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Donnie

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Eww, that doesn't look good at all... :(

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10k

Banned
I'm trying to think of third party games that aren't available on PC that I bought this gen and which developers were north American or Japanese:

Mortal Kombat (NA)
Bayonetta (JAP)
Final Fantasy XIII (JAP)
Final Fantasy XIII-2 (JAP)
Metal Gear Solid HD collection (JAP)
Metal Gear Solid 4 (JAP)
MadWorld (JAP)
Zack and Wiki (JAP)
All of EA's sports games I buy on consoles instead of PC so I will count NHL and FIFA as (NA)
Tales of Graces f (JAP)
Arc Rise Fantasia (JAP)

Wow, I never realized how many Japanese games I buy (and that doesn't count Nintendo first nd second party games).

I guess my point is, as a PC and Nintendo gamer, I care mostly about Japanese third party support with only a few western third parties making my list (Netherrealm and EA Sports being the exception).
 

SmokeMaxX

Member
So I saw a factsheet (not sure how recent) saying the Wii U will have 2 USB ports and no ethernet port. Is that correct?
I'm huge fan of Nintendo, but they're really screwing themselves if they do that. Wired > Wifi and if I have to buy an ethernet adapter, I won't be able to plug two wired controllers into the system.
 

Comandr

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So I saw a factsheet (not sure how recent) saying the Wii U will have 2 USB ports and no ethernet port. Is that correct?
I'm huge fan of Nintendo, but they're really screwing themselves if they do that. Wired > Wifi and if I have to buy an ethernet adapter, I won't be able to plug two wired controllers into the system.

The Wii didn't have an ethernet port. I don't feel like 6 years later, when even less people are on wired connections, Nintendo would go backwards to offer a wired connection port-- more reliable or not.
 

tkscz

Member
The Wii didn't have an ethernet port. I don't feel like 6 years later, when even less people are on wired connections, Nintendo would go backwards to offer a wired connection port-- more reliable or not.

I doubt that. With the already lack of air space for current wirelessness, I can see wired connections booming in a year or two.
 

Comandr

Member
I doubt that. With the already lack of air space for current wirelessness, I can see wired connections booming in a year or two.

Pardon my ignorance, but can you clarify what you mean on lack of air space? Isn't that what dual band routers are for? Put the microwave and the fridge and the dog collar on one and put the computer, and some the other major wireless electronics on the other?

http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/features/wi-fi.html
 

Meelow

Banned
Third party games at there Fall Conference that I wish/hope is announced...

Resident Evil 6
Lost Planet 3
DmC: Devil May Cry
Devil's Third
Tomb Raider
BioShock Infinite
Watch Dogs
Grand Theft Auto V
Star Trek 2013
Insane
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist
Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs
Final Fantasy Versus XIII

Yeah I am going to be disappointed lol.
 

SmokeMaxX

Member
The Wii didn't have an ethernet port. I don't feel like 6 years later, when even less people are on wired connections, Nintendo would go backwards to offer a wired connection port-- more reliable or not.

If they want it to have a viable online, they'll offer a wired connection. I live in Arkansas and if you're not inside a major city (pretty much just Little Rock), you're probably getting low single digit download speed and maximum of 1-2 Mb/s upload. In theory that SHOULD be fast enough to run most games, but when you factor in wireless interference, instability of signal, distance to servers, etc., online gaming is far from optimal.

Just bizarre that they'd cater to CRT users with the Wii but not cater to wired internet users. HDTVs is something everyone everywhere CAN enjoy while stable fast internet is not.
 

10k

Banned
Third party games at there Fall Conference that I wish/hope is announced...

Resident Evil 6
Lost Planet 3
DmC: Devil May Cry
Devil's Third
Tomb Raider
BioShock Infinite
Watch Dogs
Grand Theft Auto V
Star Trek 2013
Insane
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist
Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs
Final Fantasy Versus XIII

Yeah I am going to be disappointed lol.
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A bottle of antidepressants has been shipped :p
 

Earendil

Member
If they want it to have a viable online, they'll offer a wired connection. I live in Arkansas and if you're not inside a major city (pretty much just Little Rock), you're probably getting low single digit download speed and maximum of 1-2 Mb/s upload. In theory that SHOULD be fast enough to run most games, but when you factor in wireless interference, instability of signal, distance to servers, etc., online gaming is far from optimal.

