imagine a MP game without James McCaffrey or a Hitman game without Bateson ( a soon to be realized horror).
It all depends on the game and their performance.
As for this chick, hate her. She ruined that episode of Supernatural she was in. Goddamn sucky actress, can't begin to imagine how much worse her VA is.
At will employment. You can be fired in America for being seen at the grocery story in a green shirt. Or for preferring Coke to Pepsi. Or for mostly any other reason.
EscoBlades
Ubisoft Marketing
And...?
Now see, this is a woman that isn't a "glorified booth babe" because she's in the trenches with the rest of the developers (mostly male) and looking into polishing/creating visions like the Assassin's Creed series' launch.
Felicia Day may do voice acting, but anyone can lend their voice
and I'm not knocking well done voice-acting, I'm just saying
I think he does have a point in asking what she brings to the industry a little bit, but not in that tone. It should've been a more inquisitive "what exactly do you do, Felicia?" and probably gotten a lot less fire for asking it that way.
In fact, I'd go as far as say the same for Jessica Chobot, but that's another discussion entirely. Point is, the industry seems to glorify some women simply because they're women and they "game" instead of trying to bring them on their merits. Of course, the industry also pulls this on males with "rockstars" like Cliffy, but Cliffy has some games to back up his "Tony Stark" appearance.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
Being rude to a contemporary industry person is very different from being on another sponsor.
Why does her contribution or lack thereof to the gaming industry matter?
SolidSnakex
Member
But why even ask her the question? Has she ever said that she makes major contributions to the industry? If he has a problem with the fact that she's often hired to appear on game related shows, then go take it up with the people that hire her. You can't expect her to turn down those jobs when it's for an industry that she enjoys.
Because it's a good question? It may not be appropriate, but it is a question. And you missed my edit, I'm just tired of the industry propping women up simply because they're women. The industry also has an issue with women in the workplace with issues like this question even being stated in that tone and how some women catch flak in the workplace for being a woman.
I think it should really be rebalanced to where it's more "who gives a shit" about the gender and more on the merits of the person. Which is where I was going with that.
Bingo. There's no burden placed upon her to 'prove herself' or to prove that she makes a contribution to gaming or whatever... it's never felt to me as if she claims to 'represent gaming' or take any position that would impose any such requirement.