Doesn't seem like all the many have an issue with the guy getting fired. He went on a random, unprovoked rant about an internet gaming personality. The conversation is more about the bizarre and rabid reaction of those needlessly coming to her defense.
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Guy Says Rude Thing to Person, Gets Fired From Destructoid, Says More Rude Things
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Doesn't seem like all the many have an issue with the guy getting fired. He went on a random, unprovoked rant about an internet gaming personality. The conversation is more about the bizarre and rabid reaction of those needlessly coming to her defense.
I mean, I agree that Felicia Day is annoying and uses her faux geek person for monetary gain, but I'm not gonna go on twitter and harass her about her. I just ignore everything she participates in my life is better for it.
As someone who has actually shipped video games I don't consider her or any who works in the games enthusiast press as part of the games industry.
As someone who has actually shipped video games I don't consider her or any who works in the games enthusiast press as part of the games industry.
Seriously Holmes rocks. But I can't stand Dtoid, wish Holmes could get a job that pays big. Cool guy!Poor Jonathan Holmes
IdreamofHIME
Member
Now I know why Sheldon Cooper hates Wheaton.
Oh yeah trending on Twitter is massive for a site like dtoid.
Same man I can't take sites community its like a more mature 4chan, if that makes any sense lol. And I am mostly talking about the comments on articles to be fair.
It really is embarrassing - all because Day is 'pretty' (in the eyes of many) and a gamer. I'll bet if the same was said of Kurtz (of the webcomic PvP), on-one would bat an eye-lid, despite the level of creative contribution from both Day and Kurtz is around the same.
Are female gamers really that rare to these knee-jerkers?
Are female gamers really that rare to these knee-jerkers?
No they really are not solid, in any way at all. I love some of people that work there. But the mixture of horrid community / sterling really makes it one of those places I cannot visit.
John Holmes
Alistair
Max
Conrad
All really are awesome people.
Koroviev
Member
I think most of the content is fine. Pretty standard. Most comment sections are poorly moderated cesspools.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
It's not that he was rude to someone in the Geek Industry.
It's that he apparently is simply an asshole.
Hell, at first, I applauded him for asking that question about Day, but then I continued reading and realized he just doesn't fucking know how to write.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Not for nothing, but I feel like the Dragon Age Felicia Day DLC thing was pretty much the tipping point for "geek girl" culture.
Well, maybe Chobot in Mass Effect 3 tops that... but it's awfully close.
That said, there's actually no reason to be a douche about it.
Well, maybe Chobot in Mass Effect 3 tops that... but it's awfully close.
That said, there's actually no reason to be a douche about it.
What he said was a bit unprofessional and probably deserved some form of discipline though being terminated I think is a little too severe. It sucks for him to be fired for being unprofessional as being unprofessional seems to all to common for the numerous pr shills that are in the game journalism industry.
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The Gaming Industry
Don't care for anybody involved in this. The dude worded his tweet wrong boo hoo. Destructoid pretends they are some group of professionals. D-list celebs come to the rescue of the damsel in distress. Fortunately she is a grown women who can talk for herself so the white knights end up just looking dumb.
In the end this Felecia person comes out looking like the only decent person only because she hasnt responded yet regardless if anything she does is worthwhile.
ps. Wil Wheaton? Really? The dude who played the whiny scrub in Star Trek? Nuff said
The Gaming Industry
Don't care for anybody involved in this. The dude worded his tweet wrong boo hoo. Destructoid pretends they are some group of professionals. D-list celebs come to the rescue of the damsel in distress. Fortunately she is a grown women who can talk for herself so the white knights end up just looking dumb.
In the end this Felecia person comes out looking like the only decent person only because she hasnt responded yet regardless if anything she does is worthwhile.
ps. Wil Wheaton? Really? The dude who played the whiny scrub in Star Trek? Nuff said
Acquiescence
Member
Unprofessionalism is the fuel that keeps the Destructoid train chugging along. This guy probably thought he was just doing the job required of a Destructoid writer, only to find out too late that dissing video game royalty was one step too far.
The people saying shit like this should really do a search for references to people who slam someone like Jaffe or Kurtz. Those guys get bombed by their fans every bit as much as Day's fans lambasted this idiot.
Sorry, this "drunk" idiot.
There are "white knights" for anyone with a fanbase. Acting like that's not the case just to try and make some point about females being off-limits for criticism (like this was even criticism in the first place) is disingenuous at best.
Acquiescence
Member
I likes me a bit of Eurogamer.
Dude needn't have been sacked.
I don't visit Destructoid at all any more. Since I discovered Gaf really. Sterling used to make me laugh, but I just thoughgt he was a joke character, like Zero Punctuation. I loved Jonathan Holmes's enthusiasm and looked forward to reading his reviews.
But that site is a fucking nightmare. Slow and shit. And as for their new tablet UI. Useless.
I don't visit Destructoid at all any more. Since I discovered Gaf really. Sterling used to make me laugh, but I just thoughgt he was a joke character, like Zero Punctuation. I loved Jonathan Holmes's enthusiasm and looked forward to reading his reviews.
But that site is a fucking nightmare. Slow and shit. And as for their new tablet UI. Useless.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Man acting unprofessionally getting the sack shocker.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
neogaf.com
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
I think it's mostly the Jim Sterling thing, it's just blatant trolling and very juvenile, the only reason they keep him around is for the hits they get whenever he posts something against the grain and everyone links it saying how ridiculous it is.