Just bizarre that they'd cater to CRT users with the Wii but not cater to wired internet users. HDTVs is something everyone everywhere CAN enjoy while stable fast internet is not.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WY8GW8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
 

jacksrb

Member
Third party games at there Fall Conference that I wish/hope is announced...

Resident Evil 6
Lost Planet 3
DmC: Devil May Cry
Devil's Third
Tomb Raider
BioShock Infinite
Watch Dogs
Grand Theft Auto V
Star Trek 2013
Insane
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist
Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs
Final Fantasy Versus XIII

Yeah I am going to be disappointed lol.

Yeah, you are. Of everything there, I would be most excited to see BioShock Infinite. Also hope to see 007 Legends on Wii U - I really like the single player of GoldenEye better than CoD single player.

I am sure we will see something from Capcom (RE6?), but am surprised we don't know yet.
 

Meelow

Banned
I just kind went crazy with that list so I expect maybe half of that announced lol, that would be the best conference ever if all that was announced though lol.
 

Effect

Member
Third party games at there Fall Conference that I wish/hope is announced...

Resident Evil 6
Lost Planet 3
DmC: Devil May Cry
Devil's Third
Tomb Raider
BioShock Infinite
Watch Dogs
Grand Theft Auto V
Star Trek 2013
Insane
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist
Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs
Final Fantasy Versus XIII

Yeah I am going to be disappointed lol.

Extremely disappointed. I don't think people should get their hopes up at all for the mythical fall conference. They'll more then likely go over what they presented at E3 but try to better manage the presentation. Though I doubt that. We'll likely get operating system information and a tiny bit on the account system as we get near launch and that's it. However I'm prepared to not even get that. I still don't believe they'll launch with the Wii U eShop being ready.
 

tkscz

Member
Pardon my ignorance, but can you clarify what you mean on lack of air space? Isn't that what dual band routers are for? Put the microwave and the fridge and the dog collar on one and put the computer, and some the other major wireless electronics on the other?

http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/features/wi-fi.html

For something like that you would still need a wired connection for the router. But that still takes up air space, it's hard to explain it though.

These explain it much better than I can

http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/spectrum-crunch

http://www.good.is/post/crowded-airspace-we-re-running-out-of-wireless/
 

SmokeMaxX

Member

I have one of those. That's why I asked about the 2 USB ports + no Ethernet.
Let's say I want to play a fighting game (stick requires a wired connection) online (wired so I don't have to worry about lag spikes from interference), what if I need another USB port for something? Charging a controller? Keyboard maybe? Maybe I'm online with a buddy playing the new 2v2 fighting game that requires two sticks. Then I'm out of ports. And there is uncertainty with lag on USB hubs. I mean hell the first gen 360s had more than 2 USB ports and an ethernet port.
 

tkscz

Member
Extremely disappointed. I don't think people should get their hopes up at all for the mythical fall conference. They'll more then likely go over what they presented at E3 but try to better manage the presentation. Though I doubt that. We'll likely get operating system information and a tiny bit on the account system as we get near launch and that's it. However I'm prepared to not even get that. I still don't believe they'll launch with the Wii U eShop being ready.

Yeah I've set my expectations to zero after E3 in regards to "megatons". I'll be happy to just hear about what you mentioned. I hope they have eShop ready though. Nintendo does not need to add any flames to the fire in regards online. Graphics are one thing but if WiiU lacks in the online department...
 

Gahiggidy

My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Why do all of be characters in Zombi U have shaved heads?
 

Earendil

Member
I have one of those. That's why I asked about the 2 USB ports + no Ethernet.
Let's say I want to play a fighting game (stick requires a wired connection) online (wired so I don't have to worry about lag spikes from interference), what if I need another USB port for something? Charging a controller? Keyboard maybe? Maybe I'm online with a buddy playing the new 2v2 fighting game that requires two sticks. Then I'm out of ports. And there is uncertainty with lag on USB hubs. I mean hell the first gen 360s had more than 2 USB ports and an ethernet port.

There's 2 USB ports on the front and 2 on the back.

It's set in England. :)

That explains the bad teeth... lol
 

Sadist

Member
Third party games at there Fall Conference that I wish/hope is announced...

Resident Evil 6
Lost Planet 3
DmC: Devil May Cry
Devil's Third
Tomb Raider
BioShock Infinite
Watch Dogs
Grand Theft Auto V
Star Trek 2013
Insane
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist
Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs
Final Fantasy Versus XIII

Yeah I am going to be disappointed lol.
That's it
 
Gearbox CCO: Borderlands 2 Inventory & Artwork Would Be "Fantastic" On Wii U

Gearbox believes that Borderlands 2 would be a "fantastic" fit for the Wii U, though publisher 2K will apparently be taking a "wait and see" approach when it comes to potentially porting the FPSRPG over to Nintendo's new console.

"We really like the Wii U," Gearbox co-founder and Chief Creative Officer Brian Martel told us after a Borderlands 2 hands-on preview session last week. "I think it's a really cool platform. I like what they're doing - obviously with the touchscreen - and it will be interesting to see what Microsoft do with their approach to that idea. It's one of those problems of the Wii: the only people who have ever made a lot of money on the Wii is Nintendo."

"So we're really excited to bring Aliens: Colonial Marines to it. And we're going to do a wait and see approach, our publisher 2K is going to see whether they're going to go with that."

Should Gearbox and 2K decide to give a Borderlands 2 Wii U port a green light, however, Martel believes that some of its features would be perfectly suited to the platform.

"If Borderlands 2 was on the Wii U, the thing I would be most excited about is inventory management: it would be amazing on that, it would just be fantastic. And I think the artwork would look really good, with the way they can deal with the resolutions and textures, I think it's a really good console."

Gearbox, and Brian Martel specifically, have been praising the Wii U's potential over the last few months. We remain cautiously optimistic ahead of its Christmas launch.

http://www.dealspwn.com/gearbox-cco-borderlands-2-inventory-artwork-fantastic-wii-107801
 

Anth0ny

Member
Oh hey guys!
Finally got my account activated! Probably for the better considering how E3 went.. I think I helped a bit in over-hyping it.. sorry for that. We had quite fun leading up to it though!


I will never listen to that song again.

Third party games at there Fall Conference that I wish/hope is announced...

Resident Evil 6
Lost Planet 3
DmC: Devil May Cry
Devil's Third
Tomb Raider
BioShock Infinite
Watch Dogs
Grand Theft Auto V
Star Trek 2013
Insane
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist
Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs
Final Fantasy Versus XIII

Yeah I am going to be disappointed lol.

I don't think it will get any of those games. Maybe Splinter Cell. I'm also expecting RE6... Gold edition. In Fall 2013.
 

StevieP

Banned
25.6 GB/s @ 1.6 GHz DDR3 is not a big enough improvement over from X360's 21.6 GB/s @ 1.4 GHz (700x2) GDDR3 specially considering this is a Nintendo platform (and it has to last for 5 or more years). And considering this generation was bandwidth starved. It's implementing a bottleneck that plagued this gen. And it's not just about the CPU being overfed, this is the RAM serving GPU bandwidth.

You've said 1.6 GHz DDR3 (and there's DDR3 @ 2.5 GHz so they could even go higher, as eccentric as Nintendo is about RAM), so why not the same solution that was used for X360? 2x1.6=3.2 GHz would effectively double it to 51.2 GB/s and wouldn't cost much more to implement.It's cheap, but this is a games console so going with 1066 MHz DDR3 or similar low end solutions would make no sense (even if it technically already beats X360's 700 MHz solution).

1600 MHz could be fine if it was dual channel 2x1 GB=3.2 GHz. 1600 MHz total RAM speed on the other hand... not so much when last gen was sitting at 1.4 GHz and it suffered bottlenecking for it. It's a bad tradeoff.

Now we're depending on the CPU speed, I believe Nintendo wouldn't let total RAM speed outset the CPU, so if it's 2.8 GHz then I bet RAM will be at most totaling 2.8 GHz itself; hampering bandwidth a little.Oh, I doubt it's GDDR5, but I also doubt it's 25.6 GB/s bandwidth; it's too low.