It's just my personal opinion, although a lot of GAF seems to hate Kotaku/Destructoid it seems.
Personally I just realized how Nero runs that place, and I did not like it one bit. The entire thing is fueled by Sterling's trolling at this point. Which really sucks because like I said they have some honestly awesome people working there.
As far as Felicia Day is concerned btw I am a fan, I find it hard to see how anyone could have a problem with her. She seems funny, humble, and comes across as a good person to me. There are so many more douche bags in this industry that people should focus their rage on, if they have to rage at all that is. Men and Women.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
The way she's being pushed just feels patronizing. Almost like when Jade Raymond was portrayed as the singular force behind the first AC game. It's as if they assume that people who play games haven't spoken to a girl before or something.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
There are plenty of people on NeoGAF who read Destructoid.
But I think if you were to ask the community as a whole, you'd find that Andriasang (Japanese news), RockPaperShotgun (PC news), The Verge, Eurogamer, Edge, Go Nintendo (Nintendo), and Giantbomb have generally positive reputations.
I think you'd find that Destructoid, VG247, Kotaku, Joystiq, Game Informer, IGN, and GamesRadar have generally negative reputations.
(These don't 100% line up with my assessment, but you seem to be asking what the GAF community as a whole thinks)
I can see that. Just personally I have zero problem with her.
Leigh Alexander / Jessica Chobot on the other hand .....
Really?
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
I was with you up until your last sentence which implied everyone that dislikes Day dislikes women.
Thanks for calling me sexist.
sonikokaruto
Banned
Felicia should have said "apology accepted, though i don't know who you are"
And then it's all done.
But you're watching white knighting in grand scale. Good job internet!
:/
And then it's all done.
But you're watching white knighting in grand scale. Good job internet!
:/
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I would say that among the portion of GAF's community that cares about Nintendo news, Go Nintendo has a pretty good reputation. I can't think of any other Nintendo site that has a better one. Certainly it's more well liked than NintendoEverything. NintendoLife and NintendoWorldReport both have good reputations but are significantly smaller in reach.
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
What's with this forum and the obsession with "white knights"
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
50% Knee Jerk Reaction.
50% people mistaking saying something good about Topic X as defending it. It's the same principal behind people having to suffix every post with "but EA/Activision still sucks".
Level-5 makes shitty games, and sometimes the stench from that sticks.
FleckSplat
Member
Ryan Perez said:
Don't blame us. Blame yourself or God.
Phonomezer
Banned
Seriously.
It's bad that he got given the arse, but what other industry would put up with that kind of behaviour?
shinra-bansho
Member
On the one hand it's a stupid thing to do.
On the other hand, it seems like a ridiculous thing to fire someone for.
On the other hand, it seems like a ridiculous thing to fire someone for.
You can say the same thing about nearly every gaming personality and/or journalist. None of them have made significant contributions to the industry, nor should that even matter.
Why does Felicia Day have to be held to some higher standard in order to be accepted? It should simply be that you either like or dislike the persons work.
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Deleted member 10571
Unconfirmed Member
Oh god yes. This made normal discussions about anything involving women totally pointless, especially during the last few weeks/months. If you're on one side, you're some sort of rape-culture-ist (?), if you're on the other side, you're a White Knight.
Also, I like what Felicia Day has done so far, be it acting, singing or voice-acting. She's done more to actually help Gaming than most reviewers out there. That guy's a total ass, but so is half of Destructoid's staff, and he shouldn't get fired for that single comment.
Apparently anyone who isn't female and calls out misogynism (I'm not talking about this thread specifically) is a "white knight". It's an easy way of dismissing a topic that makes some people uncomfortable.
sonikokaruto
Banned
... I'd rather be a white knight. Or a mexican-knight. Oraleee essè!
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Not to piss on my previous post, but Felicia Day's fanbase (which is really just an extension of Joss Whedon's fanbase) is fucking crazy.
TheNamelessOne
Member
Neither should less be expected from her because of her gender.
LOL whatttt? I don't even remember seeing you post in this thread dude.
Seriously ....
and if I wanted to call you sexist, I would just do that. I am not one to be passive aggressive lol. Sorry if I offended you, but not really since I didn't even know you where in this thread. I've been quoting a lot of people in here, so if I did quote you btw it was based off comments not your user name.
Looked back no I did not quote you. Not sure how you think I am calling you sexist at all. I mean't there are plenty of douche bags in this industry, both men and women (who are douche bags ... ). So if people are going to rage, they should go after the "douche bags" in the industry, not people like Felicia Day who are perfectly nice people.
Anyway ....
Well the discussion here is about Felicia Day but I'd probably agree with this if it was said about someone else who's work is of a similar vain to Felicia Day.
CielTynave
Member
Yeah i don't know much about this particular case, the term "white knight" obviously has legitimate uses too, but on gaf it's almost always a knee-jerk reaction in any gender-related debate.
felicia day's contribution to gaming shouldn't be underestimated. she's done voice acting. for games. that's more than most of you lot.
then again, Jade Raymond actually makes a difference in video games, so she's not all that and then some.
and tera Patrick also did voice acting in video games. so day's impact on games is on the same level as a porn star.
do voice actors have an impact on video games?
you'd think gamers and wallets have more impact...
then again, Jade Raymond actually makes a difference in video games, so she's not all that and then some.
and tera Patrick also did voice acting in video games. so day's impact on games is on the same level as a porn star.
do voice actors have an impact on video games?
you'd think gamers and wallets have more impact...