What if... Microsoft was using DDR3 in their current dev kits?
And what if their final console will be using DDR3/4 as well? (4 being slightly faster and more power efficient)


"Wait and see approach" = don't expect game. Standard Western 3rd party publisher response. It's empty.
 
Just as it was on Wii, "wait and see" is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you're not willing to make the initial investment in games that would prove that an audience for older-skewing core content exists on Wii U (assuming they sell), you're doing your part to ensure that an audience for such titles will never be cultivated on the platform.

Mind you, Nintendo itself is hardly blameless in that. I continue to think they made a very big mistake by not having a Western-oriented first-party core IP in the launch window, and that showing such a title to third parties would have resulted in at least some quantifiable improvement in their early support.
 

Stewox

Banned
Ugh. Looks like Aliens is a "test" game. We know how well that went on the Wii...

Did you ever really thought ACM was going to be some kind of a big deal, uprez and a few other things, that's about it, Gearbox is not known for pushing technology.

"Wait and see approach" = don't expect game. Standard Western 3rd party publisher response. It's empty.

Yeah, no surprise there. No creativity, no talent, just following suits.
 
Yep, western 3rd parties as feared seem to be treating the thing like the Wii outside of Ubisoft and even Ubisoft is testing the system before they devote resources to making a game like Sleeping Dogs. And they just said that 2K was the one watching which gives me almost no hope of there being a Bioshock Infinite Wii U or GTA5 Wii U in the works at the moment.
 

Meelow

Banned
Why are you guys being so negative?, Nintendo has to prove to them that third party's will sell well on a Nintendo system, if those games sell well we will get more third party support, don't start jumping to conclusions.
 
Why are you guys being so negative?, Nintendo has to prove to them that third party's will sell well on a Nintendo system, if those games sell well we will get more third party support, don't start jumping to conclusions.

Starting off the system with a bunch of test games that will result in more games if they do well sits terribly with me as a consumer. It's not my problem to try and make sure 3rd parties support the thing.

Edit: Speaking of which you can bet that bullshit Mass Effect 3 support is going to decide a lot of future EA Wii U support.
 

StevieP

Banned
Why are you guys being so negative?, Nintendo has to prove to them that third party's will sell well on a Nintendo system, if those games sell well we will get more third party support, don't start jumping to conclusions.

Actions speak louder than words, my friend. If you're expecting heavy western support on the Wii U I would suggest you invest in one of the other consoles instead (or, the best 'console' - the PC).

Empty yet positive statements are still empty.
 
2K Taking A "Wait And See" Approach

Get used to seeing this, kids.

The great chicken and egg of our time.

The only hope I can see is Japanese 3rd parties investing in Wii U heavily because with Sony's current financial status and lack of foresight and decision making regarding there hardware recently, it could easily be that Wii U is the only viable console in Japan.
 
Ugh. Looks like Aliens is a "test" game. We know how well that went on the Wii...

At least this time the test games are actually whole games that are competitive with what's on PS360 instead of watered down versions of the same franchise.

(Disclaimer: I own several of these "test games" and enjoyed them.)

Borderlands 2 is something I'll be purchasing on PC in all likelihood simply for technical reasons. A Wii U version would be worth the effort IMO though, he's right that inventory management on this would be useful.

Zombi U is up on the purchase list and I'm seriously considering Aliens CM on Wii U as well. Generally speaking PC is the platform of choice for these types of games IMO, controls are way better and the enhanced graphics certainly don't hurt either.
 

Meelow

Banned
Starting off the system with a bunch of test games that will result in more games if they do well sits terribly with me as a consumer. It's not my problem to try and make sure 3rd parties support the thing.

Edit: Speaking of which you can bet that bullshit Mass Effect 3 support is going to decide a lot of future EA Wii U support.

Well Nintendo had problems with third party support for 3 gens now, this is just a step for Nintendo to gain third party support, no offense but you guys are acting like Nintendo won't ever get third party support because they say "we will wait and see".
 

Nibel

Member
I already adjusted my expectations for this console: Nintendo will probably shine on this thing like never before - but I won't get any of the third-party shit that interests me.

For me, it's like the Wii all over again: my "first-party only" console, PS4/720 for the exclusives/online gaming and PC for every exclusive (lol) and ports.
 
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